Re: Origin of Ida, a woman's personal name. #general

Alexander Sharon

When we discuss Jewish names, we should limit ourselves to names that
have a predominantly Jewish origin, >from the Hebrew Bible, >from the
Hebrew language, >from the Talmud (but even here there are many non-
Jewish nonce names), or direct translations there>from (e.g. Belinfante
and Bonfils >from BenTov and ElemTov, Wolff or Hirsch >from Binyamin or
Naftali, Bondi or Guttentag >from YomTov), or specifically Jewish Yiddish
Why should we?

During Russian rule, and many of the Genners ancestors that have originated
from the Pale territory (this include Poland, Ukraine and Baltics) have
been specifically _forbidden_ to use Biblical names and an artificial name
like Movsha or Ovsey have been created by the Tsar administration. How can
we trace those names to The Bible or Talmud?

Birth records by kehila for my ancestors town Boryslaw in Eastern Galicia
show for 1878 such names as "Amalia, Arnold, Elka, Ernestine, Eugenia,
Genia, Helena, Mieczysalwa ....and so on.

I didn't know that Ida Kaminska was known by any other first name--and I
happened to be friendly in Israel with her niece. She did not call
herself Idalia professionally and the Enc Judaica, which goes into great
detail about each member of her extended theatrical family, uses only
the name Ida.
Of course I didn't claim that the name Ida is an American derivation of
Yetta--because it isn't. Again, a Yetta or a Yenta here or there may have
called herself Ida, just as she could have called herself Henrietta or
Buffy or Clementine
I happened to be also friendly with Ida Kaminska son - he resides in NY.

So, please, we should all be on guard not to mislead or be misled by
occasional occurrences. Just because a certain name correlation has
occurred once or twice, it does not establish a rule for genealogists or
scholars of names. Myron may have been a popular name in the first half
of the 20th century for American Jews named Meyer, and Selwyn for Zangwil
(and hence for Samuel), but that does not make them _Jewish_ names.
I am not refering to the americanized names.
What about the names given to the Jewish kids born to Polish or
Russian "not so very tradional families"in 19 and 20 century?

Michael Bernet,
New York
Alexander Sharon

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