Re: Using UK census data and indexes (indicies) #general


s_wiener@...
 

Hi, Genners,

I would agree with Barry about throughly looking at a
record, especially since Jamaica, Queens, New York
could have been the place of birth for both the
individuals he found. These records need to be
cross-referenced with the US census and other records
from NYC to see if that is the Jamaica meant.
However, 1807 was way before mandatory birth
registration started so collaboration will not be easy
to establish.

from internet searches, I learned that Jamaica, Queens
(4th Ward) was organized in 1656 or 1683. Since
Queens was not consolidated into one county or borough
or part of the City of New York until the end of the
19th century, it would not have been unusual for
someone born in one of the Wards of Queens to refer to
their place of birth as Jamaica or Flushing or
Newtown.

Even today, residents cite their neighborhood - not
their borough - as their home town. For example one
would find as a return address on mail as Briarwood,
NY or Elmhurst, NY not like their fellow NYers from
The Bronx, NY or Brooklyn, NY.

Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA
researching:
GOLEMBE, MACNITSKY, ROSENFELD, ROSENTHAL – Lubashov and Lakhva, Belarus
STEIER, ZWEIG - Sanok, Dobromil and Tyrawa Woloska,Poland [Austria]
BERNER - Krzywcze, Poland[Austria] RUBINGER, HOCHSTADT, WALLACH, PACHT, FESSLER,
KLIPPER, GRILL, SCHNAPP - Putila, Wiznitz, and Vatra Dornai,Bukovina
GEIST - Kutno, Poland WINDWER/WINDWEHR, REGENSTREIF, TEICHER, BITTER,
BLECHER, HEFTEL, KRAUTBACH, LEBENTHAL, LUCHS - Kolomyya, Galicia [Austria]
or Northern Bukovina
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"Barry Spinner" <bspinner@cogeco.ca> wrote on Tue, 30
Mar 2004

<A genner asked for help with lookup assistance in the
English census of 1871 RG12 ...

Name: Benjamine Alberga
Age in 1871: 64
Estimated birth year: 1807
Relation: Head (of family)
Gender: Male
Where born: United States of America
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiatical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London

One would certainly think that he was born in the USA
from this index information. However inspection of the
census page showed that, though faintly written, his
birth-place was stated as "Jamaica".

On the next census page, as the first entry, was his
niece, living at the same address. Sure enough, the
enumerator had recorded "Jamaica" as birth-place.

The lesson is look at the record, even when you have
the unequivocal index information...>

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