Re: First Jews in England--and Ireland #general


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In a message dated 7/18/2005 12:09:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tulse04-news@yahoo.co.uk (Nick Landau of London) cites:
The first Jewish families arrived in Britain perhaps with the
Phoenicians, far more than 2000 years ago, as Simon Goulden of the
United Synagogue writes here: Daf Hashavua 23/9/2000
<http://tinyurl.com/7ts5n>

Or else they surely came with the Roman conquest, but even if they did
arrive with William the conqueror as late as 1066, your expectation of
great genealogical resources is not very reasonable. ;-} " <<

The Jews of England were kicked out and only returned after Oliver
Cromwell invited them back. The oldest synagogue in England is
Sephardic, dating >from 1702, and is still very much in use today
despite, not the least, an IRA bomb. I understand that they hold very
good records going back 300 years. The oldest Ashkenazi synagogue from
this period is in Plymouth going back 250 years and I am sure they,
too, have some records.
snip

and responds with:

< The James Joyce Centre, Dublin publishes this article >from the Bloomsday
Centenary of the Irish Times about Jewish Dublin a hundred years ago.

< _http://www.jamesjoyce.ie/templates/text_contents.aspx?page_id=489_
(http://www.jamesjoyce.ie/templates/text_contents.aspx?page_id=489)

< Apparently when Leopold Bloom, the fictitious character of Ulysses, was born
in 1866 there were only a few hundred Jews in Dublin (see this article).>

==The thread was about the arrival of the first Jews in England--was it with
the Phoenicians, the Romans or the Norse in 1066 CE. I don't think the
arrival of Jews >from Litta in Ireland in the second half of the 19th century is
germane. Actually, there were Jews in Dublin in the early middle ages, and again
a significant Marrano community that set up a synagogue in 1660.

==On he other hand, that must have been quite a community. Isaac Herzog,
chief rabbi of Dublin was called in 1936 to become just the second chief rabbi
of Palestine -> Israel. Dublin Chief Rabbi Immanuel Jakobovits went on to
become chief rabbi of the British Empire, and. Robert Briscoe, a hero of the
Irish Revolution served as a member of the Irish parliament and later became
lord mayor of Dublin. Not bad for a community that never numbered more than
4000.

Michael Bernet, New York,

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