Re: RICHTER, WILDER and GOTTESMAN families in Austria #general
Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Janette Levey Frisch writes: <I fortunate to be able to find
information about my greatgrandparents on familysearch.org today. It's still lacking, but I've been so fortunate in finding other family information that I'm going to post this and give it a try. My great grandfather Abraham RICHTER was born in Austria. My father believes he was >from Vienna. His father's name was Beril and his mother's name was Male GOTTESMAN. He married Sadie WILDER in NYC on February 7, 1905. Sadie was also born in Austria, but the site doesn't say what city or town and nobody in my family seems to know. She had a sister Rose and another sister Tillie. Her father's name is listed as Schulym Gezel, and her mother's name is listed as Maly Bar..uhut.> This is the perennial problem: Austria-Galicia [pre WW1] vs Austria-Austria proper. I am absolutely certain the family came from Galicia but Abraham RICHTER may indeed have been born in Vienna, as many Galicians emigrated to this great metropolis. It would have been useful if, at all possible, we had been given a few more facts on this RICHTER family thought to be >from Vienna - ie did Abraham's parents also go to the USA or did they also possibly die in Vienna? How old was Abraham? I have guessed his dob >from the given facts. I have mentioned this before - the Vienna records are excellent and the vital records of the Isr. Kultusgemeinde are now available from the LDS - if Abraham was born in Vienna [say 1880?] his birth will be clearly registered. If his parents died there - we should be able to find their grave: This is one possibility - with a possible brother: Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 19 7 59 RICHTER Bernhard aged 62 dob buried on 23.05.1892 RICHTER Deborah aged 70 buried on 06.06.1899 RICHTER Oswald aged 59 buried on 12.11.1918 BTW there were also many Galician GOTTESMAN living in Vienna. I have studied a few of them. re BARE ..HUT this could be BARENHAUT or BARENHUT see: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/surnames/krakow.htm And if you search for BARENHUT + Galicia on jri-pl you get a real bonanza of records. And here is the jewel in the crown: WILDER Salomon - Getzel 1894 M 78 999 Krakow Hersch - Leib Scheindel SCHLOSSER BERNHUT Malka 1894 M 78 999 Krakow Nathan Róza czyli Reizla SZWARTZ But how could their daughter marry in 1905? We apparently have gone a generation or two further back to Kracow -but something is wrong with the data/dates! Celia Male [U.K.] Footnote: if you are interested in the Jews of Austria, Bohemia and Moravia [now the Czech Republic] please see http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ Galicia is not specifically dealt with by this SIG, but you may find links through us and Viennese records. MODERATOR NOTE: Galicia descendants will be interested in the Gesher Galicia ("Bridge to Galicia") Special Interest Group at http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/ |
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