Re: Supposed death on board ship coming to NY #general

Ira Leviton

Dear Cousins,

Rochelle Kaplan asked about finding out whether Philip Weinberg, a baby
who was about 6 months old, died en route to America aboard the
Noordam, which arrived at Ellis Island on May 23, 1905.

Death at sea can be a complicated issue. Of course Rochelle should
carefully check the ship manifest for additional information, including
the first and last pages. However, that might have only a simple
notation like "died at sea."

"Pronouncements" of deaths at sea are usually made by a doctor at
the ship's next port of call, so the N.Y.C. death vital records should
be checked for a death certificate. Keep in mind that there's a chance
that the ship may have stopped in Boston or elsewhere before New York -
these should be at one end of the manifest pages but the only difference
in these pages may be the name of the port written at the top.

Saul Issroff pointed out yesterday that if the ship was a British vessel,
a report made back across the Atlantic to English authorities as well.
I believe that at least for some of the time, this applied only to English
citizens, and not to citizens of other countries who were passing through
England on their way to America, even if they stayed in England for a

There are also some previous messages about this subject in the
Discussion Group's archives.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

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