Trying to make contact with the family of Rabbi Aryeh Carmi and his sister, Tzofia of Toronto, children of Rabbi Yosef Carmi (originally Brandwein) who trace back to Rabbi Shmelke Horowitz of Jerusalem (1860-1898 whose wife was a Biderman of the Lelov Dynasty) son of Sender Yitzchak Horowitz of Sadagora son of Rabbu Nach Pinchas Horowitz of Brody and then Safed.