FW: Numbering in 1840's Warsaw #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>

Les asked about the numbers next to every individual's name on the
Warsaw Records. These numbers are the house numbers.

One of the databases in the All Poland database
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/ is the Warszawa Home owners
list. This database was compiled by the Warszawa Research Group. It
presently contains the home owners lists for 1852, 1869 and 1870. There
is an 1830s list that they are currently working on. There is a good
explanation on how to use the homeowner's database which can be found at


For example:

a) I typed in on the ALL Poland database, under "enter text" the number

b) I then selected under the type of search, "Global Text Search"

c) Specified for the Geographical region Warszawa Gubernia.

d) When the results page came, I selected Warszawa home owner's list etc

e) The results were as follows

In 1852, plot number 2415 was owned by Julian BORENSZTADT while
in 1869 and 1870 it was owned by Franciszek SOKOLNICKI. The address in
1869/70 was Nowolpie 10.

Hadassah Lipsius
Warszawa Research Group

< Les Culank [mailto:les.culank@virgin.net]

While struggling to translate Warsaw civil marriage, birth, & death
certificates >from my GGP's etc, I am surprised to see that all of the
main participants, witnesses, & minister each had their own personal
number quoted, as some sort of residential number. These are phrased
in various ways, eg "pod liczba~ 2415 zamieskal~y".

Can anyone explain exactly what this was about? I tried JewishGen;
translation aids; Google; & JGSGB's Polish SIG. No luck.

Was this for example the 18-to-19 century ticket system to tax &
restrict Warsaw Jews? If so did it apply to individuals or families?
Or was it an address identification by numbered plots of land? Or

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