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Keidan SIG Digest for Saturday, February 20, 1999.

1. Astronauts
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Subject: Astronauts
From: "Monty Starr" <monty@...>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:42:01 -0000
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There are one or two amusing articles in the yizkor book but how about =
this?
At the top of page 76 in an article about sport in Keidan I translate
"The B-team comprised Yacov Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. Bein and =
others(by the way the son of Chaim Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who =
participated in the Apollo programme and was one of those that walked on =
the moon)."
By chance a few weeks after reading this the Jewish National Fund held a =
function here in Birmingham and they brought with them as an attraction =
the astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman who had been involved in the =
space walk to repair the Hubble telescope. I got into conversation with =
him and asked if he knew Alan Bean. He told me that Alan had great =
artistic talent and had become a professional artist and Jeffrey had =
commissioned him to do a painting. I said to him " would you be =
surprised to know that Alan's father came >from the same Lithuanian =
shtetl as my parents". Surprised, he said, I would be amazed!
He then asked me to send to him at Houston a copy of the article and =
details of the publishers, which I duly did. I set out below his =
response.
FROM: JEFFREY HOFFMAN
NASA-JSC-CB

I spoke today with Alan Bean. He tells me that his ancestors came >from =
Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong side of the war against Cromwell =
and was deported to New Hampshire as an indentured servant with a term =
of 7 years. On the ship's manifest, the "Mac" was dropped >from his name, =
and the family became Bean. After 1 year,he married the daughter of the =
owner of the farm, to whom he had been indentured. So instead of being a =
servant for 7 years he ended up inheriting the farm. Alan's father was =
Arnold Bean and grew up in New Hampshire. So perhaps the article you =
sent me was, indeed, a "Purim Spiel". In any case, it provided a nice =
excuse to talk to Alan Bean and learn the story of his family. Maybe you =
can pass this information on to somebody >from the Keidan society.

I did in fact send a fact send a fax to Kibbutz Beit Zera which has the =
book in its Keidan archive. I also replied to Hoffman:
Between the years 1600-1640 Calvinists in Scotland were persecuted and a =
number of them settled in Keidan so there might yet have "been" a =
Macbean in that town.

Monty Starr

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size=3D3><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT =
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"> in=20
the yizkor book but how about this?</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>At the top of page 76 in an article about sport in Keidan I=20
translate</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>&quot;The B-team comprised Yacov Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. =
Bein and=20
others(by the way the son of Chaim Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who=20
participated in the Apollo programme and was one of those that walked on =
the=20
moon).&quot;</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>By chance a few weeks after reading this the Jewish National =
Fund held a=20
function here in Birmingham and they brought with them as an attraction =
the=20
astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman who had been involved in the space =
walk to=20
repair the Hubble telescope. I got into conversation with him and asked =
if he=20
knew Alan Bean. He told me that Alan had great artistic talent and had =
become a=20
professional artist and Jeffrey had commissioned him to do a painting. I =
said to=20
him &quot; would you be surprised to know that Alan's father came >from =
the same=20
Lithuanian shtetl as my parents&quot;. Surprised, he said, I would be=20
amazed!</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>He then asked me to send to him at Houston a copy of the =
article and=20
details of the publishers, which I duly did. I set out below his=20
response.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>FROM: JEFFREY HOFFMAN</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>NASA-JSC-CB</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>I spoke today with Alan Bean. He tells me that his ancestors =
came from=20
Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong side of the war against Cromwell =
and was=20
deported to New Hampshire as an indentured servant with a term of 7 =
years. On=20
the ship's manifest, the &quot;Mac&quot; was dropped >from his name, and =
the=20
family became Bean. After 1 year,he married the daughter of the owner of =
the=20
farm, to whom he had been indentured. So instead of being a servant for =
7 years=20
he ended up inheriting the farm. Alan's father was Arnold Bean and grew =
up in=20
New Hampshire. So perhaps the article you sent me was, indeed, a =
&quot;Purim=20
Spiel&quot;. In any case, it provided a nice excuse to talk to Alan Bean =
and=20
learn the story of his family. Maybe you can pass this information on to =

somebody >from the Keidan society.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>I did in fact send a fact send a fax to Kibbutz Beit Zera which =
has the=20
book in its Keidan archive. I also replied to =
Hoffman:</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3>Between the years 1600-1640 Calvinists in Scotland were =
persecuted and a=20
number of them settled in Keidan so there might yet have =
&quot;been&quot; a=20
Macbean in that town.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D3>Monty=20
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Subject: Re: Astronauts
From: "A.W.Cassel" <awcassel@...>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:39:26 -0500
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Monty:

You've cleared up a mystery. I obtained a translation of that sport =
article a few months back, and was equally intrigued about the Alan Bean =
connection. I tried for days to find some biographical material on Bean, =
but couldn't find anything that definitively traced his ancestry. I even =
asked Paula Baker, one of our Keidan members who lives Houston (her =
grandfather was B.G. Richards, the journalist and Jewish activist who =
became famous as "Keidansky") to try and contact Bean directly. Now we =
know it was an error, although it makes you wonder how the myth =
started...

By the way, if you're interested in translating more Yizkor Book =
articles, it would be of great interest to the group, I'm sure. I've =
been working with a splendid fellow in Israel, Chaim Charutz, who has =
translated a dozen or so of the pieces gratis; however, there's lots =
more to be done. We could put them up on the Keidan web site, or just =
distribute them to the group ...=20

Be well.

Andy=20

=20

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From: Monty Starr <monty@...>
To: Keidan SIG <keidan@...>
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Astronauts

There are one or two amusing articles in the yizkor book but how =
about this?
At the top of page 76 in an article about sport in Keidan I =
translate
"The B-team comprised Yacov Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. Bein and =
others(by the way the son of Chaim Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who =
participated in the Apollo programme and was one of those that walked on =
the moon)."
By chance a few weeks after reading this the Jewish National Fund =
held a function here in Birmingham and they brought with them as an =
attraction the astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman who had been involved =
in the space walk to repair the Hubble telescope. I got into =
conversation with him and asked if he knew Alan Bean. He told me that =
Alan had great artistic talent and had become a professional artist and =
Jeffrey had commissioned him to do a painting. I said to him " would you =
be surprised to know that Alan's father came >from the same Lithuanian =
shtetl as my parents". Surprised, he said, I would be amazed!
He then asked me to send to him at Houston a copy of the article and =
details of the publishers, which I duly did. I set out below his =
response.
FROM: JEFFREY HOFFMAN
NASA-JSC-CB
=20
I spoke today with Alan Bean. He tells me that his ancestors came =
from Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong side of the war against =
Cromwell and was deported to New Hampshire as an indentured servant with =
a term of 7 years. On the ship's manifest, the "Mac" was dropped >from =
his name, and the family became Bean. After 1 year,he married the =
daughter of the owner of the farm, to whom he had been indentured. So =
instead of being a servant for 7 years he ended up inheriting the farm. =
Alan's father was Arnold Bean and grew up in New Hampshire. So perhaps =
the article you sent me was, indeed, a "Purim Spiel". In any case, it =
provided a nice excuse to talk to Alan Bean and learn the story of his =
family. Maybe you can pass this information on to somebody >from the =
Keidan society.
=20
I did in fact send a fact send a fax to Kibbutz Beit Zera which has =
the book in its Keidan archive. I also replied to Hoffman:
Between the years 1600-1640 Calvinists in Scotland were persecuted =
and a number of them settled in Keidan so there might yet have "been" a =
Macbean in that town.
=20
Monty Starr

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Monty:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You've cleared up a mystery. I obtained =
a=20
translation of that sport article a few months back, and was equally =
intrigued=20
about the Alan Bean connection. I tried for days to find some =
biographical=20
material on Bean, but couldn't find anything that definitively traced =
his=20
ancestry. I even asked Paula Baker, one of our Keidan members who lives =
Houston=20
(her grandfather was B.G. Richards, the journalist and Jewish activist =
who=20
became famous as &quot;Keidansky&quot;) to try and contact Bean =
directly. Now we=20
know it was an error, although it makes you wonder how the myth=20
started...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the way, if you're interested in =
translating=20
more Yizkor Book&nbsp; articles, it would be of great interest to the =
group, I'm=20
sure. I've been working with a splendid fellow in Israel, Chaim Charutz, =
who has=20
translated a dozen or so of the pieces gratis; however, there's lots =
more to be=20
done.&nbsp; We could put them up on the Keidan web site, or just =
distribute them=20
to the group ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Be well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Monty Starr &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:monty@...">monty@...=
</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
</B>Keidan SIG &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:keidan@...">keidan@...</A>=
&gt;<BR><B>Date:=20
</B>Saturday, February 20, 1999 7:43 AM<BR><B>Subject:=20
</B>Astronauts<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px"></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>There are one or two amusing=20
articles</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#000000=20
face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"> in the yizkor =
book but how=20
about this?</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>At the top of page 76 in an =
article about=20
sport in Keidan I translate</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>&quot;The B-team comprised =
Yacov=20
Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. Bein and others(by the way the son of =
Chaim=20
Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who participated in the Apollo =
programme and=20
was one of those that walked on the =
moon).&quot;</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>By chance a few weeks after =
reading this=20
the Jewish National Fund held a function here in Birmingham and they =
brought=20
with them as an attraction the astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman =
who had=20
been involved in the space walk to repair the Hubble telescope. I =
got into=20
conversation with him and asked if he knew Alan Bean. He told me =
that Alan=20
had great artistic talent and had become a professional artist and =
Jeffrey=20
had commissioned him to do a painting. I said to him &quot; would =
you be=20
surprised to know that Alan's father came >from the same Lithuanian =
shtetl as=20
my parents&quot;. Surprised, he said, I would be=20
amazed!</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>He then asked me to send to =
him at Houston=20
a copy of the article and details of the publishers, which I duly =
did. I set=20
out below his response.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>FROM: JEFFREY=20
HOFFMAN</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT =
size=3D3>NASA-JSC-CB</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>I spoke today with Alan Bean. =
He tells me=20
that his ancestors came >from Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong =
side of=20
the war against Cromwell and was deported to New Hampshire as an =
indentured=20
servant with a term of 7 years. On the ship's manifest, the =
&quot;Mac&quot;=20
was dropped >from his name, and the family became Bean. After 1 =
year,he=20
married the daughter of the owner of the farm, to whom he had been=20
indentured. So instead of being a servant for 7 years he ended up =
inheriting=20
the farm. Alan's father was Arnold Bean and grew up in New =
Hampshire. So=20
perhaps the article you sent me was, indeed, a &quot;Purim =
Spiel&quot;. In=20
any case, it provided a nice excuse to talk to Alan Bean and learn =
the story=20
of his family. Maybe you can pass this information on to somebody =
from the=20
Keidan society.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>I did in fact send a fact send =
a fax to=20
Kibbutz Beit Zera which has the book in its Keidan archive. I also =
replied=20
to Hoffman:</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>Between the years 1600-1640 =
Calvinists in=20
Scotland were persecuted and a number of them settled in Keidan so =
there=20
might yet have &quot;been&quot; a Macbean in that=20
town.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D3>Monty=20
Starr</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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