German SIG #Germany Re: Allan Hirsh & a Stuttgart Jewish Archives "Family Register" project #germany


I would like to add my comments regarding the photocopied Family Registers at
the Stuttgart Jewish Archives and the project proposal
first brought up by Allan Hirsh.

I wholeheartedly agree that these records are extremely valuable.
After searching for many years, I found the only records (which
were photocopies) for all of my maternal ancestors at the Jewish Archives
in Stuttgart. My family had lived for centuries in small villages in the
Wuerttemberg province of Southern Germany just north of Stuttgart.

I found records going back to the early 1700s. As far as I can recall,
the Jewish Stuttgart records covered Jews of the Baden and Wuerttemberg
provinces but may have covered some of Bavaria also.

The office is near the Stuttgart Hauptarchives but was staffed (in 1992) by
one elderly man. I had written to him a few years earlier without a response.
When I went to his office, he apologized and showd me the pile of requests
he had no time to answer. It was a good thing that I was able to go there in
person. The photocopies had been put into many notebooks organized by this
gentleman, I believe. He directed me to the notebooks I needed and then all
owed me time to make copies of family records. Normally he makes all the
photocopies himself.

Allan Hirsh had stated that "In Stuttgart are 60,000 birth death marriage
and family register sheets. They include I believe all of Wuerttenberg and
some of Baden and some of Bavaria. I believe this was a Jewish census taken
when last names were required. The records go back several generations.

They are photo copies of the original sheets which I understand were lost.
Some are hard to read and of course they are in German."

Allan mentioned that he has a complete copy of the list of these charts and
sent a copy of this list to the Leo Baeck Institute asking them if they would
be interested in obtaining these records, but Allan got no answer.

I do not know if the Stuttgart office can find the necessary manpower or if
Allan's cost projection of $7,000 is correct, but I agree that those records
should be carefully copied and made available to the family members. If the
Stuttgart Jewish archives closes, who knows what would happen to this precious

GerSig already has received pledges for funds >from several people to have
these records copied. I realize that our manpower is overburdened.
Since Allan= has the list of the charts at Stuttgart, he would be the best
person to spearhead this project. I would offer him some help although I am
still working and have only limited time.

To answer Roger Lustig question as to availability of these records
elsewhere: I never found any of these Stuttgart records at LBI or
on any LDS films. I went to the website Roger specified:
but did not find my family's data; there was nothing >from our area of Germany.

Several people have thus far shown their interest in these records. Some can
offer money; some can give time. Hopefully there are more such volunteers.

***** MODERATOR NOTE: As stated previously, the most important need is
for a qualified volunteer project coordinator who will form a
group to evaluate and lead such a project. Without this keystone
nothing can be done.

Reuven Mohr of Israel has 25 years of experience in reading German registers.
His expertise would be valuable since not everyone can decipher old German

Dottie Miller of San Antonio, Texas, is enthusiastic about digitizing and
publishing these records, and suggested that there must be at least 59 others

We must have people who will know which method is best: making photocopies
or recording these digitally. And perhaps we can even find someone
knowledgeable, experienced and willing to travel to Stuttgart after all
arrangements have been made with these archives.

Allan Hirsh has been very successful in his genealogical work. My question
is whether Allan would be willing to have everyone contacthim and keep track
of all of the responses to his suggestion. Once that is done, he will know
if there are enough volunteers, funds, etc. ( )

Ellen Kahn Homewood, IL

P.S.: Mrs. Cheryl Johnson of Durban, South Africa wrote that LDS states "Family
registers are more common in southern Germany, especially in Wuerttemberg and
Baden after 1808. Children are usually listed in chronological order. Names,
birth dates, marriage dates, and death dates may be listed. In some registers,
when a child married, the register gives a "see" reference and a page number
where that particular child appears as the head of a household. Some family
registers indicate whether the family moved to another village or emigrated
to another country. I wondered if Gersiggers were aware of this vital source of

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