German SIG #Germany Re: Was "Theis" ISRAEL, born 1610, Jewish? #germany
Roger Lustig
Jeffrey:
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It's very unlikely that Theis ISRAEL was Jewish. For one thing, most Jews in northern Europe didn't have a surname at all until around 1800. They used patronymics, i.e., Theis' father would have had the given name Israel, and his son would be Jakov [ben = son of] Theis. Among those who did, Lars Menk's _A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames_ does not record ISRAEL as having appeared anywhere before 1700. Mattityahu (Matthew) is a perfectly good Jewish given name, but there are probably a thousand Gentiles for every Jew with that name. Apollonia?? and Johann are as unlikely as it gets: Christian saints were not appropriate people for a Jew to name his children after, unless the name came directly >from the Old Testament. So, Yochanan, yes; Johann, no. And, yes, there are Gentiles named ISRAEL. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Point_Loma_Lighthouse#Robert_Israel for an example. Could Theis have been a convert? I suppose, but since he'd have to have taken a surname at conversion, why would he choose one that advertised the past he was trying to escape? A scan of the German on-line White Pages shows almost 600 private (non-commercial) entries for ISRAEL. Even with 100,000 Jews in Germany, 600 is far too many for all or even most to be Jewish. Roger Lustig?? Princeton, NJ USA?? research coordinator, GerSIG On 10/31/2019 Jeffrey Herrmann <jeffrey.herrmann@...> Wrote:
My 8th great grandfather, Mathiess " Theis " ISRAEL, (possibly also known
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