To all:

I was excited to see records that have recently been posted from
Narajow, my paternal grandmother's (Rose Kuhn Schildkraut)
hometown. (Kuhn: Kuehn, Keehn).

My grandmother was born in 1897 and was a daughter of Getzel Kuhn
and his second wife, Sarah Spiegel. (The first wife, Frimat, had died of
tuberculosis at age 26, after bearing several children.) I located my
great grandparents' marriage registration. It is dated March 1924,
when Getzel and Sarah were in their 50s and 60s and long after they
had had their children.

I have been told that Getzel was very pious and my belief is he was
certainly married, but probably in a Jewish ceremony, only, until
1924.

My question:

Were Jewish weddings considered illegal, illegitimate, unrecognized?
Were Jews prohibited >from registering these ceremonies? Were Jews
prohibited >from the civil ceremonies that would have legitimized their
unions and their children? Was this legitimization finally permitted?

Thank you.

Please reply to my private email: LindaSchildkraut@....

Sincerely,

Linda Schildkraut

Researching: SCHILDKRAUT (Bobrka, Bardejov, Kosice, Presov);
ENGLANDER (Bobrka, Bardejov, Kosice, Presov); LILLING (Bobrka,
Bardejov, Kosice, Presov); RIPIN (Russia, France): RIPINSKY (Russia,
France, US); RIPANS (US); HABACOOK (Bobrka)

MODERATOR NOTES:
- The record Linda found is one of over 800 Narajow vital records
that were recently added to the All Galicia Database
(http://search.geshergalicia.org).

- Many past messages on this list have dealt with the issue of civil
marriages in Galicia. To read them, search the JewishGen SIG
Archives http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop
for some of these terms: civil marriage - mother's maiden name -
registered - illegitimate. For example, Mark Halpern wrote in October
2003: "More likely than not, if a civil marriage was registered, it was
after the birth of some of the children. Why? Because the Austrian
government regulated and taxed civil marriages. Our ancestors
therefore ignored the regulations and married in a religious ceremony,
which was not then recognized by the Government. All subsequent
births were then considered illegitimate by the State. When parents or
children had a legal reason to legitimize the marriage or birth, then you
find a civil marriage registered and the birth record amended to show
that the birth was legitimized. The reasons were many but emigration
and inheritance were two of the reasons."