Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian Jewish Nobles---An Opposing View #hungary
Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
Peter A. Gergay wrote:
With all due respect to Dr. Hidas, other history books refute some of hisParticipation in the Revolution of 1848 served Hungarian Jewry as a
justification for assimilation. The majority of Hungarian Jews always
considered themselves Jewish Hungarians and not Hungarian Jews. The
Hungarian liberal elite used this fact, and the service of the Magyar
cause was a fact, to justify the grand alliance of Jewish business
and the Hungarian nobility. The Hungarians would have been a minority
within the Kingdom of Hungary without the Jews declaring themselves
"just a religion" and not a nationality contrary what the Croats,
Romanians, Slovaks, and Serb did.
Rather, it was the Great Compromise of 1967 and its aftermathBoth the modernization of Hungary, in which process the Jews played
an important role,
as well as the influx of Jews to Hungary began during the Age of
Reform, during the first part of the century. The Habsburg government
fined the Jewish community for participating in 1848 but otherwise it
was pro-business. >from 1867 Hungarian domestic policy was run >from
Budapest and not by Vienna.
Second, Dr. Hidas states that "It is a hopeless task to prove that JohnI agree. but their noble title had nothing to do with their
excellence. They were born geniuses and the environment only made
possible the realization of their talents.
In fact, that most of themI agree, that could have been a factor.
TheHow many to the went to Lutheran schools?
Hungarian schools designed o the German model in the 1860s. Usually
they were quite totalitarian in spirit. Independent spirit was seldom
encouraged. In the early 1920s the Numerus Clausus was passed in
Hungary; few Jews could go to university. Jewish students were beaten
up, anti-Semitism became state policy. That was the time when our
geniuses left Hungary to study abroad and became actually famous far
away >from Hungary.
Dr. Peter I. Hidas
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