My ancestor Jakob SELIGMANN of Ichenhausen married Gietl BERGMANN. One of
their children Klara SELIGMANN married Lazarus BERGMANN and she had 5
children. Some details of this family are given below:

1. Gitl Or Gietel BERGMANN (b.1780 d.1862-Ichenhausen)
sp: Jakob SELIGMANN (b.1775-Ichenhausen
d.1843-Ichenhausen)
|-2. Klara (Gluck) SELIGMANN (b.1807-Ichenhausen)
| sp: Lazarus BERGMANN (b.Dittenheim)
| |-3. Ludwig BERGMANN (d.Munich ?)
| | sp: Rosa ROSENFELS
| | sp: Rosa ROSENFELS
| |-3. Jette BERGMANN
| | sp: Salomon BACHARACH (b.Augsburg ?)
| | |-4. Max BACHARACH
| | | sp: Martha WEISS
| | |-4. Otto BACHARACH
| | | sp: Trude SP OF OTTO BACHARACH
(b.Schlesinger Liegnitz)
| | |-4. Josef BACHARACH
| | +-4. Peppi BACHARACH
| | sp: Jakob ROSENFELS (d.1906)
| | sp: UNKNOWN
| |-3. Fanny BERGMANN
| | sp: Nathan GERSTLE (b.1824-Augsburg ?)
| | |-4. Regine GERSTLE (b.1855)
| | | sp: Isidore LERCHENTHAL
| | |-4. Adolph GERSTLE (b.1854 d.1899)
| | | sp: Anna ULRICH
| | |-4. Babette GERSTLE (b.1856 d.1856)
| | +-4. Pauline GERSTLE (b.1857 d.1858)
| |-3. Regine BERGMANN
| | sp: Unknown ROSENFELS (b.Erlangen)
| | |-4. Bettina ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Albert FELDHEIM (b.1858-Bamberg
d.1930-Munich)
| | |-4. Jette ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Moritz GUTMANN (b.Augsburg)
| | |-4. Sofie ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Unknown BACHMANN (b.Munich)
| | |-4. Julius ROSENFELS (d.1906-Munich)
| | |-4. Mathilde ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Leopold REICHENBERGER (b.France ? (Houdville??))
| | |-4. Rosa ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Ludwig BERGMANN (d.Munich ?)
| | |-4. Max ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Elizabeth SP OF MAX ROSENFELS
| | |-4. Jakob ROSENFELS (d.1906)
| | | sp: Peppi BACHARACH
| | +-4. Frieda ROSENFELS
| | sp: Nathan SELIGMANN (b.1849 d.1909)
| +-3. Heinrich BERGMANN (d.Aliwal North SA)

So these are basic facts >from my family-tree.

What interests me is
1. Was Lazarus BERGMANN related by 'blood' to his
mother-in-law Gietl BERGMANN?

2. Does any one have any of the family above in their family tree? [I am
aware of, and possess a copy of the extensive Gerstle family tree prepared
some years ago by Karen Franklin]

3. Was Moritz GUTTMANN of Augsburg any relative of Getta GUTTMANN who
married Jacob SELIGMANN of Noerdlingen(1878-1943)?

I would also be interested in anything else about the people mentioned
above. Please reply to

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>