Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: The 1715 and other Hungarian censuses #hungary


Thank you for the interesting information...I have put some comments in

In a message dated 6/4/2005 3:23:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes:
It is of course very interesting to see this early census, but we should not

forget that much more extensive information on Hungarian Jewry during the
18th century is easily available. ONLINE????
I refer to the numerous Jewish censuses
generally called Conscriptio Judeorum which were conducted by the Royal
Hungarian authorities.
The censuses for 1725-28, 1735-38, 1743-48, 1752-54, 1768, 1770-75 have been
preserved in the handwritten original and are available >from the FHL on
They have also been published in print in the 18 volume set of Magyar Zsido
Okleveltar. This is easier to read since the handwriting in the filmed
documents is often difficult to make out. IS THIS ONLINE? WHERE?
Most of these censuses cover traditional Hungary, except Transylvania.
The amount of information contained in these censuses is extensive. In all
cases the head of household is named, his profession, often his assets, the
tax he was assessed, sometimes the name of the spouse, the number, age and
sex of children are given.
The 1735-38 census lists even the place where he comes >from and gives the
name of his former Lord protector. In theory this makes it possible to
pursue the ancestry of Hungarian Jews into the country where they came from.
We must not forget that practically all Hungarian Jews are immigrants, >from
either Moravia, Bohemia, Austria or Galicia and resided in the West near the

Austrian and Moravian border. The few Jews, most Sephardic, who lived under
Turks retreated together with the Turks after they were defeated by the
It is of course true that in most cases Jews did not have family names, but
I did for instance find a Salomon Wellisch in the Conscriptio Judeorum 1753
living in Rajka. Since this is my family's ancestral town, there is little
doubt that this is one of my ancestors, but there is no way to substantiate
There is some excellent research available on the whole background of
Hungarian Jewry.
Henry Wellisch

Thanks for this post,
Viviane Kluska
Canton, MI

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