In a message dated 2/21/2002 11:28:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<< I'd also like to ask if anyone has any proof, other than non-Jewish
sources, that the middle name being the fathers name was actually used
for any purpose other than identification.
==What other purposes do names have if not for identification
. . . if Avraham Yitzchak son of Yaakov was Avraham Yitzchak Yaakov for id
purposes, . . . what name appears on his Ketubah (marriage contract) or
grave stone? . . . Was he Avraham Yitzchak ben Yaakov, or Avraham
Yitzchak Yaakov ben Yaacov.
=="Avraham Yitzchak ben Yaakov."
==I just consulted a photograph I took of the tombstone in Frankfurt of
Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch. The names appears (in Hebrew) as "Moreynu-
heRav Shimshon ben Moreynu-heRav Raphael Hirsch." In essence, where the
father's name is tacked on to the son's, this "full" name is simply the
person's Hebrew name with the "ben" (son of) ommited.
Michael Bernet, New York