JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Samuel? Simcha? Zalman? Shlomo? #general


Charles Mahler
 

<<< MBernett develops an interesting speculation about the ways names
start their own living.

In a message dated 3/15/2002 1:25:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wyzansky@... writes about his mother's uncle Samuel and on his
tombstone as Simcha but on his ketubah as Zalman.

It's easy how Simcha, in the USA, might chose a name Samuel, that is
Biblical, not exclusively Jewish, and less likely to be mispronounced
than his given name Simcha.

But Zalman? Yes, as the rabbi pointed out to Harold Wyzansky, the
person who ordered the tombstone may not have been familiar with his true
Hebrew name, and it is quite possible that he recalled simply that it
wasn't Samuel, but another Biblical name starting with a Shin.

<<<<So, why Zalman? Zalman is derived >from Shlomo = Solomon (the king)
= Salaman = Zalman. According to Beider, the Latin form of Salamanus for
a Jewish name dates back to Worms ca 1090, and Zalman (with the initial
Zayin) was first recorded in Hebrew in South Germany, as early as 1298.
In many communities Zalman remained simply a kinnuy associated with
Shlomo, i.e. Shlomo-Zalman, but in Eastern Europe especially, it took on
an independent existence, and was often coupled with the name Shne'or.
Shneor-Zalman of Lyady was the founder of Chabad (Lubovitsh) Hassidism,
and that name was borne by a number of his successors, including the
last Rebbe--and many of his followers and admirers. And Israel's third
president, originally known as Shneur-Zalman Rubashov took the Hebrew
acronym of his name, SHaZaR as his "Israelized' surname.

It is possible that Mr. Wyzanski's ancestor originally had the name
Shlomo-Zalman. In the ketubah, there is much more flexibility in
designating the groom's name, and if he was popularly named Zalman, even
if his "sacred" name was Shlomo, that would be satisfactory. In a get
(bill of divorce), on the other hand, all names by which that person was
ever known would have to be recorded in the document. Fortunately, a
get does not demand mentioning a name that exists only on the tombstone
Michael Bernet, New York>>>>><<<

I would like to at that my late grandfather Zalmen Lichtman was also
known as Callel and Bezallel and he was borne in Sendischow not that far
from Przemysl. Leaving Galicia for Vienne he became Zalman and changed
again in Holland to Zallel or Callel but on official papers he be called
Bezallel.

Everything is possible with the changes of names, some times there is a
link and sometimes a person got rid >from a less pleasing name and choose
a more fitting one.

Good luck
Charles Mahler
Looking for MAHLER, MARGULIES, LICHTMAN,INTRATOR, POSER

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