JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hungarian Jewish Surnames #general
Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
Why this is, you ask? I don't think it is at all!
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I just spent a few minutes at JRI-Poland. Looked for the name KAMINSKI/KAMINSKY. A global search gives 646 records with an 'I', and 5 with a 'Y'. Ah, but almost all of those records are >from Congress Poland and the Pale (all but 4, in fact). >from 1867 onward, those records were kept in Cyrillic. (The 4 >from Galizia all end in 'I'.) So let's limit ourselves to records >from Congress Poland *before* 1867. 218 with an 'I', one (>from Kielce Gubernia) with a 'Y'. Similar story with WARSZAWSKI/Y. 1731 to 7. Bottom line: the name was spelled with an 'I' in Poland--when it was spelled with Roman characters at all! I think you're on the right track when you bring immigration into it: most of the Jewish immigrants >from Poland & parts east came after 1880, and had therefore not had their names written officially in Roman characters for at least 13 years (far longer, if ever, in the Pale). When they bought their tickets and boarded the ship--that's when the name was written out in the Roman alphabet. Where? Hamburg, as often as not... Now, -SKI names just *couldn't* be spelled -SKY in Polish, but some not-so-Polish names could be. Take LEWI/LEWY. Sure enough, JRI-Poland has 115 LEWYs... ...to go along with the 2,260 LEWIs. And plenty of those are pre-1867. (OK--so there weren't a lot of Polish Gentiles named LEVY *or* LEVI. But I think the point stands.) All in all, I'd say that the phenomenon you describe is limited to emigrants. Why didn't the -Y appear at the ends of the names of Polish Gentile emigrants so often? Probably because, even though the vital records were kept in Cyrillic for them too (after 1867), they were more likely to have used Roman characters in their daily lives, their native tongue being one that was written in the Roman alphabet. Oh, and they came later, almost all after 1900, which would have raised the likelihood of their being literate. Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ Judith Romney Wegner wrote: [snip]
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