Re: Stolpersteine for non-Jews ? #germany

David Seldner

Hello everyone,

This is not so easy to explain - it seems that the whole philosophy has
In the beginning they were only for people who were killed for being what
they were, so to speak. Mainly Jews, but also Gypsies and disabled or retarded
people. So, it has never been exclusively for Jews. But then it was broadened,
so that for Non-Jews having been murdered by the Nazis, a stone is set, too.

Mainly for people in the resistance or also for members of parliament that
were killed for having been communists or too far left.

Then the first cases occurred, where people were not murdered by the
Nazis, but "only" tortured and died later.

A few months ago I found out that a Stolperstein was set for my Grandmother,
who survived (they left Germany in 1940), On behalf of the descendants
I had been asked for my opinion concerning Stolpersteine for her parents
(who had indeed been murdered). I have never been a friend of
Stolpersteine, for many reasons, and wrote them that.

The result was that I was not asked anymore, not invited or even informed
and found out by coincidence that Stolpersteine were set for my
G-Grandparents and both daughters (who had both emigrated in time).
Even with wrong names and wrong dates. I wrote a letter to the initiator
and never got an answer.

A person involved there explained that the philosophy has changed
and now Stolpersteine are set for Jewish families that lived in the
area - no matter whether they survived or not.

I hope I could shed some light on this matter.

Wishing you all a Shana Tova umetuka, may the New Year be sweet
and bring much happiness and peace!

David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany,

Herbert Kaufmann, Bedford, NY wrote: "-------
I did not know that there are Stolpersteine commemorating non-Jews. Are
there any for other anti-Nazi Germans or for gay or Gypsy victims?"

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