JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Same person listed on two passenger manifests within ten days #general

A. E. Jordan

From: Yaakov Dovid seems incredibly improbable that there were two people with such exact
same stats, and in fact I can only find records of one such person, a Mendel
Berzhansky, shoemaker, son of Ezra, born 1871, >from Utien/Utena.

I wonder if anyone has run into something like this before and/or has any ideas.

I have a somewhat fanciful idea, that perhaps Mendel bought two different
tickets, and then someone else, perhaps his cousin's husband, my
gggrandfather Max Teitelbaum, travelled under his name.
There is a much simpler explanation .... Mendel missed the boat the first time.
Is his name crossed out on the first passenger list?

In all likelihood he failed to get to the port in time or he was ill when he
arrived at the embarkation port or something was not in order in the shipping
line did not let him board the first ship. However by the time the next
sailing was going everything was in order and he boarded the second ship.

Of course, I guess it is possible he came up with complex situation you are
suggesting of buying multiple tickets to share one with someone else but that
presents the question of where did he money for two tickets?

Remember most people arrived at the port with no identification other than
their word. Passports did not exist and many were in effect leaving their
countries without papers or even illegally. So unless there was a wanted
poster or something extremely abnormal about the person they passed through as
long as they seemed healthy and strong and had sufficient money in their pocket.

Remember the US authorities wanted to know that the person was healthy and had
some place to go when they arrived. They required a small amount of money as
well so the person was not indigent and walking the streets. For the shipping
lines it was important to ensure the person would meet the basic tests because
if they were detained on Ellis Island and sent back it was at the shipping
line's expense. It was the shipping lines responsibility if the person was
rejected to get the person back to their point of embarkation.

Allan Jordan

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