JRI Poland #Poland Re: Vital records Inquiry... #poland

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>

Dear Zev:

In my experience with JRI-Poland coordinating the indexing of records >from
the AGAD Archive (Galician records) and the Bialystok Archive (records >from
the Russian/Congress Poland and the Pale of Settlement), the answer is that
it depends on the where the record was recorded, when it was recorded, and
possibly who was the registrar.

In Galician records, 1877 is an important date. Starting in that year, the
names of the mother's parents were required, but the names of the father's
parents were not. In the Bialystok records (Russian Pale of Settlement),
names of the parents were not required but the mother's and father's
patronymic (father's given name) was usually provided. For Russian/Congress
Poland, the names of parents were not required, but many times the
patronymic was recorded.

JRI-Poland does provide some help with examples of records >from Galicia and
Russian/Congress Poland. >from our homepage www.jri-poland.org click on
"Tips / Other Links" under "Learn." You will find aids by clicking "A
Translation Guide to 19th-Century Polish-Language Civil-Registration
Documents" and "A Guide to Headings of 19th Century Galician Jewish Vital
Record Forms."

An example of a Pale of Settlement birth record can be found at

Mark Halpern

----- Original Message -----

Could someone please answer a question that has been baffling me?
I noticed in the Jewish Records Indexed archives that some of the
birth records include not only the names of the parents, but the
paternal and maternal grandfathers... Is this generally the case,
or is it a more common practice after a particular period in
maintaining vital records?

I am inquiring only, in part, because I am hoping to trace my family
back another generation. With regards to some of my ancestors,
death certificates were unavailable or failed to divulge the
parents of the deceased...

Thank you in advance.
Zev Scarson

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