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<I made a break through in finding information a few weeks ago but now I have hit a brick wall and I am hoping someone can help. I found my maternal grandfather's Petition for Naturalization papers quite by accident. I was searching for him using the name I thought he came as-Clement Eisen. I found him under Karl Singer and in parenthesis it said Clement Eisen. These papers gave me lots of information I didn't have before. He came in under the name Klaum zinger. Klaum makes sense because his Hebrew name was Kalman.
Zinger -well there is a family story behind it. He had eye trouble and was going to be turned away. So his in laws, Rav Israel and Chasie Zinger said he was their son.This story is confirmed by the fact that the census information was under the name Singer and also his 3 oldest kids birth certificate are under Singer not Eisen. He became a citizen between 1930-1932 when my mom was born. The naturalization papers state he was born in Ealtsaw, Russa May 10,1900. The passenger list state he was born in Jaltouskow Russia. I can't find either town. Is it possible they are the same place-just different spellings?>
Possible. I believe there is a gazeteer at the JewishGen website. You might re-check the immigration manifest. In earlier years, it did not ask where the person was born, but the city of his last residence before coming to the U.S.
<Clement and my grandmother Leah Zinger were married in Ocnitis Rumania on April 15,1922. Is it possible to get marriage information >from Rumania?>
If the records have survived and if they have been microfilmed by the Mormons. The initial problem you have is that there is generally a 100-year period during which vital records are only available to direct descendants. So if the records exist and have not been microfilmed, you may need to prove that your gf is dead and that you are a direct descendant to get the record.
<How my grandmother and her parents got to Rumania is a mystery. They were >from Kaminetz Podski. I would assume the Russian Revolution had something to do with it and Kaminetz was near the border with Rumania.>
<Clement was going to Abram Zinger in Phila-this is my Grandmother's brother.>
<Now here is the real puzzle.
<The papers state he arrived on the Orduna on Sept 11 1922. Family stories say that he traveled with my Grandmother and her parents as I said before. My grandmother was pregnant with my Uncle who was born in Jan 1923. She told my mother she had terrible morning sickness made worse by sea sickness. But I can't find her or my great grand parents on the ship manifest.
My Grandfather is listed as single and traveling alone which simply doesn't make sense.>
<Could they have traveled under a different name? But than the family story doesn't make sense.>
Not sure the family story makes sense anyway. If he had a contagious eye disease, whether he was reb Singer's son or son-in-law should not have made any difference.
<The only mention of my Grandmother Leah Zinger/Singer/Eisen I can find is in the 1930 census. That census states they were both born in Germany which is false. I can't find her naturalization or any other papers.>
In what year does the 1930 census say she arrived in the U.S. What does it say her citizenship status is?
Surprising that someone of that age would never have been naturalized. Many women were induced to naturalize either by the red scare of the 1930s, by WW2, or by McCarthy.
<So, what do I do next? How do I find her and my Great grand parents? They settled in Phila and my Grandfather had a machine shop and junkyard. My Great grand father Rav Israel Singer was the Shamas for the Tolner Rebbe in south Phila. He had 5 sons but no one is in touch with the children of those sons. Any ideas would be helpful-no one in the family seems to know anything. >
You might look for Rav Singer's naturalization papers to see what they say about the ship of his arrival in the U.S.
<Another general question. I can't find Petitions for Citizenship for many members of my family. Are they not on the web in general?>
It is a mixed bag. Some indices to naturalization papers are on the web; most naturalization papers are not. Familysearch.org has an index to petitions for naturalization in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania to 1952 at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1937344. They also have the documents themselves, but only until 1931, at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1913395. If you find a petition number that interests you, you can ask NARA Mid-Atlantic at 9th & Chestnut in Philadelphia to send you a photocopy of the record for a fee.
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