Re: Given Name Discrepancies


first of all, you haven't provided the time or place, and that can make a large difference. also, keep in mind that there's no rule that secular names and jewish names must correspond. that might have been the case in poland, where jews used their jewish names and adapted them for secular purposes, or in america, where they seemed to try to use the same first letter. but in hungary, for instance, they often had quite different secular and jewish names, partly because names like attila and zoltan became popular, but even for perfectly good biblical names, just because.

....... tom klein, toronto

ps. my guesses for yukel are: either a misreading of yudel, a variant of yankel, or a diminutive of yekutiel.

On the death cert of a gg Uncle of mine, his father's last name is listed as Max, and indeed, the name of his youngest son was Max. On his gravestone, however, his father's name was listed as Yehoshua. I've never heard of "Max" being a substitute for "Yehoshua" (and the Given Names database seems to be down now.) Has anyone seen something like this before? Also, one of his brothers -- whose gravestone also says his father's name was Yehoshua -- lists his father's name as "Jacob." Since I'm tentatively linking both brothers to an ancestor from Shargorod named "Yukel," this might make sense. I'm assuming "Yukel" is short for "Yaakov," though I'm wondering if it might be short for "Yehoshua" or "Yaakov Yehoshua." Though I find "Yudel" and "Yankle" on various name lists, I don't find "Yukel" and am curious if anyone is familiar with it and know with certainty what name it's derived from.

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