Re: Unable to find names on passenger lists #names


Joel Weintraub
 

Hi Joel.  I'm going to assume your ancestor came through Ellis Island in your post.  You might be making an assumption and depriving yourself of some passenger information on the manifest. You needed to do one more step after finding them on the Hamburg list (and the name of their ship and when they left that port and where they were going).  Did the "park service team" actually look at the manifest of that ship?  If you were told it was "missing" pages, there is another explanation for "missing" information on Ellis Island manifests...  When the ship manifests were filmed in 1943 or 1944 from Ellis Island, the Immigration Service estimated that about 5 percent of the sheets were torn or crumpled or otherwise damaged.  Most of the damage was to the lower left hand side where the pages were turned.  The lower left side would include the name column, but the rest of the line could still be intact, and have a lot more information than what the Hamburg list would show.  It is true the Hamburg list does not show you the page/line number on the U.S. manifest so you would have to search through the ship manifest pointed to by the Hamburg list.  If your ship came into the U.S. from 1906 on, the names of all the passengers and their page/line numbers can often be found on the Ship Book indexes, which will point you to a ripped nameless part of a page.  Also the WPA cards might also have passenger information including ship name, and page/line numbers for a passenger. From a small sample I've found that most manifest damage happened after WWII started when there was a rush to citizenship and pressure on the ship manifests for citizenship searches.  The WPA cards done just before the filming years often have much more information than the actual filmed manifest with their degraded pages.
Joel Weintraub
Dana Point, CA

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