Re: Moravian KAUNITZ family #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>

Karen Cecilio of Akron, Ohio tells us that she is researching her husband's
KAUNITZ line. Most of the research takes her back to Western Hungary/Slovakia,
mostly Trencsin and Nyitra Megye (counties). The family seems to have arrived
there in the very late 1780s. It is her theory that the family originated in
Moravia, >from the estates of the Counts von Kaunitz. The famous Wenzel Anton
Kaunitz, was chancellor and foreign minister to the Habsburgs, Maria Theresa,
Joseph II & Leopold II.

Karen believes this line of Jewish KAUNITZ may have left Moravia because of
the Familianten laws, and travelled, as many did, to Hungary, taking the name
KAUNITZ as that is where they may have originated. Karen has found very little
information about the Jews who lived in the town of Dolni Kounice [Kanitz] or
on the Kaunitz estates .....

This is a strange coincidence as I have just been investigating the Jews >from
Kanitz, 18 km SW of Brunn/Brno, Moravia and the migration of Jews >from Moravia
to Hungary. This I should stress, was started only yesterday >from the comfort
of my swivel chair.

I have not yet ascertained if Kanitz was indeed part of the Kaunitz estates
which were centred in Austerlitz [Slavkov], Moravia, where Anton Kaunitz is
buried and not in Kanitz: [German] [excellent: in French]

We all know by now, that up to 80 percent of the Hungarian Jews originated
from Bohemia and Moravia as a result of the Familianten Laws enacted in 1726.
We might expect the largest exodus of sons without a Familianten licence to
have taken place >from 1750 onwards, when the children living in 1726, and
babies born then and later, were of marriageable age.

What evidence do we have of specific families of Moravian origin ending up
in Hungary? Omri Arnon [Israel] is also on the same quest re his REINITZ
family >from Nagykanizsa and maybe also Budapest, Vienna and Kis-marton. His
evidence on Moravian roots are based on family history and studies of the
name's origin, but he has not a single piece of documentary evidence which
connects the REINITZ family to Moravia. [I have his permission to quote].

Firstly, I have found not a single KAUNITZ in the 1793 Jewish census of Bohemia
[Prague excluded]. Most of the Holocaust victims of that name listed on Yad
Vashem, all of whom we remember here today, are >from Hungary or Vienna - and
even the latter have Hungarian first names. There are two victims >from Bosnia.
Not one comes >from Bohemia or Moravia.

I have the name-change list of Kanitz, Moravia >from 1787/1788 after the
Toleranz Patent came into force and there is not a single KAUNITZ {or
REINITZ} amongst them. So if they came >from there after these dates, they
would have taken the name on arrival in Hungary in a further name change.
If indeed they came >from Kanitz, they must have left well before 1787.

I have found a very interesting website relating to the village of Gyonk
is located in Tolna county in South-Western Hungary. Here it clearly states
that some of the early Jewish families were of Moravian origin. Sadly again,
there are no KAUNITZ {or REINITZ} amongst the names but there is a fascinating
*name-change* and *conscription* list too. The genealogical links between
our two SIGs - Austria-Czech and Hungarian are too close for us to ignore
this data - see: and

There may be a much more mundane explanation for the name KAUNITZ. Jews
called KOHN were well-known for disguising this name and many names starting
with *K* were in fact KOHN originally - including KARDOS, KARY, KELLER,
KOHN to KAUNITZ would be one small step for a lateral-thinking Moravian Jew,
with a sense of humour.

I suspect [no proof!] that the authorities did not look too kindly on a
poor peddler asking for the name KAUNITZ in 1787, hence the rarity of the
name. The name still exist today in the Jewish community of Sarajevo.

Life on the Kaunitz estates in Moravia must have been very similar to the
accounts I have given on Bohemian Jews over the past week or two [see
Schutzjuden postings].

In Part 2, I will discuss the Jews of Kanitz, Moravia.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: References to Count Kaunitz and the wider family: please surf the
internet for biographies, his correspondence etc. Some sketches: [in German]

You will note in the latter reference, the relationship between the Kaunitz,
Dietrichstein and Liechtenstein families. The Dietrichtsteins were the
Schutzherren of Nikolsburg and owned many other vast estates in Bohemia and
Moravia, as did the Lichtensteins.

My particular interest is the marriage between a Count Sporck [Schutzherr of
Grossbock, Koniggratzer Kreis] and a Kaunitz. There will be another posting
about this.

Like Bohemian and Moravian Jewish genealogy, we can see that these Schutzherren
and their estates were all genealogically intertwined.

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