Re: FamilySearch Christening records in 1870's New York #usa #general


Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

Phil,  
I suspect that it is just the way the info was transcribed and categorized.  It appears that Rebeke’s birth record was recorded in at least 2 places.   Note that one transcription included the certificate # while another one, using the same film, did not.   Also, I do not think it was usual to baptize an infant on the day of birth, but I’m not sure about that.

If you search for   rebeke wiener b 1870 in ny   these 3 records come up:   All have the same event date,  29 July 1870, but only one is is in a record set which includes christenings.  

   Microfilm #             database                                                             birth cert #
1. 1,322,029       https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HQB6-NBZM      not given

2   1,322,029      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27BZ-RLR :        52185

3   1,315,318      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27YF-RR8           not given


1st record.

Record Collection:
Document Information:
Reference ID 52185 
GS Film Number 1322029
Digital Folder Number 004193038 
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C59461-2
System Origin VR 
Record Number 12707191 
"New York Births and Christenings, 1640-1962", database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HQB6-NBZM : 21 January 2020), Rebeke Wiener, .


2nd record:  
  
"New York, New York City Births, 1846-1909," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27BZ-RLR : 11 Feb 2018), Rebeke Wiener, 29 Jul 1870; citing Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, reference cn 52185 New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,322,029.


3rd record: 
Record Collection:
Document Information:
Reference ID v 21 p 316 
GS Film Number 1315318
"New York, New York City Births, 1846-1909," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27YF-RR8 : 11 February 2018), Rebecca Weiner, 29 Jul 1870; citing Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, reference v 21 p 316 New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,315,318.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

On Jul 20, 2020, at 6:52 AM, Phil Karlin <philk@...> wrote:
I've recently come across christenings records for Jewish relatives on FamilySearch. There are several siblings for whom such records exists. They look identical to the birth records except for the label. Since Family History Centers are closed for Covid-19, I can't see the originals. Here's a link to one: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HQB6-NBZM?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=KJC2-V2Y

All I can glean from reading the database description is that it's a database constructed by FamilySearch, and it's not clear where they got the underlying info. It's possible that recent Hungarian Jewish immigrants with a desire to assimilate had it done for 6 daughters over a decade. (Four married Jews and had Jewish families, one did not, one didn't marry.) Or is it possible that it's just something that happened in NYC hospitals in the 1870's, with or without parental permission? Would it have happened in the hospital, or in a church?

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