Podwinecz, nr Mlada Boleslav/Jung Bunzlau, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>

Peter Bakos writes: "I do not believe that these
people came >from somewhere else [ie other than
Podwinecz] as there are none of them anywhere else, at
least so far.
If one accepts that most Jewish families had to adopt
"western" family names at around the time of the early
18th century, then I have to believe that these folks,
apparently a Jakob PODWINECZ [PODWINETZ], living
around 1725 took a name having to do with some
geographic connection. Maybe he just walked by ... and
liked the name better than what was on the list. The
fact there are only PODWINETZ near to where there is a
place called Podwinetz suggests that this is the

My reply can be taken as an *unexpected* Part III to
my *Schutzjuden* postings:

We know >from the census of 1793 that the PODWINETZ
family was living in Jung-Bunzlau - we also know that
Lobl PODWINETZ, a Schutzjude >from Jung-Bunzlau married
Eva KISCH >from Bohmische Leipa in 1774. Both appeared
to have family names by 1774.

Both Bohmische Leipa [Ceska Lipa] and Podwinecz [the
village with no Jews in 1793 - see footnote] are in
the Leitmeritzer Kreis whereas Jung-Bunzlau is in the
Bunzlauer Kreis. They are about 75 km apart.

What is entirely possible is that the PODWINETZ family
of Jung-Bunzlau originally came >from Bohmische Leipa
or indeed Podwinecz, hence Lobl married a home-town
girl - perhaps even a cousin or a distant relative?

If you study these naming conventions, you generally
find no WOTTITZ in Wottitz, no BISENZ in Bisenz, no
TREBITSCH in Trebitsch, no TEPLITZ in Teplitz, no
BUNZL in Jung-Bunzlau and no KOLIN in Kolin etc.

from my brief view of the 1783 census I have seen
things like Joseph der WOTTITZER { or *aus Wottitz*}
when living in Kolin and they are 100 km apart. If
Joseph never returned to Wottitz, the name probably
stuck. Hence, Jakob *aus Podwinecz* or der PODWINETZER
when he moved to Jung-Bunzlau in the late 1600s or
early 1700s, to distinguish him >from the many other
Jakobs living in Jung-Bunzlau.

The early Schutzherren {Lord of the Manor] of
Jung-Bunzlau were the Waldstein family [better known
as Wallenstein], who merit a chapter of their own; nb
their relationship to the Kaunitz family in this tree:


The Wallensteins also became the Schutzherren of
Bohmische Leipa and environs inc. Podwinecz in 1623
after confiscating the estates >from their previous
protestant owners. The first count Wallenstein [a
protestant convert to Catholicism] notoriously bought
at a *knock-down price*, sixty large estates, which
together make him Lord of the whole of North Eastern
Bohemia. Hence there could be ready interchangeability
between the domains of Jung-Bunzlau, Bohmische Leipa
and Podwinecz, if permission was granted by the
Wallenstein family. As there were no Jews in Podwinecz
in 1793, perhaps the Wallensteins and their successors
had decided well before then, to move all the Jews
from that village to others inc. the town of
Jung-Bunzlau? That was their prerogative.

I now know that all this data will probably have been
documented and preserved in the Lobkovitz/Lobkowicz
archives in Zitenice, Litomerice, I wrote about a few
days ago: http://tinyurl.com/chto8

The fact that the two communities are linked is
substantiated by a reference to an edict I have found:
The Jews of Bohmische Leipa, Jung-Bunzlau and Raudnitz
could not be elected as members of the self-governing
community within 6 years of their first marriage. This
was ordained by the Schutzherr, by then a Lobkovic,
and his advisors on 4 April 1680 - as found in a
document in the Zitenice Archives mentioned above
[Footnote 2].

Furhermore we found the following reference: [thank
you as always, Hanus Grab for the translation from

There was a very close relationship between the Jewish
communities of Bohmisch Leipa and Jung-Bunzlau. In
the second Prussian-Austrian war of 1744, the Austrian
troops abetted by the local Christians of Bohmisch
Leipa instigated a terrible pogrom on the 9th December
[4 Tewet]. When the troops retreated, the murdered and
maimed citizens >from Bohmisch Leipa were buried on the

21st December [21 Tewet] with the help of the
Community of Jung-Bunzlau.

When Wallenstein died in 1634, his only daughter
married a Kaunitz [>from Moravia] and this meant that
Bohmische Leipa fell into Kaunitz hands and thus
became closely linked to the other Kaunitz estates
including those at Austerlitz [Slavkov] in Moravia.

We need to study the Schutzherren, as well as the
Schutzjuden living on their estates, to understand
more clearly what was going on in Bohemia and Moravia,
especially in the 1600-1800s and how/why the families
moved >from one area to another.

Celia Male [U.K.]

1. Correction: Yesterday I wrote: One has to presume,
that in that era at least, there were no Jews living
there [Podwinecz]. This is confirmed by the fact that
the village is on the comprehensive list provided by
Felix Gundacker on our own website:


It should of course have read: that the village is
*not* on the comprehensive list etc

2. Hana Legnerova: Self-Government of Jewish
Communities in Nobility-Owned Towns in the Second Half
of the Seventeenth and Beginning of the Eighteenth
Centuries: Judaica Bohemiae (XXXIX/2003)

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