Hi Myra

I think this will interest you: not only was Ida still living in 1939, but her son Emil - by then in Shanghai - was still in touch with her!  See http://www.rosenblumcoins.com/35d, item 1237.

Emil married Cilli WINIG, daughter of Leo WINIG, in Döbling [Vienna] on 23 September 1923.  Source: https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=nfp&datum=19230923&query=%22berthold+herzl%22&ref=anno-search&seite=11 

Best wishes
Peter Lobbenberg, London, England
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