Re: What is a "Hold" of Land? #hungary

Randell B. Weiss <rbweiss@...>

On October 11, I wrote:
Can someone tell me in acres or hectares how big a farm is 120
Hungarian "hold" of land? And in your own opinion, did that make
them part-time farmers or full-time farmers?
I would like to thank all those who responded to my post: Gabor
Hirsch, Ujlaki Gyorgy, Janos Bogardi / Radix, and Georges Graner. Quoting
from some of their replies:
Gabor Hirsch wrote: "The Hungarian-English Dictionary >from Orszagh
Miklos defines a "hold" as 0.57 hectars or 1.42 English acres. [So120
hold is about 170 acres.] As the agricultural machines were in that
time practically non-existent, I would imagine that they were full time
[farmers], or even had employes to work the land. Poor peasants had
sometimes 10 or even less hold to live on."

Gyuri Ujlaki added: "I would think that Jews usually had some side
income >from shop, milk farm, palinka [fruit brandy] making, etc."

But I have one question [for Gyuri]: In other parts of Europe like
Poland, Jews who sold liquor also made it. Is it possible that the
Koller's made liquor for sale?
"Most probably yes! In the times of old, fruit harvest tended to happen
in a very short time interval, so then the price for fruits fell. I would
guess that then Jews bought fruit for cheap (otherwise it would have
been left to rot under the tree), then store the over-ripened fruit in big
barrels, until it became a smelly mess (called cefre-pronounced tzefreh).
Than they would used it to boil in special container made of copper,
which has a spiral tube, at the end of which palinka--fruit vodka--already
distilled came out. For a long time making liquer and selling it was a
monopoly of the local landlord, who sold or rented this to the local Jews.
Today palinka is still made home style in many places, although it is a
state monopoly. (Think of bootleg [booze] made in USA during

So this puts a new spin on my research. My forebears weren't just
tavern keepers. One branch owned a large farm and possibly produced
liquor for distribution to taverns.

Thanks again,
Randy Weiss
Medford, Massachusetts

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