Re: Conscripto Judeorum #hungary

Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>

melody gross <> 1998.10.31. 07:11:56 +2h-kor irta:

Dear Meéody,

My answers might be of general interest, so let me post it to the whole group!

Thanks for your quick reply. I am searching Amsels of northeastern
Slovakia, but this personal work has been surpassed by my latest project,
studying the town Sztropko (Stropkov), Slovakia.

Therefore, I am interested especially in referencers ro Sztropko. Can you
help me out?

Does the preface refer to Sztropko at all?
No! The 1725-1748 conscriptions do not have Sztropko. In 1725-1728 in the
whole of Zemplen county there were 78 Jewish families in 58 settlements.

A report dated June 21 1768 >from Satoraljaujhely states, that the county could not
conscribe the Jews of Zemplen county, because they are continously changing
their addresses.

Are there Jews >from Sztropko in the conscription lists? I assume that the
conscriptions were for battles against the Poles, possibly the Turks, and
the Hungarians (against the Catholic Hapsburgs) Which of these would be
I think, that conscritions were for collecting taxes >from Jews: that's why the Govt.
had to know how many horses, cows, sheeps, etc. Jews had.

(Sztropko is in northeastern Slovakia on the Polish border.) Were
Jews actually conscripted then? I thought that Jozef II first conscripted
the Jews.
There were partial (not national) Jewish conscriptions as early, as the 1564
conscription of Kismarton (Eisenstadt). It was published in MZSO. vol.II, no.32.

Do you have access to conscription records of later years--1848? 1867?

No, besides the 1848 conscription of Rohoncz/Rechnitz, and Szentes/Mindszent.

I would be most grateful if you could direct me, or do a look-up for me, as

When you say "old names", you mean those before Jozef II's edict in 1787,
obviously. Do you mean that prior to that, Jews called themselves "son of"
in the local language, i.e. Moskovits, son of Mosko (Moshe)? I see in my
research that even after 1788, in the 1812 Census, some Jews of Sztropko
used this Slavic form, and not necessarily a German surname. Others did
use German names.
They are listed by old names. E.g. in Slavic speaking areas (East Hungary), name
and fathers's name plus -ovics: Abraham Herskovics, Volff Zelmanovics, Markus
In German speaking areas (W.Hungary): name and father's name: Lebl Mojses,
Wolfgangus Izrael, Salamon Michll. Sometimes occupation is given: Ebedt
Fleischhaker, Cain Schreiber, Tretsll Sneider, place of origin: Isaac Turkischer,
Hirsl Hollesan, Jommel Slezinger. Some have Hungarian surnames: Jacob
Kossuth (Vag Ujhel-Vagujhely), Abraham Voros, Slovak surnames: Wolff Vlcsek,
Abraham Viszoky, Hersl Midlac.

Would this mean that in that isolated part of the
country, German names were not strictly enforced?
German names were not required before the name order of 1787.

Fenyes Elek, Magyarorszah geographiai szotara. Vol. I-IV. Budapest 1851.
Reprint Budapest 1984.

Vol. IV. p. 163.: Sztropko, Slovak county town in Zemplen county. 1542 Roman
Catholics, 114 Greek Catholics, 10 Lutherans, 550Jews. There is a Catholic
church and a synagogue. It has large market. It has good meadows by Ondava
(river). It has forest and 1284 hold agricultural land. There is a castle, that has
been a target of Polish attacks.

Number of Jews in Sztropko:

Absolute number: As percentage of total population:

1840 1880 1910 1840 1880 1910

555 866 1141 22.7 43.3 44.1

The Borsod-Abauj-Zemplen Megyei Leveltar Satorlajaujhelyi Fiokleveltara
3980 Satorlajaujhely
Kossuth ter 5.
tel 36-41-21353 (looks like an old number.) has:

matrikula (birth, marriage, death) >from Sztropko and vicinity 1833-1874.

Best wishes,

Ujlaki Gyorgy
Budapest, Hungary

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