Re: * Magyarositas = Hungarization (a bit long) #hungary

Janos Bogardi / Radix <janos@...>

Hello listers,

Incidentally I am also working on making this book available for computer users.

Should any of you be interested, please contact me off-list.

All the best,

Janos Bogardi / Radix.


Subject: Re: * Magyarositas = Hungarization (a bit long)
From: tom klein <>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:23:28 -0500
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the book in question was published over 100 years ago, so i would assume that it is in the public domain by now. would it be feasible to convert it to a database and possibly make it available online? (that would solve the problem of cross-referencing.)

does anyone have the facilities to scan and ocr a microfilm? (assuming that the mormons' microfilm is reasonably legible.)

...... tom klein, toronto
See moderator's note below for further information.

Tom Venetianer <> wrote:


As for registers about name Hungarization, >snip>
Szazadunk Ne'vva'ltoztata'sai (this century's changes of names)
a book published by Viktor Hornyanszky in 1895
which contains thousands of surnames of people who "hungarized" their
names >from 1800 to 1893. This is a real jewel for the genealogist but

mod.- Jewishgen and H-sig, working together, have hired a researcher
based in Budapest to digitize this book and do the same for other
important documents related to Jewish family history. The Hornyanszky
book and the books by Fenyes (see H-sig archives -search for Fenyes) are
the first <snip>

moderator note2 and questions:

I wrote the following on my "Research Trip Report" date 9/27/2000:

"Finally, regarding the topic of name changes, in the Szechenyi Hungarian
National Library I found a book in the non-circulating book room titled
Szasadunk Nevvaltoztatasai 1800-1893, call number /1/171/40. It was
published in 1895 and is similar to the name change registration books
mentioned previously. This is a small format book of 253 pages and has a
brown cover. Two pages >from the book would fit on a letter sized page. The
size and number of pages would make this book amenable for photocopying."

IS THIS THE BOOK published by Viktor Hornyanszky, referred to above?
ALSO, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT there were semi-annual publications listing
names changes. How do these books fit into plans for distribution?: Will
the data in them be included as well?

As reported in my message of 9/27:

"...a soft cover large format book titled Kimutatas- Az 1910 evi I.
feleben engedelyezett nevvaltoztatasokrol (rough translation:
Announcement - for 1910 (part I) permission given to change family names)
his is an alphabetical listing with the following column headings
(followed by a sample listing) 1. Eredeti Vezeteknev (Adler, Samuel) 2.
Felvett uj vezeteknev (Balog)3. A csaladfo es gyermekeinek - subheading a.
polgari allasa (hentes which means butcher. b.lakhelye (Budapest) c.
szuletesi heye / eve (Szentpeter/1874 - this is birthplace and year of
birth) d. vallasa (izr.)4. trans.-registration number (171252). This file
had volumes 1 & 2 for 1910. There must be additional books such as these
for different years. I would think that these books could also be found in
Budapest libraries and archives. These books would be a valuable addition
to our research tools."

MY FINAL QUESTION HERE IS has the work of Agnes Varkany been published and
what does her research entail?

Quoting >from the same report:

"There is a well known archivist in Budapest by the name of Agnes Varkany
who is researching these books..."

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