Re: Keen to hear your opinion on it - was it the same person? #hungary
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Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
Dear Andras,
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In many cases Mozes was Mor and/or Moritz, Sara was Saly, Jakab was Ignacz in everyday life. The Hebrew name was used only in the synagogue. The initial letters are the same, but even that is not necessary, My father Moshe (born 1894) was Jeno", his brother David was Erno", another brother Menachem was Gyula. My grandfather Yehuda was Ignacz (the same emroidered monogram for both names, also for Ignacz and Jakab). I have two names in Hebrew: Yosef and Meir but in Hungarian only Jozsef. The same case might be in your Mayer. Shabbat Shalom ve-Chag Sameach Yosef Meir Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
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From: Andras Koltai [mailto:kolamcg@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:16 PM To: H-SIG Subject: [h-sig] Keen to hear your opinion on it - was it the same person? Dear HSiggers, I have just discovered a brother to my gg-grandfather in Zemplen county in the second half of the 19th century. The problem is that it may be two brothers - or is it the same person? I would be glad to hear your opinion on it. The family was called Hechtmann, which is a very rare name. There was only one single Hechtmann family living in Hungary in appr. 1850 and they were living in Vasarhely, Zemplen. (This way I very rarely find anything about this branch of my family, but when I do, it is surely related to my family.) Jakab Hechtmann had two sons I had known about. But there was a third one, too: According to the Vasarhely birth-, marriage- and death records Moses Hechtmann and Sara Scheindl had a son named Ignac Mayer in 1868, had another named Samuel in 1872. Then Moses Hechtmann died in 1873 aged 28. According to the Vasarhely census dated 1870, there was a Moritz Hechtmann living there (born in 1839). His wife was Sali Kornhauser and they had a son called Jakab, who was born in 1868. I just cannot decide whether Mor and Moses were the same person. The reasons why I think they were: 1) people having the Jewish name Moses were usually called in Moritz in official papers 2) there was only one Hechtmann family, there is no evidence whatsoever that TWO families called Hechtmann were living in Vasarhely paralelly 3) my gg-grandfather had a son called Mayer Jakab, too, 4) Mayer and Jakab were both born in 1868. The reasons why I think they were not: 1) their birthyears differ 2) their wives had different names 3) Mayer and Jakab are two different names, too. Could it be that Sara Scheindl was the Jewish name of Sali Kornhauser, Ignac Mayer was the Jewish name of Jakab and that the birthyears differ as they so often do in those old papers? I would be interested to hear you comments on my gg-grandfather and his difficult family. Thank you and kind regards, Andras Koltai Budapest
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