To Nava Shavua Tov,
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I am sorry that I cannot help you in your quest. It seems, however, that
reading yor letter I have detected a discrepancy in it.
At the beginning of your letter you write that Lipot DEUTSCHs wife was Kati,
at the end Lipot's wife was Sari CZEISZLER. Which one is it?
Best regards yehuda
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Subject: [h-sig] The DEUTSCH family >from TAB - ADAND-SIOFOK
First I would like to say that dealing with a very common family name like
DEUTSCH , I know my chances are slim, however I descided to give it a
In my Father's family not only the Jewish name repeats itself but the
General name does as well:
My gggf was LIPOT his son., My ggf was LAJOS, my gf was LIPOT and my
second name is LAJOS !!!!
The hebrew names repeating themselves are :YEHUDA, YOCHANAN, ELIEZER ( I
hope my English transcription is readable)
They used a combination my father is : YEHUDA YOCHANAN ben ( son of )
on my gf tumbstone we read ELIEZER YEHUDA ben YOCHANAN and you can
calculate this backwards.
what is the known data:
1. We have a copy of my ggf 's marrige certificate where his parents are
listed as DEUTSCH LIPOT and KATI
( no maiden name and I belive she probably was KATALIN or something ).
No dates for these two.
2. my ggf is LAJOS DEUTSCH born 1861 in ADAND Hungary
married BETTI GOLDHAMMER born 1858 in TAB Hungary
The marrige took plae in TAB.
3. They had 4 Children:
3.1 MARGIT born 1886 in ADAND died in AUSCHWITZ 1944
married IZIDOR STEINER who faught in the Hungarian army in WWI and died
She lived in Siofok and had adepartment store there.
their daughter ROZSI born 1914 in SIOFOK died in AUSCHWITZ 1944 married
ISTVAN IMMERGLUCK they lived in UJPEST
their grand daughter ZSUZSANA born 1936 died in AUSCHWITZ 1944
3.2 ERZABET born 1896 in ADAND died in AUSCHWITZ 1944
married ANDOR KELEMEN . no children.
3.3 SANDOR born in ADAND married KLARA TANDLICH their daughter Currently
lives in AUSTRALIA and we are in touch with her and her family .
3.4 My gf LIPOT born 1891 ADAND died 1939 SIOFOK
married SARI CZEISZLER born 1898 UJPEST died 1936 UJPEST.
Does this sound familliar to anyone? I guess my ggf probably had sisters
brothers and if he didn't may be his parents had.
My father doesn't recall any relatives apart >from his uncles and aunts and
This is strange as my father even knew relatives of Izidor Steiner and of
Andor Kelemen - with those we are in close contacts