Re: Some Basic Questions #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>

Thank you, Vivian, for your answer.

At 02:54 AM 11/3/2005, vkahn@... wrote:

There are records in the Hungarian state archives, the archives in
Nyireghaza, and in many other locations that have not been filmed by the
FHL. When JewishGen volunteers and staff come across such records they
attempt to acquire such records and obtain permission for JewishGen to
transcribe them. If you are unable to find the records you want in the
FHL catalog, you need to contact other sources, including the closest
regional and national archives to find out if such records exist. It's
always a good idea to first post your inquiry to the Hungarian SIG website
because many researchers have obtained records that have not been filmed
by the FHL. The next step is to contact various sources directly to find
out if the records you seek exist. H-SIG members may also be able to
direct you to the places that are most likely to have the records you seek.

The FHL donated a catalog of its Jewish records to JewishGen several years
ago. That database, which you can find on the JewishGen website, does not
include Jewish records that have been filmed during the time when this
catalog was created. You need to go to the FHL website or your local FHL
branch for more current information.

I hope that this answers your question.

Vivian Kahn

Subject: re:Some Basic Questions
From: Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:16:32 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Dear Vivian,

You mention more records >from Nireghaza. You also say that the FHL list is
dated. Do you know of these other records >from Nireghaza are being/have
been filed and just not included in the list online, or are the the numbers
available a the FHC?


12:58 AM On 10/28/2005, vkahn@... wrote:
Dear Peter,

You've asked some questions for which others who have recently begun
researching Hungarian Jewish roots may also need answers.

Hungary began civil registration in October 1895. Before then, vital
records were maintained by the Jewish community and turned over to the
authorities. One copy of these records was kept in the place where the
records were generated and the other was usually sent to the county
(megye). As a result, even though some of the local records were
destroyed during WWII, others that were kept in county, regional, or
national archives may have been preserved. The Mormon Family History
Library (FHL) has filmed many records >from pre-World War I Hungary, which
included areas that are in present-day Hungary as well as places that are
now in Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine, Yugoslavia, and other modern nations
surrounding Hungary. The first step in researching your roots is to find
out in which current nation your ancestors lived.

Check the FHL on-line catalogue to see if they have filmed Jewish records
from the places where your relatives lived. You can search a somewhat
dated version of the FHL collection of Jewish records at
You should also search the surnames and places that you are researching in
the JewishGen Hungary Database (JHD)
< >.

If you have family >from areas that are in present-day Hungary or Slovakia,
you may be able to obtain records by writing to the Hungarian or Slovak
National Archives. Check the Hungarian SIG message archives and website
for current addresses. Your research will be more difficult if your
family came >from parts of pre-Trianon Hungary that are now in Romania or
the Ukraine. The FHL has microfilmed most of the 1848 Jewish Census
records that are held by the Hungarian National
Archives, but we continue to find records in regional archives
(Nyireghaza and Satorjaujhely, for example) and archives in Romania.
We know that there are other census and Jewish vital records in Romanian
and Ukrainian archives. JewishGen is continuing to try and obtain these
records and get permission to create indices that we can publish on-line.

In addition to searching the JewishGen Hungary Database (JHD), you should
send messages to the Hungarian SIG mailing list to find out if anyone is
researching your names and/or places or can suggest other resources.
have more than 800 members in more than a dozen countries and many of them
are fluent in Hungarian. Make sure to use a meaningful subject line (e.g.
Searching KAHAN/Sziget) and include your place of residence with your full
name. This will help folks to identify resources
that are available close to where you live. Also, make sure to
turn off SPAM blockers to allow H-SIG members to reach you.

Please feel free to contact me off-line or, if your questions might be of
general interest, through the Hungarian SIG discussion group.

Happy hunting!

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator

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