New info on Hoffer/Koesis/Dobronski, further help needed in finding #hungary

Michele <michelerenee217@...>

Hello all,
Still seeking info on ancestors/descendants of my Great =
GGF -John Hoffer (b. 1875) Switzerland/Austria=20
Death approx 1930, >from collapsed lung while working in a Sugar House.=20
{His father; my GGGF- Joseph Hoffer (b.???) Married to ?????}
GGM - Elizabeth Koesis/Erzsebet Kocsis (b.1888) Budapest, Hungary. Her =
parents were Hungarian Magyars. She married John Hoffer at 16 years old. =

She died approx 1972 of a stomach tumor.
Elizabeth and John were both still Aliens in 1920 living in New York.
Children of John and Elizabeth:=20
John (b 1915), Joseph,(b?) Mike (b 1916)
Andrew (twin b 1918), Anna (twin b 1918)
Mary (b 1910), Susan (b 1912) and my grandmother:
Irene,(b approx 1921).=20
Also born were several children that died at young ages, one was Steven. =

Cousins are: Dobronski/Dumbroskie and it is possible that one may be still living in NY.

Needless to say, I know both of my great grandparents were Hungarian Jews >from Budapest and Austria/Switzerland, "exactly where" in those =
regions is unknown. I am still trying to piece together information on them and their parents through Ellis Island passenger/arrival lists and =
ship records (where some writing can be very hard to decipher). Family lore claims that the Hoffer ancestors escaped the Nazi regime and =
concentration camps. I have been told that the family converted to Catholicism because the "schools" were better during that time. However, =
it is an understandable question of why my ancestors chose to switch to Catholicism. My innate interest is in the celebration and the tradition =
of the Jewish faith. I have always been Proud of my Jewish heritage especially since being aware that it is only the girls who can pass the =
religion onto their children and so on.

I obtained very useful information >from my cousin Dennis (Susan's son) who was about 8 or 9 when my GGM Elizabeth died. He had previously done =
some research and was able to provide me with crucial dates and names of my Hoffer Aunt's and Uncle's descendants, including birthdates, =
marriages, and children that were born! What a difference a date can make in this sort of research, and of course the compilation and cross =
referencing can be mind boggling and there is much work to be done. I will be adding the pertinent info to my family tree when time allows.

I have not been able to go any further in my Hoffer research of my GGF's parents. I understand that many first given names were carried =
down >from generation to generation. Does that include female names? If so, I found alot on and Ellis Island websites for =
possible relatives of my GGM Elizabeth/Erzsebet Koesis. Can anyone assist me in making connection between them?
Elizabeth/Erzsebet Koesis, (b 1851) (GGGM?) >from Bistl Kis Falva =
Hungary, Arriving at Ellis Island Sept. 1921, visiting son George.
Andras Koesis (b 1880)
Anna Koesis (b. 1866) and Erzebet Koesis (b 1868) both Arrived July 21, =
Janos and Anna (married or siblings???) July, 1902 age 43

It has been difficult in pinpointing what area of Budapest they(Hoffer/Koesis) may have lived in before coming to America so I am =
at a standstill. Can anyone assist me in finding Birth/Marriage Records, locations, or Hungarian Census Information?=20

I also need help finding a member who has posted a response on Jan 15, 2006 to my original posting . I received a message board notification =
that a reply was posted by the author: William, with a Subject line: Reply Urgent. This is exciting, yet I am dismayed for I'm having =
difficulty pulling up what he wrote to my original post, therefore I am unable to respond to him.

Any assistance or information on any of the above would be greatly =

Thank you. Michele Talerico Renaud, NY, USA

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