Re: Slovak Records #hungary


Vladimir Bohinc <konekta@...>
 

There is a famous year 1895.
In this year the civil records have been introduced in Hungary. This means,
that everybody, disregarding religion, was recorded there.
These records are being kept at the Town Halls or Mayor's offices in
practically every town and village.
Then there is the Privacy Law, and according to that the State Registrars
are allowed to issue a certificate only to a direct descendant.
Searching in those civil records by yourself is not allowed. Not very many
Registrars are willing to search at all. This is ( my opinion) due to the
fact, that those pre 1920 records are written in hungarian and not very many
Registrars know hungarian.
Also the place names in these records are in hungarian, which some
Registrars can not decypher.
Their general attitude is:" Tell me the name and exact date and you can have
the Certificate."
Because the oldest civil records are already over 100 years old, some
Registrars have already turned them in to the Archives.
Vital records in the archives, provided they are indexed, can be accessed by
the public.
Now, on the other hand, we have the Jewish Rabinate records. These books are
all in the archives and are accessible.
They usually begin with around 1850 and end with 1895 or even 1946. This
varies very much, depending on the Rabinate.
It is also interesting, that these Jewish Rabinate records, younger than 100
years are not considered to be governed by the Privacy law, so there is no
problem to study them or request a certificate.
Paradoxically, you can ask for a certificate without any complications for a
records >from Jewish books >from let us say 1935 and this Certificate will be
written by a Registrar, who would deny you to have it for the same event,
but taken >from the civil records.
Another thing to consider is, that Civil Records of one place cover only the
immediate area of this particular place, while Jewish Rabinate records of
one Rabinate usually cover much wider geographical area.
Vladimir Bohinc
Nove Mesto n.V
Slovakia


Subject: Slovak Records
From: Dolph Klein <kledolph@duke.edu>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:09:21 -0500
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Unless procedures have changed since my last inquiry in 2003, vital
records
of events post-1895 are obtained through the auspices of the Slovak
Embassy
in Washington. The application has to be mailed to Washington and
accompanied with a bank cashier check or money order for $10.00 (back in
2003) per record. The applicant may receive a typed transcript of the
original document with no guarantee that all of the information had been
faithfully transcribed such as Hebrew names and names of mid-wives,
witnesses, etc.

For records of pre-1895 vintage, applications are mailed directly to the
Interior Ministry in Bratislava. They, in turn, determine which of the
regional archives in Slovakia is appropriate for processing the requests.
No money is sent until the archive notifies the sender of the final
payment. Be advised also that the final cost is determined by the type of
application, individual vs. running account, and by the degree of effort
spent in the research, e.g., regular vs. intensive research. The latter is
determined by the amount of money the applicant is willing to spend. In
days gone by, the application stipulated three levels of research effort
and their administrative costs. The applicant receives a photocopy of the
original document with all the information included.

Having sent several applications to Washington and Bratislava, the turn
around time varied anywhere >from seven months to two years. The wait was
well worth the results. My personal experience while visiting the regional
archive in Bratislava was that the archive was understaffed and
overworked.

Another issue is that even when records of the latter half of the 19th
Century are not readily found in the archives, they may be located in
various town halls. Finding such records requires the effort of a paid
professional researcher. Contacting the town hall directly depends on the
willingness of the staff to respond.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC

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