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Naturalization Petitions - National Archives - Varick St. NYC #general

arthur jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Dear Group,
I think I might hold the record for the fastest reply >from the
government. Last Tuesday,
the day before Passover, I sent away for my grandfather's naturalization
papers and
lo and behold on this past Saturday I received first and final papers
for his naturalization
petition. Ofcourse, I had the Certificate of Citizenship to give them
and the date and the
place of citizenship..

Although my grandfather who arrived during the blizzard of '88 in NYC
did not remember
the name of the ship and date (understably as he was just fours years
old) I got the month
and year and learned that he came >from Vilna.

But he put down that my grandmother, his wife, came >from Pinsk, Poland,
Russia. My grandmother had always told us that she had come >from Minsk
Gubernia. My question is was Pinsk ever part of Minsk Gubernia.

On the map it looks like it should be in the Grodno Gubernia.
Can anyone clarify this for me? Is it possible that with the different
changes in rule -
Russian, Polish, Belarussian, it might at one time been part of the
Minsk Gubernia.?
My grandmother arrived around l910 and the petition of naturalization is
dated l926.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated?

Diane Glazer Jacobs
Researching
GLAZER >from Kartuz Bereza
BEGIN, BEGUN, BAGOON >from Pinsk or Minsk Gubernia and Israel
SINGMAN >from Vilna


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization Petitions - National Archives - Varick St. NYC #general

arthur jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Dear Group,
I think I might hold the record for the fastest reply >from the
government. Last Tuesday,
the day before Passover, I sent away for my grandfather's naturalization
papers and
lo and behold on this past Saturday I received first and final papers
for his naturalization
petition. Ofcourse, I had the Certificate of Citizenship to give them
and the date and the
place of citizenship..

Although my grandfather who arrived during the blizzard of '88 in NYC
did not remember
the name of the ship and date (understably as he was just fours years
old) I got the month
and year and learned that he came >from Vilna.

But he put down that my grandmother, his wife, came >from Pinsk, Poland,
Russia. My grandmother had always told us that she had come >from Minsk
Gubernia. My question is was Pinsk ever part of Minsk Gubernia.

On the map it looks like it should be in the Grodno Gubernia.
Can anyone clarify this for me? Is it possible that with the different
changes in rule -
Russian, Polish, Belarussian, it might at one time been part of the
Minsk Gubernia.?
My grandmother arrived around l910 and the petition of naturalization is
dated l926.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated?

Diane Glazer Jacobs
Researching
GLAZER >from Kartuz Bereza
BEGIN, BEGUN, BAGOON >from Pinsk or Minsk Gubernia and Israel
SINGMAN >from Vilna


Soc Sec Death Index Answer #general

Joel Ives <jives@...>
 

In response to Tom HENNIE's question about deceased people for whom no
benefit was paid, it should be understood that you can still request the
SS-5 form.

The fact that the person you are searching for is not included in the
on-line databases does not mean that you won't receive the SS-5.

For example, on a long shot, I requested the SS-5 for David JANCU who is
not included in any Soc Sec database. I wrote to the Soc Sec Admin with
the only information I had; his name and the fact he lived in Brooklyn
and died sometime between 1940 and 1960. I received his SS-5 about 6
weeks later.

If the person you are looking for has a common name like David Cohen
obviously, this technique will not work.

I have wondered >from time to time what percentage of Soc Sec records are
listed in the on-line databases. Perhaps someone with contacts with the
Soc Sec Admin can answer this question.

Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, New Jersey


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Soc Sec Death Index Answer #general

Joel Ives <jives@...>
 

In response to Tom HENNIE's question about deceased people for whom no
benefit was paid, it should be understood that you can still request the
SS-5 form.

The fact that the person you are searching for is not included in the
on-line databases does not mean that you won't receive the SS-5.

For example, on a long shot, I requested the SS-5 for David JANCU who is
not included in any Soc Sec database. I wrote to the Soc Sec Admin with
the only information I had; his name and the fact he lived in Brooklyn
and died sometime between 1940 and 1960. I received his SS-5 about 6
weeks later.

If the person you are looking for has a common name like David Cohen
obviously, this technique will not work.

I have wondered >from time to time what percentage of Soc Sec records are
listed in the on-line databases. Perhaps someone with contacts with the
Soc Sec Admin can answer this question.

Joel Ives
Fair Lawn, New Jersey


Bus. Dir. Translations #general

Phrases1@...
 

Dear Barbara,
I did the translations of all of Nowogrodskie woj >from the 1929 Polish
Business Directory and made an extensive list of translations with
the help of people in France and Belarus for the obscure references.
The words that you seek are the following:
1. Blacharz c/o -- ferblantiers: TINWARE
2. Blawat y/u -- tissus: FABRICS
3. Ekspedytorzy -- expediteurs: office that sends loads somewhere
and escorts it and also means travel agent today.
expediter of shipping would be the closest
4. Ksi/c y/u arnie -- librairies: BOOK STORE
5. Manufaktura -- tissus: FABRICS
6. Pickarnie -- boulangers: BAKERS
7. Rzeznicturo? -- bouchers: BUTCHERS
8. Skory -- cuirs: LEATHERS
9. Zelaxne wyroby --quincailliers: IRONMONGER/HARDWARE
10. Zolazo -- fers: IRON
Ellen Sadove Renck - NY
VP, Grodno Genealogy Group, Inc.
Lida District Coordinator

Subject: Polish business terms, translation please
From: "Barbara S. Mannlein" <bsm@interaccess.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:39:48 -0600
X-Message-Number: 11

I am trying to determine what the followining Polish/French terms mean.
They are used on a Polish list of businessmen >from my ancestral
community. Can anyone help?
[snip]
1. Blacharz c/o -- ferblanliers
2. Blawat y/u -- tissus
3. Ekspedytorzy -- expediteurs
4. Ksi/c y/u arnie -- librairies
5. Manufaktura -- tissus
6. Pickarnie -- boulangers
7. Rzeznicturo? -- bouchers
8. Skory -- cuirs
9. Zelaxne wyroby --quincailliers
10. Zolazo -- fers

Barbara S. Mannlein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bus. Dir. Translations #general

Phrases1@...
 

Dear Barbara,
I did the translations of all of Nowogrodskie woj >from the 1929 Polish
Business Directory and made an extensive list of translations with
the help of people in France and Belarus for the obscure references.
The words that you seek are the following:
1. Blacharz c/o -- ferblantiers: TINWARE
2. Blawat y/u -- tissus: FABRICS
3. Ekspedytorzy -- expediteurs: office that sends loads somewhere
and escorts it and also means travel agent today.
expediter of shipping would be the closest
4. Ksi/c y/u arnie -- librairies: BOOK STORE
5. Manufaktura -- tissus: FABRICS
6. Pickarnie -- boulangers: BAKERS
7. Rzeznicturo? -- bouchers: BUTCHERS
8. Skory -- cuirs: LEATHERS
9. Zelaxne wyroby --quincailliers: IRONMONGER/HARDWARE
10. Zolazo -- fers: IRON
Ellen Sadove Renck - NY
VP, Grodno Genealogy Group, Inc.
Lida District Coordinator

Subject: Polish business terms, translation please
From: "Barbara S. Mannlein" <bsm@interaccess.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:39:48 -0600
X-Message-Number: 11

I am trying to determine what the followining Polish/French terms mean.
They are used on a Polish list of businessmen >from my ancestral
community. Can anyone help?
[snip]
1. Blacharz c/o -- ferblanliers
2. Blawat y/u -- tissus
3. Ekspedytorzy -- expediteurs
4. Ksi/c y/u arnie -- librairies
5. Manufaktura -- tissus
6. Pickarnie -- boulangers
7. Rzeznicturo? -- bouchers
8. Skory -- cuirs
9. Zelaxne wyroby --quincailliers
10. Zolazo -- fers

Barbara S. Mannlein


Drogobych, Boryslaw and/or Nahuejowicza, Austria (now Ukraine) #general

priever@...
 

Will all persons kind enough to contact me in the past about the above
mentioned locations, please send their e-mail addresses to me ASAP to
this address. Also anyone who has posted recently with a connection to
these shtetls, please contact me. I would like to possibly start
"something" as there seem to be many people with an interest in this
location.
TIA
David Priever


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Drogobych, Boryslaw and/or Nahuejowicza, Austria (now Ukraine) #general

priever@...
 

Will all persons kind enough to contact me in the past about the above
mentioned locations, please send their e-mail addresses to me ASAP to
this address. Also anyone who has posted recently with a connection to
these shtetls, please contact me. I would like to possibly start
"something" as there seem to be many people with an interest in this
location.
TIA
David Priever


Re: Warsaw Ghetto Uprising #general

glenda rubin <glenda.rubin@...>
 

Kibbutz Yad Mordechai, about 10 kilometers south of Ashkelon and a few
kilometers north of the Gaza Strip, was founded by Polish Jews, and is
named in honor of Mordechai Anielewicz, the leader of the Warsaw Ghetto
uprising.

The kibbutz has a museum devoted to the 1948 siege of the kibbutz and the
holocaust in general, and, I believe, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in
particular. Sorry, I don't remember details; it's been many years since
I was there. They may have specifics you're looking for. I do not know
what research facilities may be available, and I don't know if they have
a web site. I believe the kibbutz address is: Kibbutz Yad Mordechai,
D.N. (stands for rural post) Ashkelon, Israel.

Hope that might help.

Glenda Rubin
San Francisco Bay Area
Glenda.Rubin@Juno.com
On 4 Apr 1999 19:59:42 GMT plutsk@aol.com (Plutsk) writes:

The doomed but heroic uprising against the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto
is history. Is there any record of the individuals who participated in
it or who played a leading part in the uprising?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Warsaw Ghetto Uprising #general

glenda rubin <glenda.rubin@...>
 

Kibbutz Yad Mordechai, about 10 kilometers south of Ashkelon and a few
kilometers north of the Gaza Strip, was founded by Polish Jews, and is
named in honor of Mordechai Anielewicz, the leader of the Warsaw Ghetto
uprising.

The kibbutz has a museum devoted to the 1948 siege of the kibbutz and the
holocaust in general, and, I believe, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising in
particular. Sorry, I don't remember details; it's been many years since
I was there. They may have specifics you're looking for. I do not know
what research facilities may be available, and I don't know if they have
a web site. I believe the kibbutz address is: Kibbutz Yad Mordechai,
D.N. (stands for rural post) Ashkelon, Israel.

Hope that might help.

Glenda Rubin
San Francisco Bay Area
Glenda.Rubin@Juno.com
On 4 Apr 1999 19:59:42 GMT plutsk@aol.com (Plutsk) writes:

The doomed but heroic uprising against the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto
is history. Is there any record of the individuals who participated in
it or who played a leading part in the uprising?


Volkovysk yizkor--I'm confused.. #belarus

Phrases1@...
 

Dear Joyce,
If it's in Yiddish, I would do the necrology if you can't get anyone else.
I thought >from you letter [posted it on Grodno digest] though, that it was
in Hebrew. Maybe Meg could clarify the confusion.

Ellen Sadove Renck
Phrases1@aol.com

Meg Power <MALKA1234@aol.com> wrote:

Could some one list the Volkovysk YBs other than the huge work assembled
by M Einhorn in 9 which is largely in Yiddish but has 100+ pages in
English? What would be the sxe and naure of a project translating all
these? How are they different? I'd be glad to look up the names in the
English section of the YB of which I have a copy...
---SNIP


Belarus SIG #Belarus Volkovysk yizkor--I'm confused.. #belarus

Phrases1@...
 

Dear Joyce,
If it's in Yiddish, I would do the necrology if you can't get anyone else.
I thought >from you letter [posted it on Grodno digest] though, that it was
in Hebrew. Maybe Meg could clarify the confusion.

Ellen Sadove Renck
Phrases1@aol.com

Meg Power <MALKA1234@aol.com> wrote:

Could some one list the Volkovysk YBs other than the huge work assembled
by M Einhorn in 9 which is largely in Yiddish but has 100+ pages in
English? What would be the sxe and naure of a project translating all
these? How are they different? I'd be glad to look up the names in the
English section of the YB of which I have a copy...
---SNIP


Resources #general

Rakoff125
 

friends,
I recall someone searching for information on the Knights of Pythias. My Dad
belonged to the Queens, NY chapter which meets the 2nd and 4th Tuesday of
each month at CastleHall Temple Beth Shalom, Northern Blvd. & 172 Street,
Flushing, NY. (and we still get the newsletter after 15 years!) They have a
cemetary committee and a bunch of committees. The editor of the newsletter is
Steve Zornberg, : STEVIEZ19@aol.com

For cemetary information, my grandfather, Fred Gelberg, who was of Roumanian
ancestry belonged to the Samuel Tichner society, and is buried in their site
at Mt. Carmel cemetary. I see the American Jewish Historical Society has a
1926 booklet >from the Landsmanschaft dinner which lists 75 officers and
members. I hope to get a look at it when I have time to get over there, which
may not be for several weeks. If there are names you wish me to look for
please email me privately.

Finally, Grandpa Fred Gelberg, born 1899, Eldridge Street, Lower East Side of
NYC, was a member of the Whittier Club. A social/athletic club of young
Jewish men that, I think, may have been tied in with the Y but I am not sure.
I have a picture of a group of them; there are no names other than my gf that
I can identify. write me if you wish to explore this information.

Linda Rakoff, Newton, MA




Searching: ASCHNER- Hradiste,Bresova,Kaschau(Kosice. SK now),SpisskaNovy
Ves (aka Iglo, Yglo),Wien;BAUER,Hedwig-Wien,BUCHWALD-Wien,Budapest,
LOW'Y-Hradiste,Spisska Novy Ves GELBERG/LIPSHITZ-Galati GOLDMAN(N),LANGER
-Kosice, Spisska Novy Ves,Bolyar, POLATSECK-Kosice KOOPER,LISSAUER-Losonc,
Miskolz KOHN,STINGL: Wien, Bratislava RAKOFF-Kelce, Russia GORDON-Vilna
MELTZER,RIESENBERG,PERLBINDER,DRANSCH,LICHTENTAL,LADENHEIM-Horodenka,
Galicia BRETTSCHNEIDER, Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Resources #general

Rakoff125
 

friends,
I recall someone searching for information on the Knights of Pythias. My Dad
belonged to the Queens, NY chapter which meets the 2nd and 4th Tuesday of
each month at CastleHall Temple Beth Shalom, Northern Blvd. & 172 Street,
Flushing, NY. (and we still get the newsletter after 15 years!) They have a
cemetary committee and a bunch of committees. The editor of the newsletter is
Steve Zornberg, : STEVIEZ19@aol.com

For cemetary information, my grandfather, Fred Gelberg, who was of Roumanian
ancestry belonged to the Samuel Tichner society, and is buried in their site
at Mt. Carmel cemetary. I see the American Jewish Historical Society has a
1926 booklet >from the Landsmanschaft dinner which lists 75 officers and
members. I hope to get a look at it when I have time to get over there, which
may not be for several weeks. If there are names you wish me to look for
please email me privately.

Finally, Grandpa Fred Gelberg, born 1899, Eldridge Street, Lower East Side of
NYC, was a member of the Whittier Club. A social/athletic club of young
Jewish men that, I think, may have been tied in with the Y but I am not sure.
I have a picture of a group of them; there are no names other than my gf that
I can identify. write me if you wish to explore this information.

Linda Rakoff, Newton, MA




Searching: ASCHNER- Hradiste,Bresova,Kaschau(Kosice. SK now),SpisskaNovy
Ves (aka Iglo, Yglo),Wien;BAUER,Hedwig-Wien,BUCHWALD-Wien,Budapest,
LOW'Y-Hradiste,Spisska Novy Ves GELBERG/LIPSHITZ-Galati GOLDMAN(N),LANGER
-Kosice, Spisska Novy Ves,Bolyar, POLATSECK-Kosice KOOPER,LISSAUER-Losonc,
Miskolz KOHN,STINGL: Wien, Bratislava RAKOFF-Kelce, Russia GORDON-Vilna
MELTZER,RIESENBERG,PERLBINDER,DRANSCH,LICHTENTAL,LADENHEIM-Horodenka,
Galicia BRETTSCHNEIDER, Galicia


Kovno or Kaunas ? #general

Norman Feldman <felvelnic@...>
 

In 1900 was it called Kovno or Kaunas, Lith. ?

Thanks,
Norman Feldman
Albuquerque


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kovno or Kaunas ? #general

Norman Feldman <felvelnic@...>
 

In 1900 was it called Kovno or Kaunas, Lith. ?

Thanks,
Norman Feldman
Albuquerque


Re: 2nd Guild Merchants in Odessa #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

On January 19, 1999, Marcia Aronow asked about the occupations of 2nd
Guild Merchants in Odessa around 1900. I wanted to answer her but at the
time I had read only Steven Zipperstein's "Jews of Odessa," which did not
describe the guild system very thoroughly.

Since then I have read another book about Odessa (Patricia Herlihy's
"Odessa:A History 1794-1914, Harvard University Press, 1986," as well as
some other books on Russian history, but none of them have been very clear in
describing who were the members of the lower guilds.

However, in an article entitled "Economic Conditions of the Jews in
Russia," written in 1907, by Isaac M. Rubinow, and published in Vol. 15 of
the US Department of Commerce and Labor, Bulletin of Labor, pp, 487-582 one
can read descriptions of each guild or class of money-earners.

In the first guild were merchants who paid a high business licence. They
must have paid for that privilege somewhere in the Pale for five consecutive
years. The right of living anywhere in Russia, outside the Pale lasted as
long as payment was continued. After ten annual payments, the merchant
received the right to live within the city in which he made the payment.

In the second class, there were"physicians, lawyers, dentists, graduate
engineers, army surgeons, midwives," and students and graduates of
institutions of higher learning.

In the third class were "Master artisans working at their trades when
admitted to their artisans' guild, or possessing the necessary legal evidence
of proficiency in their crafts."

Rubinow says that [I]n all these cases the acquired right of domicile
extends to members of the immediate family, and in cases of the merchants of
the first guild and the professional persons, to a limited number of servants
and artisans of the Jewish faith."

Isaac Rubinow, incidentally, whose ideas were much admired by Franklin
Roosevelt, might be called the architect of our US Social Security System.
His article about the economic conditions of Russian Jews was reprinted in
book form but since I first heard about the book, I wasn't able to find a
copy no matter where I inquired.

Fortunately, after first telling me I might have to ask for an
interlibrary loan, (only one copy was located somewhere in the US.) the
Government Publication librarians at Indiana University, recently found the
Department of Labor volume where it lay crumbling in storage, and photocopied
the article for me.

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@aol.com
99/04/05


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 2nd Guild Merchants in Odessa #general

NFatouros@...
 

Dear People,

On January 19, 1999, Marcia Aronow asked about the occupations of 2nd
Guild Merchants in Odessa around 1900. I wanted to answer her but at the
time I had read only Steven Zipperstein's "Jews of Odessa," which did not
describe the guild system very thoroughly.

Since then I have read another book about Odessa (Patricia Herlihy's
"Odessa:A History 1794-1914, Harvard University Press, 1986," as well as
some other books on Russian history, but none of them have been very clear in
describing who were the members of the lower guilds.

However, in an article entitled "Economic Conditions of the Jews in
Russia," written in 1907, by Isaac M. Rubinow, and published in Vol. 15 of
the US Department of Commerce and Labor, Bulletin of Labor, pp, 487-582 one
can read descriptions of each guild or class of money-earners.

In the first guild were merchants who paid a high business licence. They
must have paid for that privilege somewhere in the Pale for five consecutive
years. The right of living anywhere in Russia, outside the Pale lasted as
long as payment was continued. After ten annual payments, the merchant
received the right to live within the city in which he made the payment.

In the second class, there were"physicians, lawyers, dentists, graduate
engineers, army surgeons, midwives," and students and graduates of
institutions of higher learning.

In the third class were "Master artisans working at their trades when
admitted to their artisans' guild, or possessing the necessary legal evidence
of proficiency in their crafts."

Rubinow says that [I]n all these cases the acquired right of domicile
extends to members of the immediate family, and in cases of the merchants of
the first guild and the professional persons, to a limited number of servants
and artisans of the Jewish faith."

Isaac Rubinow, incidentally, whose ideas were much admired by Franklin
Roosevelt, might be called the architect of our US Social Security System.
His article about the economic conditions of Russian Jews was reprinted in
book form but since I first heard about the book, I wasn't able to find a
copy no matter where I inquired.

Fortunately, after first telling me I might have to ask for an
interlibrary loan, (only one copy was located somewhere in the US.) the
Government Publication librarians at Indiana University, recently found the
Department of Labor volume where it lay crumbling in storage, and photocopied
the article for me.

Naomi Fatouros
NFatouros@aol.com
99/04/05


additional family info--Munkacs/Mukachevo #general

cohentalk@...
 

My great grandparents Leopold/Pesach Leib KATZ and Raizl WEISS KATZ
born about 1860 in Munkacs/Mukachevo Hungary now Ukraine. Their
business/home address in Munkacs was #25 Judenstrasse/Yehudah Levi? Street.
Their business was "KATZ Grocery" and supplier of walnuts to Budapest. and
other locations.

One of their sons was Phillip/Fulop KATZ born about 1895, Munkacs, who had a
soda pop business there. His wife was Hanna NEWMAN/NEUMAN.
They had children but I know only one name-- Rozsi, a daughter.

Another son Abraham/Adolph KATZ born 1882, Munkacs was a horse trader who
married Hanna PENNER. Their daughter Helen(e) KATZ born 1921,Munkacs
married Icu GREENFIELD >from Munkacs.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post. Anyone have a connection?

Happy Pesach,
Linda Cohen cohentalk@aol.com, MichiganUSA

KATZ, EISENBERG, WEISS, ROTH, SCHWIMMER, NEWMAN, GREENFIELD
Mukachevo and Zsuko/Zhukove Hungary/Ukraine
KATZ & BRONSTEIN Bustyhaza/Bustyna and Chust/Huszt, Hungary/Ukraine

EPSTEIN & ROTMAN Nevelozh & Slutsk Belarus
DRUCKER & BECKER Ludmir Wolyn/Vladymir Volhynia, Poland/Russia/Ukraine
and Uchanie/Uscilug, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen additional family info--Munkacs/Mukachevo #general

cohentalk@...
 

My great grandparents Leopold/Pesach Leib KATZ and Raizl WEISS KATZ
born about 1860 in Munkacs/Mukachevo Hungary now Ukraine. Their
business/home address in Munkacs was #25 Judenstrasse/Yehudah Levi? Street.
Their business was "KATZ Grocery" and supplier of walnuts to Budapest. and
other locations.

One of their sons was Phillip/Fulop KATZ born about 1895, Munkacs, who had a
soda pop business there. His wife was Hanna NEWMAN/NEUMAN.
They had children but I know only one name-- Rozsi, a daughter.

Another son Abraham/Adolph KATZ born 1882, Munkacs was a horse trader who
married Hanna PENNER. Their daughter Helen(e) KATZ born 1921,Munkacs
married Icu GREENFIELD >from Munkacs.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post. Anyone have a connection?

Happy Pesach,
Linda Cohen cohentalk@aol.com, MichiganUSA

KATZ, EISENBERG, WEISS, ROTH, SCHWIMMER, NEWMAN, GREENFIELD
Mukachevo and Zsuko/Zhukove Hungary/Ukraine
KATZ & BRONSTEIN Bustyhaza/Bustyna and Chust/Huszt, Hungary/Ukraine

EPSTEIN & ROTMAN Nevelozh & Slutsk Belarus
DRUCKER & BECKER Ludmir Wolyn/Vladymir Volhynia, Poland/Russia/Ukraine
and Uchanie/Uscilug, Poland