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Re: please help Genner # 546778

David Lewin
 

At 11:37 AM 07-11-19, Kathy Miller wrote:
The oldest daughter of Israel Goldmann - Henriette - married Simon Herlitz. The couple had a lot of children and the two sonsÂ
Hans (grandfather of Hanna, 1873-1942) andÂ
Ismar (1877-1941) went from Neisse to Frankfurt.Â
The third brother in that region was Fritz Herlitz (1871 in Neisse - 1948 in Marburg).Â
I don't know how and why he, his wife and his son survived WW2. He was Jewish, his wife was Jewish and the son was Jewish. Suddenly during WW2 the wife was no longer Jewish but protestant. I don't know why because  her birth certificate has been sited.  Her mother was Jewish without any doubt.
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Family Herlitz moved from Frankfurt to Marburg during WW2, the son, Michael  had a cinema after the war and they lived in Bahnhofsstrasse 22.Â
Michael Herlitz lives in Bahnhofsstrasse 29Â , Marburg.
I've written to him with no response...does anyone out there know of this person or family?
Thanks in anticipation

Kathy


Have you tried www.telefonbuch.de  ?

The other thing to do is contact the civil registry authority

David Lewin
London

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at http://remember.org/unite/ and at http://searchandunite.org/

finding ship manifest

Paulette Volgyesi
 


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Can anyone tell me where I can find the manifest for the Empress of France ship that sailed from Calais, France in December, 1956?
Thanks very much.

Re: Finding relatives #Hungary

Ron Hoenig
 

Vivian’s advice is very good. You might also be interested to know that ppl chose the name Bihari because it sounded less Jewish that many surnames (eg Beckmann) and refers to the county Hajdu-Bihar in Hungary in which lived or were born

Lithuanian gravestones #Help #Holocaust #Lithuania #advice

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman
 

Shalom Hevra:

Attached are poor copies of gravestone photographs taken in the old  Rumshishok (Rumsiskes) cemetery in 1940.  In the early 1950's the shtetl of Rumshishok and surrounding area was flooded in order to create the Kauno Marios.  Somehow just prior to the planned flooding, the shammas from Kovno arranged with the Soviet authorities to transfer the remains (but not the matzevos) from the old Rumshishok cemetery, and the killing ravine outside of town, to the Aleksotas cemetery in Kaunas.  To this day, I am in awe of this shammas for succeeding in this mitzva.  

I approach you today for two reasons.  First, for those who have AMAZING technical skills, please try and improve these photographic copies so we can read the matzevos.  The cemetery is long gone and this is all we have.  Second, and this one is a bit nutty, we found a 1944 aerial Luftwaffe photograph showing the exact latitude and longitude of the old Rumshishok cemetery.  Having this knowledge, we could send a diver down to see if the any of the matzevos survived.  Our hope is that a layer of silt may have covered the stones and protected the writing.  Your thoughts, expertise, ideas and potential plans are welcome.  

The aerial photograph, gravestone copies, and much more may be found at https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Rumsiskes

Thank you!

Rabbi Benzi Saydman
http://www.tolheritage.org

MAYPER, MAIPER, MELTSNER, MARCUS, AUG, NEVIAZHSKY, ROMM, KRULL, NUROCK, BEKER, LEVIN, SIEGEL, GORDON, RAPHAEL, CHIPKIN, WERNER, SATINSKY, RUBIN, STEINBERG, ISRAEL, NEWMAN, RODOFF, BOHLMAN, KANTER, MOISEIWITSCH, ROTFORT, SABSEVITZ, MITCHELL, MARCOVITZ, BLOCK, BLOCH  Rumsiskes, Bialystok, Telsiai, Kelem, Kaunas, Vilnius, Zasliai, Ariogala, Jerusalem, Manchester, New York, Philadelphia, Atlantic City

Fall issue of AVOTAYANU

Gary Mokotoff
 

The Fall issue of AVOTAYANU will go to the printer this week. One unusual aspect of it is that it will be 76 pages—eight pages more than the usual size. This was triggered by an 18-page article about researching landsmanshaftn societies. Its importance is not so much about these societies but the genealogical methodology the author used to acquire information about these groups. Read it because it may make you aware of genealogical resources not previously known to you, or research techniques that might assist in other parts of your research.

 

The lead article is by IAJGS past president, Marlis Humphrey, about a new IAJGS venture to develop an online catalog of information about record collections of Jewish genealogical value. Emphasis will be to root out what AVOTAYNU editor, Sallyann Sack-Pikus, calls “second tier” records—records that have information about Jewish persons but are not obviously Jewish.

 

This article is followed by an article about facial recognition software. We all struggle with photos of family members taken at various times of their lives, and question whether a face in one picture is the same as another taken decades later. Facial recognition software can help with these decisions.

 

The third article focuses on solving genealogical photo mysteries. It is written by Ava Cohn, who has dubbed herself “Sherlock Cohn” and is a professional analyzer of photos. She can help you date family photos.

 

All told there are 11 articles plus the usual columns, From Our Contributing editors, U.S. Update, Ask Dr. Beider About Names, Brick Walls, Book Review and From Our Mailbox.

 

View the issue’s Table of Contents at http://avotaynu.com/2019FallPage01.pdf.

Additional information about AVTAYNU can be found at http://avotaynu.com/journal.htm.

 

Gary Mokotoff

 

Re: Where is Politzk, Russia? #russsia #Lithuania

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Can it be Polotsk, Vitebsk gubernia, now Belarus?
best wishes
Elsebetb Paikin

Dorohi cemetery (Romania)

Malka
 

Hello Genners,

 

I have been working on the Dorohoi Jewish Cemetery listing  and it is  now at 93%.  No further images are available.  I’ll be happy to complete the listing once I am informed that the rest of the images have been released.   Shalom, Malka

 

HERLITZ from Neisse, Frankfurt, and Marburg [was: please help Genner # 546778]

Renee Steinig
 

According to an 1898 marriage record on Ancestry, Fritz HERLITZ, born 1871, married Jettchen ROTHSCHILD, born 1874. Unless Fritz had a second (and younger wife), it's unlikely that he had a son who is still alive. Perhaps the Michael Herlitz whose name shows up in a Google search is a grandson or great-grandson, if related at all.

It's interesting to see that Fritz Herlitz's 1948 death record -- clearly the right Fritz -- says that his parents were Alfred and Gretel and that he was "konfessionloss" (had no religion). Perhaps Fritz and his family survived by passing as non-Jews.

Suggestion: Post also to JewishGen's "GerSIG" list. Some of its most knowledgeable subscribers are not on this list.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...

PS Ismar Herlitz was transported from Frankfurt to Kovno on Nov. 22, 1941. Two of my father's sisters, Sophie Stern and Toni Stern, were on the same train, which took over 900 Frankfurt Jews to what's now Kaunas, Lithuania. They were all shot to death on arrival, at the infamous Ninth Fort. A memorial to these victims was recently dedicated at the site: https://www.lzb.lt/en/2018/04/19/memorial-plaque-unveiled-on-ninth-fort-mass-murder-field/ . More information about the transport:


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:18 AM Kathy Miller <kathyjmiller@...> wrote:
The oldest daughter of Israel Goldmann - Henriette - married Simon Herlitz. The couple had a lot of children and the two sons 
Hans (grandfather of Hanna, 1873-1942) and 
Ismar (1877-1941) went from Neisse to Frankfurt. 
The third brother in that region was Fritz Herlitz (1871 in Neisse - 1948 in Marburg). 
I don't know how and why he, his wife and his son survived WW2. He was Jewish, his wife was Jewish and the son was Jewish. Suddenly during WW2 the wife was no longer Jewish but protestant. I don't know why because  her birth certificate has been sited.  Her mother was Jewish without any doubt.
 
Family Herlitz moved from Frankfurt to Marburg during WW2, the son, Michael had a cinema after the war and they lived in Bahnhofsstrasse 22. 
Michael Herlitz lives in Bahnhofsstrasse 29, Marburg.
I've written to him with no response...does anyone out there know of this person or family?
Thanks in anticipation

Kathy

Re: finding ship manifest

Renee Steinig
 

This collection on Ancestry includes arrivals of the Empress of France on Dec. 1 and Dec. 23, 1956:

Passenger and Crew Lists for U.S.-Bound Vessels Arriving in Canada, 1912-1939 and 1953-1962
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/quebecpasscrew/

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 3:17 PM <paulettev.46@...> wrote:

Can anyone tell me where I can find the manifest for the Empress of France ship that sailed from Calais, France in December, 1956?
Thanks very much.

Re: Where is Politzk, Russia? #russsia #Lithuania

Yaakov Saxon
 

I’m sure people more knowledgeable will chime in, but I wonder if Politzk might be Plotzk, the Yiddish name for Plock, Poland (then under the Russian empire - my ancestors from nearby Plonsk also have it listed as Russia)

Yaakov Saxon

Need help with: KOMINSKY, KULINSKY, KAY, BARTH, GERSON, PRELUTZKY in Illinois, USA #USA #chicago #Help

Yohanan
 

I am asking for your help in finding any contact or any more family information of families KOMINSKY, KULINSKY, KAY, BARTH, GERSON, PRELUTZKY,
probabaly from Illinois, USA.
This is a follow up to my enquiry from a few days ago " Looking for Lois KULINSKY in USA ".  
I have found out that, sadly, Lois died a couple of months ago.
Though Renne kindly sent me the attached obituary from 1989 of Lois's father Ben Kay which includes the above surnames and whom I wish to contact now.
There is a good chance that they are newly discovered cousins.

Thank you for your help

Yohanan LOEFFLER
Melbourne Australia

Re: Where is Politzk, Russia? #russsia #Lithuania

Russ Maurer
 

Consider Polatsk, Belarus, about 150 miles from Vilnius. Less likely option: Płock ("Plotsk"), Poland. Both were within the Russian empire prior to WWI.

Russ Maurer

Re: finding ship manifest

Hilary Henkin
 

Where did it sail TO?

Hilary Henkin


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Can anyone tell me where I can find the manifest for the Empress of France ship that sailed from Calais, France in December, 1956?
Thanks very much.
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DNA Research #DNA Conceptual Guidance On Y111 YDNA Haplogroup Interpretation #DNA

Adam Cherson
 

Dear Genetic Genealogists,

I would like to ask the actual geneticists about something I am
encountering in my live research with the J-S12192 set of sub-branches.

In order to help explain this I have made available an image of the
current FTDNA haplotree for this region:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2vadr6o9eymufw/S12192_yDNA7or8_08NOV2019.JPG

On the chart I've highlighted my family's yDNA group in gray and the
other groups in yellow.

As shown there, our family is matching persons in haplogroups from
sister branches as closely, or sometimes even more closely, than persons
in our own haplogroup.

I have two questions relating to the tree shown:

1) what could it mean that there are such close Y111 distances between
persons in haplogroups across sister branches?

2) what could it mean the there is such a large gap of time between the
estimated formation of J-S12192 circa 210 CE and the formation of
J-ZS2375 circa 1080 CE, followed by the rapid fire formation of so many
sub-groups of J-ZS2375?

I look forward to hearing some guidance.

Please feel free to contact me for additional details if needed.

Adam Cherson
NY, NY

Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia (Sweden) ArkivDigital Free Access Through November 10 #scandinavia

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Starting today through Sunday, November 10 ArkivDigital is offering free
access. You can browse for free more than 85 million photographed color
images of their collections which include religious records, more than 160
million register posts searchable by name estate inventories, tax registers,
military rolls, spy documents, passenger ship manifests, and more. You can
search by name in the household congregation books for all of Sweden between
1860 and 1947. Also available are millions of aerial photos of Sweden.

You are required to register first. Go to:
https://www.arkivdigital.net/users/register You need to provide your name,
email address , street address and password. No credit card information is
requested. Then start the program in your browsers: Chrome, Safari, Firefox
and Edge. If you have previously registered you do not have to reregister.

After you have registered click on "start the program" -the blue button".
You can select English or Swedish as the language of choice in the upper
right hand corner. They recommend Chrome as your browser for the best
functionality. You will have to insert your email address and password
again.

If you think you might not have ancestors >from Sweden, there have been Jews
in Sweden since the early 1700's. albeit a small population. Sweden opened
its doors to Jews during WWII and again in 1956 when Jews were fleeing
Hungary and then again when fleeing Communists in 1968. According to the
Jewish Virtual Library the Jewish population increased tremendously between
1850 and 1920 due to immigration >from Russia and Poland. The population
reached nearly 6,500 in 1920. Small groups of German, Austrian, and Czech
Jews were allowed to immigrate to Sweden during the 1930's. Once the Nazi
brutalities were known Sweden opened its doors to Jews. In 1942, Sweden
allowed the immigration of 900 Norwegian Jews. In October 1943, Sweden gave
asylum to more than 8,000 Danish Jews, the whole Danish Jewish community,
which came to Sweden via small fishing boats. The Jewish population doubled
between 1945-1970.

Questions on this can be sent to ArkivDigital in Swedish time to
kundtjanst@...

I have no affiliation with ArkivDigital and am posting this solely for the
information of the readers.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

Esther Riva Solomon

Mark Budman
 

Hello,

I was wondering if someone could assist me. I would like to find out information on Esther Riva Solomon. The only information that I have been able to find is that she wrote a cookbook.

I am interested in her because she might be a relative, but I have not been able to find additional information outside of her cookbook.

Any assistance / guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark
mark@...

Re: grave on Mt. Of Olives

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Sadly the English version of the search page is blank and unusable.The Hebrew version works.
The English version works, you need a bit of patience, and then, a click on the (upper right hand corner)  X where you see a blank. 
After that, you can fill in names - and find some graves.

Odeda.


Re: Surnames: Palumbo - SIcily/ Homer - Poland

Nardo Bonomi
 

 
Jews are attested in Sicily since the oldest times.
Jews were an high percentage of the population in Sicily before the expulsion of the year 1492.
After the persecution some Sicilian Jews ran away, some converted and some secretly practiced Judaism for generations (Anusim).
As you know the surname means dove and it is the equivalent to the Hebrew Jonah.
Some Palumbo who were surely Jews are attested in Sicily in the 16th century and were persecuted by the Inquisition because Judaizing after the expulsion .
They are attested in the towns of Nicosia  Palermo, Piazza  Armerina
 
Nardo Bonomi Braverman
Firenze – Italy
(Author of http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Italy/italian.htm)
 

Re: Cemeteries in Israel

Dahn Cukier
 

Sorry to bust a bubble, but no. Only some
of the larger cemeteries have been done.

Problem that needs fixing. The search does not search with soundex.
Otherwise it seems fine.

When searching and not finding the grave, enter
one of the names and the father's name, narrow
the search years. I looked for a cousin I know is buried in
Jerusalem. I also know his family name is not spelled as
it sounds. I looked by first name and year of death and found
a fine photo of the grave.


BUT I am not surprised and I know that other
databases are no better. The official Tel Aviv
web site has many mistakes and when I find a
difference, I write to them. The same with the Ministry
of Defense, which has many mistakes also.

If you are planning to visit, I suggest looking
at Gravez which shows the "address" not only the
GPS location. My sister is buried on the 5th floor,
the first 2 floors have 4 graves at the same GPS each.

Dahn Cukier

On Thursday, November 7, 2019, 3:17:57 PM GMT+2, blankdavid via Groups.Jewishgen.Org <blankdavid=mac.com@...> wrote:


New app for cell phone.   GRAVEZ

Able to search all cemeteries in Israel.

Great app

David Blank
Jerusalem

Re: grave on Mt. of Olives

yknowus@...
 

Roberta Lipitz wrote: " Looking for grave of Great Grandfather Hersche Shore buried on Mount Of Olives.  Unfortunately do not know dating.  Only know that he definitely left Jaffa (out of ship from Le Havre, France) July 1903 and went back to be buried years later in Jerusalem.

Any help/advice will be greatly appreciated. "

My son Aharon Epstein mans the information booth on the Mount of Olives; helps to maintain the database; and also helps people locate graves. Write to Har-hazetim@... or call 972-2-627-5050 Sun-Thurs 09:00-17:00 (Israel time).

There is also a website:  https://mountofolives.co.il/en/  but my son cautions that it only works with Chrome and that people should cancel the auto-translate (sorry, it's a work in progress).

Several articles have been written about my son and the work the City of David is doing at the Mount of Olives. They are really doing amazing work helping people locate family members and in adding graves to the database.  

Varda Epstein
Efrat, Israel