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Re: Finding Hebrew names #general

AlanK <alan@...>
 

Wolf is a Jewish Name. So if William is named after Wolf then his
Jewish name is Wolf.

Assuming that Williams Jewish and English name are the same (Jacob)
then his Jewish name is Wolf ben Jacob.

As to Richard, unless he knows who he was named for and there Jewish
name, then all he can assume is he is "something ben Jacob".

The only way to be 100% sure is to contact the Moyals in the area where
he was born and to see if they will check there records for his bris.

I know lots of Richards and all have very different Jewish names. The
most common I've come I've seen is Rachmil. Of course, that's no
assurance that is his Jewish name.

Barbara Zimmer wrote:

How can I find a Hebrew name for someone who had a civil marriage
(hence no ketubah) and was cremated (so no gravestone)? (He
considered himself a "modern Jew" who shunned tradition.) There are
no elder family members to ask either!

The person in question was named William for his grandfather Wolf,
and he was the son of Jacob.William's son was Richard. Richard has no
idea what his Hebrew name is, nor that of his father. Richard wants to
know so that he can use the correct name when he is called to
read the Torah.

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding Hebrew names #general

AlanK <alan@...>
 

Wolf is a Jewish Name. So if William is named after Wolf then his
Jewish name is Wolf.

Assuming that Williams Jewish and English name are the same (Jacob)
then his Jewish name is Wolf ben Jacob.

As to Richard, unless he knows who he was named for and there Jewish
name, then all he can assume is he is "something ben Jacob".

The only way to be 100% sure is to contact the Moyals in the area where
he was born and to see if they will check there records for his bris.

I know lots of Richards and all have very different Jewish names. The
most common I've come I've seen is Rachmil. Of course, that's no
assurance that is his Jewish name.

Barbara Zimmer wrote:

How can I find a Hebrew name for someone who had a civil marriage
(hence no ketubah) and was cremated (so no gravestone)? (He
considered himself a "modern Jew" who shunned tradition.) There are
no elder family members to ask either!

The person in question was named William for his grandfather Wolf,
and he was the son of Jacob.William's son was Richard. Richard has no
idea what his Hebrew name is, nor that of his father. Richard wants to
know so that he can use the correct name when he is called to
read the Torah.

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia

Re: Sanok Yizkor Book #general

DebWE308@...
 

Hi Genners,
I would like to purchase a Sanok Yizkor Book. Does anyone know
where I could get one? Please email me privately.
Thank you,
Debbie Wang Etzion
DebWE308@...

Researching:
WANG, RECHES >from Sanok, WILK >from Dobra, GOLDBERG >from Przemysl

Re: Harry GREENBERG - Liberty, N.Y., 1930s--and other vital records #general

Sharon R. Korn <s.r.korn@...>
 

Vital records for Liberty, NY, will not be available through New York City,
regardless of how close it may be to Liberty. Here is a link for Vital
Records for New York State:

http://www.nyhealth.gov/vital_records/

The process of getting the desired information can take 3 months or more,
but you will get an answer. Sometimes the answer is that the information is
not available, but for a death in the 1930's, a certificate should be
available.

Some cities also keep their own vital records. Use this link to go to any
city or state in the country:

http://www.firstgov.gov/Agencies/State_and_Territories.shtml

Sharon Korn
San Diego, CA

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Sanok Yizkor Book #general

DebWE308@...
 

Hi Genners,
I would like to purchase a Sanok Yizkor Book. Does anyone know
where I could get one? Please email me privately.
Thank you,
Debbie Wang Etzion
DebWE308@...

Researching:
WANG, RECHES >from Sanok, WILK >from Dobra, GOLDBERG >from Przemysl

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Harry GREENBERG - Liberty, N.Y., 1930s--and other vital records #general

Sharon R. Korn <s.r.korn@...>
 

Vital records for Liberty, NY, will not be available through New York City,
regardless of how close it may be to Liberty. Here is a link for Vital
Records for New York State:

http://www.nyhealth.gov/vital_records/

The process of getting the desired information can take 3 months or more,
but you will get an answer. Sometimes the answer is that the information is
not available, but for a death in the 1930's, a certificate should be
available.

Some cities also keep their own vital records. Use this link to go to any
city or state in the country:

http://www.firstgov.gov/Agencies/State_and_Territories.shtml

Sharon Korn
San Diego, CA

"Holocaust in Belarus" translation #belarus

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

Landsleit, we're at a critical situation with the project to translate Dr.
Smilovitsky's "Holocaust in Belarus". Our hard-working, outstanding
translator has finished chapter 3, on the fate of Belorussian children
during the Holocaust, but we don't even have quite enough in the kitty to
pay her for this unit of work, let alone continue the project! "Holocaust
in Belarus" differs >from other works on the subject in that it was written
while archival access in Belarus was as free as it's ever been.

PLEASE PLEASE donate via
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23
!! This project is about 10th in the list of projects.

Irene Newhouse
coordinator

Belarus SIG #Belarus "Holocaust in Belarus" translation #belarus

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

Landsleit, we're at a critical situation with the project to translate Dr.
Smilovitsky's "Holocaust in Belarus". Our hard-working, outstanding
translator has finished chapter 3, on the fate of Belorussian children
during the Holocaust, but we don't even have quite enough in the kitty to
pay her for this unit of work, let alone continue the project! "Holocaust
in Belarus" differs >from other works on the subject in that it was written
while archival access in Belarus was as free as it's ever been.

PLEASE PLEASE donate via
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23
!! This project is about 10th in the list of projects.

Irene Newhouse
coordinator

Worldwide telephone books (was: Sweden re GEDALOWITZ) #general

Alan Greenberg
 

I replied privately that there is a Zelig Gdalewicz still listed in
the Boras telephone directory.

http://www.phonebookoftheworld.com/ is a wonderful resource with
telephone directories for many countries. Many of them (such as
Sweden) even do soundex-type searches.

Alan Greenberg
Montreal, Canada

At 07/04/2006 03:52 PM, Rachelle Berliner wrote:

In searching for a Gedalowitz (any spelling) family, I received an
email that I'm copying and pasting below with the permission of
Abraham AJSENBERG. If any genner in Sweden knows of this surname and
can contact them with the request they contact me, it would be
greatly appreciated.
snip>>>>>>>>>>

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Worldwide telephone books (was: Sweden re GEDALOWITZ) #general

Alan Greenberg
 

I replied privately that there is a Zelig Gdalewicz still listed in
the Boras telephone directory.

http://www.phonebookoftheworld.com/ is a wonderful resource with
telephone directories for many countries. Many of them (such as
Sweden) even do soundex-type searches.

Alan Greenberg
Montreal, Canada

At 07/04/2006 03:52 PM, Rachelle Berliner wrote:

In searching for a Gedalowitz (any spelling) family, I received an
email that I'm copying and pasting below with the permission of
Abraham AJSENBERG. If any genner in Sweden knows of this surname and
can contact them with the request they contact me, it would be
greatly appreciated.
snip>>>>>>>>>>

Searching von DORNBERG, von EMMERLING, BRANDEL, DRENTIL, SCHILDKNECHT #austria-czech

C <beachwatergirl@...>
 

Hello, cousins....
Please check my searching list below as we might be
related another way. You never know who might be
related to whom.... we live in such an integrated
world.

If you know of these families heritage OR ancestral
lineage OR are acquainted with any existing descendant
family members, please get in touch privately. Thanks
soooo much!
Lucinda Patten
beachwatergirl@...
Los Angeles, CA

Searching:
= = = Maternal
Leander von KEISEWETTER (b.1760, Principality of
Schwartzburg-Sondershausen; d.1825?) married Frau von
EMMERLING (b.?;d.?, unknown locations) and had at
least one son, Alvin Gustav von KEISEWETTER (b.1800,
Principality of Schwartzburg-Rudoltadt or
Sondershausen; d.12/30/1879, Mankato, MN).

Alvin/Alwin married Johanna Marieanna SCHULTZ (b.1800,
Schwartzburg-Katzhutte; d.10/26/1874, Mankato, MN).

Alvin emigrated to the US in 1847 and settled 1 ¼
miles NE of Mifflinburg, PA to which he brought his
family, the following year, 1848, and established
himself in his profession as Dr. Alvin Gustav
Dornberg, MD.

(von) DORNBERG... I have no idea >from which region
this family lineage originates, however, there is a
Dornberg town in the NE part of Austria
Dornberg = Niederösterreich, Austria

Christian MOESER (b.3/18/1813 or 1815,
Hesse-Darmstadt; passport marked 1836 arrival in
America; d.?, Cincinnati, OH) married Clotilda
DORNBERG (b. 1821, Principality of
Schwartzburg-Sondershausen) and first made their home
in New Berlin, PA, and eventually relocated the family
home to Cincinnati, OH in 1871. Christian and
Clotilda had 5 children.

Christian Heinrich SCHILDKNECHT (Schleswig-Holstein)
married Catharina Margaretha HANSEN (?) and had at
least one son, Joachim Friederich Wilhelm SCHILDKNECHT
(b. 1817, Marienthal, Schleswig-Holstein; d. ?).

Joachim married Katherina Magdalena BAHR (BEHR or
BAER) (b.?, Marienthal, Schleswig-Holstein ?) and had
2 sons, Carl and Gustav.

Carl Fredrich SCHILDKNECHT (b. 9/9/1842, Marienthal,
Schleswig-Holstein which was later referred to as
Lubeck, Germany ?; d. 8/20/1941, Seattle, WA,
according to a Mankato obituary) married Emma MOESER
in Milwaukee on12/11/1871. Carl and Emma had 4
children, Carl, Edmund, Lucy, and Ella.

Carl SCHILDKNECHT (b.9/25/1872, Milwaukee WS) married
Bertha EICHEL.

I only have limited information I have on this EICHEL
lineage. There was a house named EICHEL on Frankfurt
on Main in the Jewish ghetto that was given to
non-Jewish Germans, when the whole street was shipped
off to an extermination camp during the Holocaust.

One possibile link is stated on 1930 Milwaukee, WI US
Census:
R. EICHEL (1862? Germany) + Louise GROSS (b. 1849,
Germany); daughter, Bertha EICHEL (12/21/1879,
Chicago; d. Unknown), but I cannot locate Louise GROSS
anywhere and I have no information regarding places of
birth, dates or places of death.

This ship manifest is a possible link:
First Name: Richard
Last Name: Eichel
Ethnicity: USA
Last Place of Residence: ... Conn.
Date of Arrival: Oct 23, 1901
Age at Arrival: 44y Gender: M Marital Status:
M
Ship of Travel: Bremen
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0013
Destination: Springfield, OH

I do not know whether this is the right EICHEL,
however, I do know that a Bertha EICHEL married Carl
SCHILDKNECHT and had 3 children (Edmund, Gertrude,
Armin) and one census someone told me has a Louise
Eichel listed as living with them.

Unfortunately, I never knew my g-grand-mother or
father and neither did my mother or her sister... we
are completely lost with regard to finding them.

I only mention the following Hans SCHILDKNECHT because
- due to place of origin - he is most likely a cousin
or uncle who has WEISS in their lineage:
Patricia Ship Manifest, sailing >from Hamburg,
September 11, 1913 on which one unmarried Hans
Schildknecht, 18, is traveling>from Lubeck to visit his
aunt, Soyphe (?) or Josylph (can’t read the manifest
scrawl that well) WEISS, 330 Rivorsts or Rivoints,
Hoboyken, NJ

Adolphus Ferdinand WIRTH (b.3/13/1814, Germany; d.?)
married Franciska BRANDLE (b.10/15/1818, ?; d.,?) and
they had at least one son, Adolphus Josephus WIRTH
(b.4/8/1854, _____?; d.3/6/1924, _____, ?).

AJ WIRTH married Teresa DRENTIL (b. 12/30/1858,
Stasbourg Vintners; d. _____) and they had at least
one son, Frederick Adolphus WIRTH (b.7/7/1883, ?;
d.6/12/1932, California?).

Fred married Grace Elizabeth THOMPSON, one of the
children born to Frank THOMPSON + Isabella “Belle”
Victoria PEARSON (d.1886?). They had at least one
son, Wilfred “Frederich” John WIRTH.

LaVergne NEVILLIER married Wilfred WIRTH and they had
one child, Bryce Nevillier WIRTH (b.7/12/1932,
Burbank, CA; died in the line of duty as an Auxillary
Sheriff in Ventura county, 8/19/1960).

SEARCHING (Female/Male):
von DORNBERG, von EMMERLING/von KEISEWETTER,
DORNBERG/MOESER, MOESER/SCHILDKNECHT,
HANSEN?/SCHILDKNECHT, BAHR(BEHR,BAER)/SCHILDKNECHT,
GROSS/EICHEL, EICHEL/SCHILDKNECHT,
SCHILDKNECHT/COMPTON, COMPTON/WIRTH (adopted at 12 by
Carlisle C. PATTEN)

BRANDLE/WIRTH, DRENTIL/WIRTH, PEARSON/THOMPSON,
THOMPSON/WIRTH, CUTTER/NEUVILLIER, BUTLER/MacNEISH,
MacNEISH (NISH)/NEVILLIER, THOMPSON/WIRTH,
NEVILLIER/WIRTH

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately unless your response is
clearly of general interest.

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Searching von DORNBERG, von EMMERLING, BRANDEL, DRENTIL, SCHILDKNECHT #austria-czech

C <beachwatergirl@...>
 

Hello, cousins....
Please check my searching list below as we might be
related another way. You never know who might be
related to whom.... we live in such an integrated
world.

If you know of these families heritage OR ancestral
lineage OR are acquainted with any existing descendant
family members, please get in touch privately. Thanks
soooo much!
Lucinda Patten
beachwatergirl@...
Los Angeles, CA

Searching:
= = = Maternal
Leander von KEISEWETTER (b.1760, Principality of
Schwartzburg-Sondershausen; d.1825?) married Frau von
EMMERLING (b.?;d.?, unknown locations) and had at
least one son, Alvin Gustav von KEISEWETTER (b.1800,
Principality of Schwartzburg-Rudoltadt or
Sondershausen; d.12/30/1879, Mankato, MN).

Alvin/Alwin married Johanna Marieanna SCHULTZ (b.1800,
Schwartzburg-Katzhutte; d.10/26/1874, Mankato, MN).

Alvin emigrated to the US in 1847 and settled 1 ¼
miles NE of Mifflinburg, PA to which he brought his
family, the following year, 1848, and established
himself in his profession as Dr. Alvin Gustav
Dornberg, MD.

(von) DORNBERG... I have no idea >from which region
this family lineage originates, however, there is a
Dornberg town in the NE part of Austria
Dornberg = Niederösterreich, Austria

Christian MOESER (b.3/18/1813 or 1815,
Hesse-Darmstadt; passport marked 1836 arrival in
America; d.?, Cincinnati, OH) married Clotilda
DORNBERG (b. 1821, Principality of
Schwartzburg-Sondershausen) and first made their home
in New Berlin, PA, and eventually relocated the family
home to Cincinnati, OH in 1871. Christian and
Clotilda had 5 children.

Christian Heinrich SCHILDKNECHT (Schleswig-Holstein)
married Catharina Margaretha HANSEN (?) and had at
least one son, Joachim Friederich Wilhelm SCHILDKNECHT
(b. 1817, Marienthal, Schleswig-Holstein; d. ?).

Joachim married Katherina Magdalena BAHR (BEHR or
BAER) (b.?, Marienthal, Schleswig-Holstein ?) and had
2 sons, Carl and Gustav.

Carl Fredrich SCHILDKNECHT (b. 9/9/1842, Marienthal,
Schleswig-Holstein which was later referred to as
Lubeck, Germany ?; d. 8/20/1941, Seattle, WA,
according to a Mankato obituary) married Emma MOESER
in Milwaukee on12/11/1871. Carl and Emma had 4
children, Carl, Edmund, Lucy, and Ella.

Carl SCHILDKNECHT (b.9/25/1872, Milwaukee WS) married
Bertha EICHEL.

I only have limited information I have on this EICHEL
lineage. There was a house named EICHEL on Frankfurt
on Main in the Jewish ghetto that was given to
non-Jewish Germans, when the whole street was shipped
off to an extermination camp during the Holocaust.

One possibile link is stated on 1930 Milwaukee, WI US
Census:
R. EICHEL (1862? Germany) + Louise GROSS (b. 1849,
Germany); daughter, Bertha EICHEL (12/21/1879,
Chicago; d. Unknown), but I cannot locate Louise GROSS
anywhere and I have no information regarding places of
birth, dates or places of death.

This ship manifest is a possible link:
First Name: Richard
Last Name: Eichel
Ethnicity: USA
Last Place of Residence: ... Conn.
Date of Arrival: Oct 23, 1901
Age at Arrival: 44y Gender: M Marital Status:
M
Ship of Travel: Bremen
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0013
Destination: Springfield, OH

I do not know whether this is the right EICHEL,
however, I do know that a Bertha EICHEL married Carl
SCHILDKNECHT and had 3 children (Edmund, Gertrude,
Armin) and one census someone told me has a Louise
Eichel listed as living with them.

Unfortunately, I never knew my g-grand-mother or
father and neither did my mother or her sister... we
are completely lost with regard to finding them.

I only mention the following Hans SCHILDKNECHT because
- due to place of origin - he is most likely a cousin
or uncle who has WEISS in their lineage:
Patricia Ship Manifest, sailing >from Hamburg,
September 11, 1913 on which one unmarried Hans
Schildknecht, 18, is traveling>from Lubeck to visit his
aunt, Soyphe (?) or Josylph (can’t read the manifest
scrawl that well) WEISS, 330 Rivorsts or Rivoints,
Hoboyken, NJ

Adolphus Ferdinand WIRTH (b.3/13/1814, Germany; d.?)
married Franciska BRANDLE (b.10/15/1818, ?; d.,?) and
they had at least one son, Adolphus Josephus WIRTH
(b.4/8/1854, _____?; d.3/6/1924, _____, ?).

AJ WIRTH married Teresa DRENTIL (b. 12/30/1858,
Stasbourg Vintners; d. _____) and they had at least
one son, Frederick Adolphus WIRTH (b.7/7/1883, ?;
d.6/12/1932, California?).

Fred married Grace Elizabeth THOMPSON, one of the
children born to Frank THOMPSON + Isabella “Belle”
Victoria PEARSON (d.1886?). They had at least one
son, Wilfred “Frederich” John WIRTH.

LaVergne NEVILLIER married Wilfred WIRTH and they had
one child, Bryce Nevillier WIRTH (b.7/12/1932,
Burbank, CA; died in the line of duty as an Auxillary
Sheriff in Ventura county, 8/19/1960).

SEARCHING (Female/Male):
von DORNBERG, von EMMERLING/von KEISEWETTER,
DORNBERG/MOESER, MOESER/SCHILDKNECHT,
HANSEN?/SCHILDKNECHT, BAHR(BEHR,BAER)/SCHILDKNECHT,
GROSS/EICHEL, EICHEL/SCHILDKNECHT,
SCHILDKNECHT/COMPTON, COMPTON/WIRTH (adopted at 12 by
Carlisle C. PATTEN)

BRANDLE/WIRTH, DRENTIL/WIRTH, PEARSON/THOMPSON,
THOMPSON/WIRTH, CUTTER/NEUVILLIER, BUTLER/MacNEISH,
MacNEISH (NISH)/NEVILLIER, THOMPSON/WIRTH,
NEVILLIER/WIRTH

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately unless your response is
clearly of general interest.

Town named Burske in Austria? #austria-czech

Michael W. Knee <mikeknee@...>
 

My paternal grandfather's name was Max Wolf KNEE. We know he was born in
Austria, we don't know where. My father told me he though it was a little
village outside Vienna that has since been swallowed up by Vienna. The 1920
US Census entry for my grandfather, in the "birthplace" column, has "Burske"
crossed out and "Austria" written in beside it. I cannot find Burske on any
map of Austria. Does anyone know or is there any way to find out if there
was a town or village named Burske in Austria prior to 1900?

Thanks,

Michael Knee
Phoenix, AZ USA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Town named Burske in Austria? #austria-czech

Michael W. Knee <mikeknee@...>
 

My paternal grandfather's name was Max Wolf KNEE. We know he was born in
Austria, we don't know where. My father told me he though it was a little
village outside Vienna that has since been swallowed up by Vienna. The 1920
US Census entry for my grandfather, in the "birthplace" column, has "Burske"
crossed out and "Austria" written in beside it. I cannot find Burske on any
map of Austria. Does anyone know or is there any way to find out if there
was a town or village named Burske in Austria prior to 1900?

Thanks,

Michael Knee
Phoenix, AZ USA

Re: Grazutis/Volpe #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Generally, the name VOLPE is Italian for fox or having the characteristics
of a fox and therefore does not necessarily have a French origin. It is
possible that the name may also derive >from the shtetl of Volpa.

It can also be that the "French" soldier you have in your family was >from an
Italian portion of the Napoleon's French Empire or >from an Italian Jewish
family who went to live in France.

There are many Jews who are either Volpe or Wolpe >from Lithuania. Quite a
few of these went to South Africa, Cuba, and America. I do not know the
actual origin of their names.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

Re: Grazutis/Volpe #lithuania

Marlene Bishow
 

On: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:35:18 EDT E. Blecker wrote:

Volpe a French sounding name.
Volpe/Volpa/Wolpa is definitely the name of my PETT family's ancestral
shtetl in Grodno gubernia, now Belarus.Latitude: 53º22' Longitude: 24º22'

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Grazutis/Volpe #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Generally, the name VOLPE is Italian for fox or having the characteristics
of a fox and therefore does not necessarily have a French origin. It is
possible that the name may also derive >from the shtetl of Volpa.

It can also be that the "French" soldier you have in your family was >from an
Italian portion of the Napoleon's French Empire or >from an Italian Jewish
family who went to live in France.

There are many Jews who are either Volpe or Wolpe >from Lithuania. Quite a
few of these went to South Africa, Cuba, and America. I do not know the
actual origin of their names.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Grazutis/Volpe #lithuania

Marlene Bishow
 

On: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:35:18 EDT E. Blecker wrote:

Volpe a French sounding name.
Volpe/Volpa/Wolpa is definitely the name of my PETT family's ancestral
shtetl in Grodno gubernia, now Belarus.Latitude: 53º22' Longitude: 24º22'

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD

Polish relatives #poland

sgesundheit@...
 

I am researching our Polish family: surname Gesundheit in any
locality (Warsaw, Ciechanow), surname Cajtak (pronounced Tzaitak) in
Mlawa, and surname Madrzak (pronounced Mondzjak) in Mlawa as well. Any
information will be appreciated. Happy Pesach Holydays.

Sim Gesundheit

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JRI Poland #Poland Polish relatives #poland

sgesundheit@...
 

I am researching our Polish family: surname Gesundheit in any
locality (Warsaw, Ciechanow), surname Cajtak (pronounced Tzaitak) in
Mlawa, and surname Madrzak (pronounced Mondzjak) in Mlawa as well. Any
information will be appreciated. Happy Pesach Holydays.

Sim Gesundheit

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