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HERLITZ from Neisse, Frankfurt, and Marburg [was: please help Genner # 546778]

Renee Steinig
 

According to an 1898 marriage record on Ancestry, Fritz HERLITZ, born 1871, married Jettchen ROTHSCHILD, born 1874. Unless Fritz had a second (and younger wife), it's unlikely that he had a son who is still alive. Perhaps the Michael Herlitz whose name shows up in a Google search is a grandson or great-grandson, if related at all.

It's interesting to see that Fritz Herlitz's 1948 death record -- clearly the right Fritz -- says that his parents were Alfred and Gretel and that he was "konfessionloss" (had no religion). Perhaps Fritz and his family survived by passing as non-Jews.

Suggestion: Post also to JewishGen's "GerSIG" list. Some of its most knowledgeable subscribers are not on this list.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...

PS Ismar Herlitz was transported from Frankfurt to Kovno on Nov. 22, 1941. Two of my father's sisters, Sophie Stern and Toni Stern, were on the same train, which took over 900 Frankfurt Jews to what's now Kaunas, Lithuania. They were all shot to death on arrival, at the infamous Ninth Fort. A memorial to these victims was recently dedicated at the site: https://www.lzb.lt/en/2018/04/19/memorial-plaque-unveiled-on-ninth-fort-mass-murder-field/ . More information about the transport:


On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:18 AM Kathy Miller <kathyjmiller@...> wrote:
The oldest daughter of Israel Goldmann - Henriette - married Simon Herlitz. The couple had a lot of children and the two sons 
Hans (grandfather of Hanna, 1873-1942) and 
Ismar (1877-1941) went from Neisse to Frankfurt. 
The third brother in that region was Fritz Herlitz (1871 in Neisse - 1948 in Marburg). 
I don't know how and why he, his wife and his son survived WW2. He was Jewish, his wife was Jewish and the son was Jewish. Suddenly during WW2 the wife was no longer Jewish but protestant. I don't know why because  her birth certificate has been sited.  Her mother was Jewish without any doubt.
 
Family Herlitz moved from Frankfurt to Marburg during WW2, the son, Michael had a cinema after the war and they lived in Bahnhofsstrasse 22. 
Michael Herlitz lives in Bahnhofsstrasse 29, Marburg.
I've written to him with no response...does anyone out there know of this person or family?
Thanks in anticipation

Kathy

Dorohi cemetery (Romania)

Malka
 

Hello Genners,

 

I have been working on the Dorohoi Jewish Cemetery listing  and it is  now at 93%.  No further images are available.  I’ll be happy to complete the listing once I am informed that the rest of the images have been released.   Shalom, Malka

 

Re: Where is Politzk, Russia? #russsia #Lithuania

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Can it be Polotsk, Vitebsk gubernia, now Belarus?
best wishes
Elsebetb Paikin

Fall issue of AVOTAYANU

Gary Mokotoff
 

The Fall issue of AVOTAYANU will go to the printer this week. One unusual aspect of it is that it will be 76 pages—eight pages more than the usual size. This was triggered by an 18-page article about researching landsmanshaftn societies. Its importance is not so much about these societies but the genealogical methodology the author used to acquire information about these groups. Read it because it may make you aware of genealogical resources not previously known to you, or research techniques that might assist in other parts of your research.

 

The lead article is by IAJGS past president, Marlis Humphrey, about a new IAJGS venture to develop an online catalog of information about record collections of Jewish genealogical value. Emphasis will be to root out what AVOTAYNU editor, Sallyann Sack-Pikus, calls “second tier” records—records that have information about Jewish persons but are not obviously Jewish.

 

This article is followed by an article about facial recognition software. We all struggle with photos of family members taken at various times of their lives, and question whether a face in one picture is the same as another taken decades later. Facial recognition software can help with these decisions.

 

The third article focuses on solving genealogical photo mysteries. It is written by Ava Cohn, who has dubbed herself “Sherlock Cohn” and is a professional analyzer of photos. She can help you date family photos.

 

All told there are 11 articles plus the usual columns, From Our Contributing editors, U.S. Update, Ask Dr. Beider About Names, Brick Walls, Book Review and From Our Mailbox.

 

View the issue’s Table of Contents at http://avotaynu.com/2019FallPage01.pdf.

Additional information about AVTAYNU can be found at http://avotaynu.com/journal.htm.

 

Gary Mokotoff

 

Lithuanian gravestones #Help #Holocaust #Lithuania #advice

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman
 

Shalom Hevra:

Attached are poor copies of gravestone photographs taken in the old  Rumshishok (Rumsiskes) cemetery in 1940.  In the early 1950's the shtetl of Rumshishok and surrounding area was flooded in order to create the Kauno Marios.  Somehow just prior to the planned flooding, the shammas from Kovno arranged with the Soviet authorities to transfer the remains (but not the matzevos) from the old Rumshishok cemetery, and the killing ravine outside of town, to the Aleksotas cemetery in Kaunas.  To this day, I am in awe of this shammas for succeeding in this mitzva.  

I approach you today for two reasons.  First, for those who have AMAZING technical skills, please try and improve these photographic copies so we can read the matzevos.  The cemetery is long gone and this is all we have.  Second, and this one is a bit nutty, we found a 1944 aerial Luftwaffe photograph showing the exact latitude and longitude of the old Rumshishok cemetery.  Having this knowledge, we could send a diver down to see if the any of the matzevos survived.  Our hope is that a layer of silt may have covered the stones and protected the writing.  Your thoughts, expertise, ideas and potential plans are welcome.  

The aerial photograph, gravestone copies, and much more may be found at https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Rumsiskes

Thank you!

Rabbi Benzi Saydman
http://www.tolheritage.org

MAYPER, MAIPER, MELTSNER, MARCUS, AUG, NEVIAZHSKY, ROMM, KRULL, NUROCK, BEKER, LEVIN, SIEGEL, GORDON, RAPHAEL, CHIPKIN, WERNER, SATINSKY, RUBIN, STEINBERG, ISRAEL, NEWMAN, RODOFF, BOHLMAN, KANTER, MOISEIWITSCH, ROTFORT, SABSEVITZ, MITCHELL, MARCOVITZ, BLOCK, BLOCH  Rumsiskes, Bialystok, Telsiai, Kelem, Kaunas, Vilnius, Zasliai, Ariogala, Jerusalem, Manchester, New York, Philadelphia, Atlantic City

Re: Finding relatives #Hungary

Ron Hoenig
 

Vivian’s advice is very good. You might also be interested to know that ppl chose the name Bihari because it sounded less Jewish that many surnames (eg Beckmann) and refers to the county Hajdu-Bihar in Hungary in which lived or were born

finding ship manifest

Paulette Volgyesi
 


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Can anyone tell me where I can find the manifest for the Empress of France ship that sailed from Calais, France in December, 1956?
Thanks very much.

Re: please help Genner # 546778

David Lewin
 

At 11:37 AM 07-11-19, Kathy Miller wrote:
The oldest daughter of Israel Goldmann - Henriette - married Simon Herlitz. The couple had a lot of children and the two sonsÂ
Hans (grandfather of Hanna, 1873-1942) andÂ
Ismar (1877-1941) went from Neisse to Frankfurt.Â
The third brother in that region was Fritz Herlitz (1871 in Neisse - 1948 in Marburg).Â
I don't know how and why he, his wife and his son survived WW2. He was Jewish, his wife was Jewish and the son was Jewish. Suddenly during WW2 the wife was no longer Jewish but protestant. I don't know why because  her birth certificate has been sited.  Her mother was Jewish without any doubt.
Â
Family Herlitz moved from Frankfurt to Marburg during WW2, the son, Michael  had a cinema after the war and they lived in Bahnhofsstrasse 22.Â
Michael Herlitz lives in Bahnhofsstrasse 29Â , Marburg.
I've written to him with no response...does anyone out there know of this person or family?
Thanks in anticipation

Kathy


Have you tried www.telefonbuch.de  ?

The other thing to do is contact the civil registry authority

David Lewin
London

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at http://remember.org/unite/ and at http://searchandunite.org/

Findmypast Offers Free Access to Their Entire Collection of Military and Civilian Records Starting Friday November 8 Through Monday November 11th

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

Findmypast is offering free access to their entire collection of military and civilian records from 12 pm (GMT) Friday November 8th until 12PM Monday November 11th.  Please use the time converter to check the time in your time zone: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc  If you try to sign in before the promotion begins you will be invited to subscribe.

 

You will need to register with name, email address and password before you can access any search results.  Go to:

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This opportunity includes over 85 million military records covering the Armed Forces of the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland. Record range from service records and pensions to medal rolls, POW records, casualty lists and more.

 

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Note: the icon next to the record will tell you if it is the record or a transcript.

 

If you try to access the free records after the promotion is over you will be invited to subscribe.

 

I have no affiliation with Findmypast and am sharing this solely for the information of the reader.

 

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Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

Ancestry Free Access to Military records for Veterans Day November 8 through November 17

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

I have been given advance notice that starting on Friday, November 8  7:00 PM EST through November 17 at 11:59PM EST Ancestry will be offering free access to their over 260 million US military records.  Do NOT try to access the free collections before the time and date given as you will be invited to subscribe.

 

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When the featured collection is available go to:  www.ancestry.com/honor.

 

The list of collections is available to see at:

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To help honor our World War ll veterans go to: https://www.ancestry.com/cs/veterans  and help record the story of World War ll.  You can send Ancestry a video documenting the experiences of the war and preserve their history. With the massive 1973 fire in National Personnel Records Center this may be one of the only places future generations may learn of your family’s participation in World War ll. To read more about the 1973 fire see the National Archives blurb at: https://www.archives.gov/personnel-records-center/fire-1973

 

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At this time I do not know if the Ancestry websites in other countries will also be offering free access to their military records. If I learn of such offers they will be posted to this forum.

 

I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader.

 

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Looking for descendants of Jacob Josef (or Josef Jacob) Horoschowski

vez@...
 

Looking for possible descendants in Israel and elsewhere of Jacob Josef (or Josef Jacob) Horoschowski, born 1905 in Drohobych of Benzion Weber and Etie Horoschowska, or of his sisters Chaye Sarah or Matylda, one of whom was attempting to get to Palestine with him in 1927 from Vienna. My mother, born Genya Horoschowska in Vienna, was his youngest sister, born after their parents fled to Vienna in 1914 or early 1915. She was fostered and later adopted, all the other siblings went to the Jewish orphanage as their parents had got separated on the journey and their mother had no means of subsistence. We know he was trying to emigrate to what was then Palestine in 1927, with one of his other sisters, as he came to visit my mother to tell her (but was not allowed in, and they had no further contact). His children, or his sister's children, would be my first cousins, probably in their late 70s or 80s by now.

Where is Politzk, Russia? #russsia #Lithuania

lugin@...
 

My grandfather emigrated to New York City in 1913 (born in the early 1890's). I was told he was from Russia then I was told he was from Lithuania, as was msy grandmother (she was from Vilnius). His World War II registration card says he was born in "POLITZK, RUSSIA."  I cannot find this on the internet.  Does anyone know where this is or what it's called today?  Any help is appreciated.

NYC Area Volunteers for a Cemetery Project this Sunday

A. E. Jordan
 

Hi. We are planning Sunday morning to begin photographing the Judah plot at Mt Zion in Queens New York

Anyone who is interested in helping please email me privately. Could use more photographers and maybe someone to take notes

Details below

Thanks 

Allan Jordan



-----Original Message-----
From: A. E. Jordan <aejordan@...>
To: main <main@...>
Sent: Wed, Oct 30, 2019 09:51 AM
Subject: NYC Area Volunteers for a Cemetery Project


I am trying to organize a cemetery project for Mt Zion Cemetery in Maspeth, Queens, New York before winter sets in (or if we fail now in the spring).

I am thinking of trying to do this (weather dependent) November 10th or November 17 -- a Sunday morning.  Roads will be quieter to drive there and hopefully the weather will not be too cold.  Plus the target plot is in about as good a condition as it will be.

Looking a for a few volunteers with the primary interest being people with a digital camera to take photos and maybe a few people to do some paperwork on site.  (Phase II might require some computer work volunteers.)  Note there are NO PATHS so it is involving walking over uneven ground, possibly climbing over or around stones, etc. and there will be some wildlife -- those tiny lizards, squirrels, and who knows.  I say this so if you are hesitant please don't volunteer although I have been though this plot a few dozen times and not had a problem with animals and maybe stumbled but never fallen.  I consider it safe but of course you are at your own risk.

The idea is there is a large plot (2,700 graves) at Mt Zion which seems to have constant interest from people but which the cemetery office has no map and limited details.  The plot is called Judah 1 and it is very challenging to find individual graves without the map because it is not one plot but actually a series of sub sections within the big plot.  Also since the burial society is long defunct the plot gets less maintenance but right now is clean cut and of course will stay that way till spring.

While the database say 2,700 stones the reality is the project will yield less since there are two large areas of children's stones that will yield little and some stones have fallen or are unreadable.  There are a few interesting and unique stones in the plot too.

My idea is volunteers will take sections of the plot and photograph every stone.  You will have to make some indications as you go to local or rows and then we can match the names and stones up and maybe even draw a map of this plot.  The individual lines are fairly small so you will do a few lines, starting from the same side and indicating when each row ends.  Final result will take some time to compile after we leave the cemetery but then we can load it to JOWBR as a gift to the broader community and if we draw a map maybe even give it to Mt Zion for their future reference.

This will be all volunteer but someone offered to buy coffee for the intrepid researchers and I am offering my time (hopefully expertise) to organize it.

If you can assist please email me directly.

Thank you

Allan Jordan


Re: grave on Mt. Of Olives

Jeff at SG
 

Sadly the English version of the search page is blank and unusable.
The Hebrew version works.

Jeff Malka

Re: Surnames: Palumbo - SIcily/ Homer - Poland

Jill Whitehead
 

Hello,

One of my mother's Wigram cousins of Sheffield UK married a Palumbo, and their descendant is a member of the Uk House of Lords - Lord Jamie Palumbo. I have never met him and he does not respond to family contacts as per a family reunion held in 2015 for my mother's mother's Guttenberg/Graham family. The Palumbos are not Jewish, as far as we know. The Palumbos are on my Ancestry family tree and can be viewed there.

please help Genner # 546778

Kathy Miller
 

The oldest daughter of Israel Goldmann - Henriette - married Simon Herlitz. The couple had a lot of children and the two sons 
Hans (grandfather of Hanna, 1873-1942) and 
Ismar (1877-1941) went from Neisse to Frankfurt. 
The third brother in that region was Fritz Herlitz (1871 in Neisse - 1948 in Marburg). 
I don't know how and why he, his wife and his son survived WW2. He was Jewish, his wife was Jewish and the son was Jewish. Suddenly during WW2 the wife was no longer Jewish but protestant. I don't know why because  her birth certificate has been sited.  Her mother was Jewish without any doubt.
 
Family Herlitz moved from Frankfurt to Marburg during WW2, the son, Michael  had a cinema after the war and they lived in Bahnhofsstrasse 22. 
Michael Herlitz lives in Bahnhofsstrasse 29 , Marburg.
I've written to him with no response...does anyone out there know of this person or family?
Thanks in anticipation

Kathy


 

BADER Emma

Amit N
 

Dear all,

I am trying to crack open a black hole, with no luck so far.
My grandmother's uncle was married to a woman who according to the
family knowledge took her life at some point. I have succeeded to find
her maiden name this week. She was Dr. SPITZER Istvanne Szul BADER
Emma.
I can tell they were married before 1900, and that she died sometime
between 1910's-1930's. They lived in Sombor (Zombor in Hungarian,
nowadays Serbia).
I thought that such a case would appear on newspapers, but couldn't
find anything in Hungaricana.hu. I don't read Hungarian, so that's
another impediment...A JewishGen search also did not show results.
Do you have any idea on how to break this wall and find some
information about her and her untimely death?

Thank you all,
Amit Naor
Israel

my book about great-grandparents escape from Nazi Germany overland to Shanghai

Epitaph Of No Words
 

 

Good day

 

I have launched my book through the Holocaust and Genocide Centre in Cape T= own. It is the story of my great-grandparents, Emil and Martha Galliner who=  lived in Shanghai from 1941-1947.

During my research I was assisted by jewishgen who asked that I let them kn= ow when the book is published.

 

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Emil and Martha=E2=80=99s around-the-world journey lasted from 1938-1960. I= t began on 10 June 1941 with travelling on the Trans-Siberian Railway, then=  sailing to Shanghai where they were ghettoized by the Japanese. They went = subsequently to the US, assisted by the Hilfskomittees, then to South West = Africa (Namibia), and finally to Johannesburg.

Their story, esta= blished through affidavits, testimonials, postcards, poetry and photographs, records thei= r trauma in the most direct voice.

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my book about great-grandparents escape from Nazi Germany overland to Shanghai

Epitaph Of No Words
 

Good day

 

I have launched my book through the Holocaust and Genocide Centre in Cape T= own. It is the story of my great-grandparents, Emil and Martha Galliner who=  lived in Shanghai from 1941-1947.

During my research I was assisted by jewishgen who asked that I let them kn= ow when the book is published.

 

Epitaph Of No Words =E2=80=93 Written by Jeanine Hack. Finsterwalde, Berlin= , Shanghai, San Francisco, Chicago, Windhoek, Johannesburg:

My maternal great-grandparents Emil and Martha Galliner delayed leaving Naz= i Germany until more than three years after Kristallnacht. When they eventu= ally made the heart-rending decision to go, it meant leaving their oldest d= aughter Hanna behind.

Emil and Martha=E2=80=99s around-the-world journey lasted from 1938-1960. I= t began on 10 June 1941 with travelling on the Trans-Siberian Railway, then=  sailing to Shanghai where they were ghettoized by the Japanese. They went = subsequently to the US, assisted by the Hilfskomittees, then to South West = Africa (Namibia), and finally to Johannesburg.

Their story, esta= blished through affidavits, testimonials, postcards, poetry and photographs, records thei= r trauma in the most direct voice.

Print: Full colour single-sided cover, 286 pages (182b/w, 104pp full colou= r). A5 Size. RSP Price: R280 ZAR

 

 


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Cemeteries in Israel

blankdavid@...
 

New app for cell phone.   GRAVEZ

Able to search all cemeteries in Israel.

Great app

David Blank
Jerusalem