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Re: The name ROSE #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/15/2006 4:56:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rnwoolf@... writes:

< Also (in terms of first or given names) -
Frumit - Flora
and
Etta - Hetty (often anglicized as Esther) >

==Not eexactly anglicized. Esther is Biblical. It isn't Hebrew but a form
of the widely worshipped goddess Astarte. It was, though, a very popular
name for Jewish women and was often distorted into the German and Yiddish form
Etta.

==So your aunt didn't exactly anglicize her name; she just took back the
original Biblical form.

==Incidentally, Rosa, and diminutives like Reyzeleh, were very common names
for Jewish Ashkenazi women. The Jewish Bible does not have too many women's
names, and with a few exceptions like Chaya and Nechama, Ashkenazi Jews did not
create "Jewish" names for their daughters but adapted and adopted common
Christian names for their daughters.

==My Frankfurt-born pgm, of a wealthy and prominent, highly cultured and
highly Orthodox family was named Rosa; her tombstone lists her in Hebrew as
Reyzeleh. Her mother was Babette, her grandmother was Fradche (>from Frieda) . . .

Michael Bernet, New York

Searching: CHAVATSIK,CHAVALICK,QUACHIK from Vinnitsa -> UK & USA? #general

StephenChaffey@...
 

Hello
I have been searching in vain now for a long time for info on my
ggrandmothers family. They came >from Vinnitsa and there were
many sisters & brothers. Most died in Russia but I know that a
few emigrated, possibly the US or Mexico. The problem I'm
encountering is that I think the surnames I have must be spelt
incorrectly as I can find no trace of them on any database. The
marriage cert says CHAVATSIK, fathers name CHAVALICK. Her
maiden name on her childrens birth certs varies >from QUACHIK to
SWARCHIK. Do these sound like typical Jewish/Russian surnames?
If anyone has heard or knows of these surnames (or anything similar)
it would be a great help and may help in my search for the long
lost siblings.
Many thanks
Michelle Chaffey
London, UK

Private replies please

Searching: CHAVATSIK,CHAVALICK,QUACHIK,SWARCHIK >from
Vinnitsa, DRUBITCH, DRUBYCH, DOLBITCH >from Kyyiv (Kiev)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name ROSE #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/15/2006 4:56:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rnwoolf@... writes:

< Also (in terms of first or given names) -
Frumit - Flora
and
Etta - Hetty (often anglicized as Esther) >

==Not eexactly anglicized. Esther is Biblical. It isn't Hebrew but a form
of the widely worshipped goddess Astarte. It was, though, a very popular
name for Jewish women and was often distorted into the German and Yiddish form
Etta.

==So your aunt didn't exactly anglicize her name; she just took back the
original Biblical form.

==Incidentally, Rosa, and diminutives like Reyzeleh, were very common names
for Jewish Ashkenazi women. The Jewish Bible does not have too many women's
names, and with a few exceptions like Chaya and Nechama, Ashkenazi Jews did not
create "Jewish" names for their daughters but adapted and adopted common
Christian names for their daughters.

==My Frankfurt-born pgm, of a wealthy and prominent, highly cultured and
highly Orthodox family was named Rosa; her tombstone lists her in Hebrew as
Reyzeleh. Her mother was Babette, her grandmother was Fradche (>from Frieda) . . .

Michael Bernet, New York

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: CHAVATSIK,CHAVALICK,QUACHIK from Vinnitsa -> UK & USA? #general

StephenChaffey@...
 

Hello
I have been searching in vain now for a long time for info on my
ggrandmothers family. They came >from Vinnitsa and there were
many sisters & brothers. Most died in Russia but I know that a
few emigrated, possibly the US or Mexico. The problem I'm
encountering is that I think the surnames I have must be spelt
incorrectly as I can find no trace of them on any database. The
marriage cert says CHAVATSIK, fathers name CHAVALICK. Her
maiden name on her childrens birth certs varies >from QUACHIK to
SWARCHIK. Do these sound like typical Jewish/Russian surnames?
If anyone has heard or knows of these surnames (or anything similar)
it would be a great help and may help in my search for the long
lost siblings.
Many thanks
Michelle Chaffey
London, UK

Private replies please

Searching: CHAVATSIK,CHAVALICK,QUACHIK,SWARCHIK >from
Vinnitsa, DRUBITCH, DRUBYCH, DOLBITCH >from Kyyiv (Kiev)

Re: SZKLAR-SHKLAR-SKLAR-SKOLNICK #belarus

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

Arnold Asked about a Sklar/ Shklar family >from Kurenets.Tzirka nee
Alperovitz, a first cousin of my grandfather, the daughter of his fathers'
sister >from the Gurevitz/Alperovitz family, married Moshe Leib Shklar in
Kurenets. The family could be found on "family tree of the Jewish
people". They had a son; Zalman Shklar. Many family members ( >from the
Alperovitz side) perished in the Holocaust. Zalman and his mother escaped
during the day of the killing in Kurenets ( 9-9- 1942). They ran to the
deep forest and survived there hiding for 2 years. Later they came to
Israel and Zalman was married and had 2 children. Tzirka passed away in
the 1980s'.

Zalman gave reports to Yad Vashem in 1991 for his grandmother; Yitka Chaia
Shklar (nee Fidler). There is also a report for Yitzhak Shklar >from Vilna
by his son; Reuven. Also there was a Shklar family ( Yitzhak) who perished
in the shtetl Krivichi next to Kurenets. There are 32 reports for
Sz/S/Shklars >from the area of Vilna.

To find information about anyone >from kurenets you should write to Shimon
Zimerman ( a Kurenets native the head of Kfar Harif, Israel). He is also
the head of the Kurenets society in Israel. As many Jews >from the Kurenets
area settled in New Haven, CT c 1900, many who came >from the area more
recently ( about 16 years ago) settled in Kfar Harif, Israel.

Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles
For pictures and information of Kurenets go to;
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/kurenets/kurenets.html
www.eilatgordinlevitan.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please write to Eilat privately for contact
information for Mr. Zimerman

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: SZKLAR-SHKLAR-SKLAR-SKOLNICK #lithuania

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

Arnold Asked about a Sklar/ Shklar family >from Kurenets.Tzirka nee
Alperovitz, a first cousin of my grandfather, the daughter of his fathers'
sister >from the Gurevitz/Alperovitz family, married Moshe Leib Shklar in
Kurenets. The family could be found on "family tree of the Jewish
people". They had a son; Zalman Shklar. Many family members ( >from the
Alperovitz side) perished in the Holocaust. Zalman and his mother escaped
during the day of the killing in Kurenets ( 9-9- 1942). They ran to the
deep forest and survived there hiding for 2 years. Later they came to
Israel and Zalman was married and had 2 children. Tzirka passed away in
the 1980s'.

Zalman gave reports to Yad Vashem in 1991 for his grandmother; Yitka Chaia
Shklar (nee Fidler). There is also a report for Yitzhak Shklar >from Vilna
by his son; Reuven. Also there was a Shklar family ( Yitzhak) who perished
in the shtetl Krivichi next to Kurenets. There are 32 reports for
Sz/S/Shklars >from the area of Vilna.

To find information about anyone >from kurenets you should write to Shimon
Zimerman ( a Kurenets native the head of Kfar Harif, Israel). He is also
the head of the Kurenets society in Israel. As many Jews >from the Kurenets
area settled in New Haven, CT c 1900, many who came >from the area more
recently ( about 16 years ago) settled in Kfar Harif, Israel.

Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles
For pictures and information of Kurenets go to;
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/kurenets/kurenets.html
www.eilatgordinlevitan.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please write to Eilat privately for contact
information for Mr. Zimerman

Re: STERLING #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Adonica Hernandez Sterling >from Spain writes to ask
about the STERLING family and their origins.

Here are my comments:

1. My strong suspicion is that this STERLING family
was not >from Austria, Bohemia or Moravia but from
Poland or perhaps Russia - this sadly can be confirmed
on Yad Vashem where you will find 22 STERLING entries,
mainly >from Poland [especially Warsaw] with Pages of
Testimony [one in France with an address] - which can
all be followed up. If however you enter the word
SHTERLING in an "advanced search with synonyms" on Yad
vashem you find 74 hits, many >from Lodz and Bialystock
as well: <http://www.yadvashem.org>

SHTERLING SZTERLING SZTELING SZTRLING SCHTERLING

Here is a recent death in California {SSDI}:

Pessa K. SZTERLING dd mm year mm 1990 city, L.A.

2. Adonica writes about her great-grandfather who was
Johann STERLING born in 1859 married to Karoline
PULMANN. It is said he had his name changed and the
family had a kosher household and spoke yiddish.

I cannot comment on the circumstances of the name
change but if I were called SILBER [or variants] - I
can quite easily see how I would change my name to
Sterling! Sterling silver is known the world over.

However there was a yiddish actor in London called L.
SHTERLING - who changed his name to L. STERLING so
that may be another clue [and see point 1 above for
other possible "original" names].

You can even see a Millja SHTERLING marrying in London
in 1896 on the free bmd records: Millja SHTERLING 1896
Jan-Feb-Mar London City London, Middlesex

3. Here is a confusing article about a catholic
STERLING family and WW2 [they may also have been
converts]:

http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/981016/alyce.shtml

4. The SIG message archives reveals Deborah L STERLING
who was a member of the Ukraine SIG in 2001.

5. Here is the story [The International Raoul
Wallenberg Foundation] of a STERLING family who was
saved in the war by a catholic family

http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/english/Saviors/POLONIA/lv.htm


6. And here is a SHTERLING who has written in an
Yizkor book >from the Ukraine: [search for his name in
the contents pages]:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Radekhov/Radekhov.html

7. There were definitely STERLING immigrants to
England - two each >from Russia and Germany can be
found in the 1901 census and 5 >from Russia and 3 from
German in the 1891 census. Poland does not appear as a
country of origin. There are no STERLING immigrants to
be found in England in the 1881 census. They probably
changed their names on arrival. I have no
free access to the US censues but the one free
federal census of 1880 reveals no immigrants named
STERLING.

Conclusion: Adonica is not the only Jewish STERLING in
this world - whether they are all related, I have no
idea, but again I doubt it. There also is no reason to
believe there is a mystery behind this family name as
Adonica suggests: <I suspect there is a secret in the
family and have no support >from my German relatives>

... the family history may just have been forgotten or
buried after the traumas of the holocaust, where many
were murdered.

I think a posting to Jri-pl or the General Discussion
Group may be more fruitful. I hope I am wrong, but I
feel instinctively that the Austria-Czech group will
be a lost cause for family links.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: STERLING #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Adonica Hernandez Sterling >from Spain writes to ask
about the STERLING family and their origins.

Here are my comments:

1. My strong suspicion is that this STERLING family
was not >from Austria, Bohemia or Moravia but from
Poland or perhaps Russia - this sadly can be confirmed
on Yad Vashem where you will find 22 STERLING entries,
mainly >from Poland [especially Warsaw] with Pages of
Testimony [one in France with an address] - which can
all be followed up. If however you enter the word
SHTERLING in an "advanced search with synonyms" on Yad
vashem you find 74 hits, many >from Lodz and Bialystock
as well: <http://www.yadvashem.org>

SHTERLING SZTERLING SZTELING SZTRLING SCHTERLING

Here is a recent death in California {SSDI}:

Pessa K. SZTERLING dd mm year mm 1990 city, L.A.

2. Adonica writes about her great-grandfather who was
Johann STERLING born in 1859 married to Karoline
PULMANN. It is said he had his name changed and the
family had a kosher household and spoke yiddish.

I cannot comment on the circumstances of the name
change but if I were called SILBER [or variants] - I
can quite easily see how I would change my name to
Sterling! Sterling silver is known the world over.

However there was a yiddish actor in London called L.
SHTERLING - who changed his name to L. STERLING so
that may be another clue [and see point 1 above for
other possible "original" names].

You can even see a Millja SHTERLING marrying in London
in 1896 on the free bmd records: Millja SHTERLING 1896
Jan-Feb-Mar London City London, Middlesex

3. Here is a confusing article about a catholic
STERLING family and WW2 [they may also have been
converts]:

http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/981016/alyce.shtml

4. The SIG message archives reveals Deborah L STERLING
who was a member of the Ukraine SIG in 2001.

5. Here is the story [The International Raoul
Wallenberg Foundation] of a STERLING family who was
saved in the war by a catholic family

http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/english/Saviors/POLONIA/lv.htm


6. And here is a SHTERLING who has written in an
Yizkor book >from the Ukraine: [search for his name in
the contents pages]:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Radekhov/Radekhov.html

7. There were definitely STERLING immigrants to
England - two each >from Russia and Germany can be
found in the 1901 census and 5 >from Russia and 3 from
German in the 1891 census. Poland does not appear as a
country of origin. There are no STERLING immigrants to
be found in England in the 1881 census. They probably
changed their names on arrival. I have no
free access to the US censues but the one free
federal census of 1880 reveals no immigrants named
STERLING.

Conclusion: Adonica is not the only Jewish STERLING in
this world - whether they are all related, I have no
idea, but again I doubt it. There also is no reason to
believe there is a mystery behind this family name as
Adonica suggests: <I suspect there is a secret in the
family and have no support >from my German relatives>

... the family history may just have been forgotten or
buried after the traumas of the holocaust, where many
were murdered.

I think a posting to Jri-pl or the General Discussion
Group may be more fruitful. I hope I am wrong, but I
feel instinctively that the Austria-Czech group will
be a lost cause for family links.

Celia Male [U.K.]

SZKLAR-SHKLAR-SKLAR-SKOLNICK #belarus

Arnold Rabinowitz <Arnold.Rabinowitz@...>
 

Recently had an old (1910 or 20's) letter translated >from Hebrew (so
spellings could be off)(Kurents area ?) and here's what I think I deduced:

1. Letter is written or dictated by Leah SKLAR (married to David SKLAR)
2. To her sister Rochl (whose husband (ZUSSMAN) stated on her death cert
that her father's name was Aaron SKOLNICK)
3. Leah had six children
Yitzchak(M)-lost or disappeared in the war
Yehudis(F)-married & emigrated to USA
Zvulun(?)-living in Luksiai, Sakiai, Lithuania
Arken(M)-(called him Swindler) emigrated to USA
Chana(F)-married to Asher KAPLAN and living near parents
Melach(M)-married & emigrated to USA

Leah states that Yehudis,Arken & Melach "should write me a letter and tell
me how they are if they have a drop of Yiddishkeit"

Does anything tie in to your family history?

Arnold Rabinowitz
Arnold.Rabinowitz@...
MODERATOR NOTE: Please sign all future messages with your location! Also please
capitalize only surnames.

Belarus SIG #Belarus SZKLAR-SHKLAR-SKLAR-SKOLNICK #belarus

Arnold Rabinowitz <Arnold.Rabinowitz@...>
 

Recently had an old (1910 or 20's) letter translated >from Hebrew (so
spellings could be off)(Kurents area ?) and here's what I think I deduced:

1. Letter is written or dictated by Leah SKLAR (married to David SKLAR)
2. To her sister Rochl (whose husband (ZUSSMAN) stated on her death cert
that her father's name was Aaron SKOLNICK)
3. Leah had six children
Yitzchak(M)-lost or disappeared in the war
Yehudis(F)-married & emigrated to USA
Zvulun(?)-living in Luksiai, Sakiai, Lithuania
Arken(M)-(called him Swindler) emigrated to USA
Chana(F)-married to Asher KAPLAN and living near parents
Melach(M)-married & emigrated to USA

Leah states that Yehudis,Arken & Melach "should write me a letter and tell
me how they are if they have a drop of Yiddishkeit"

Does anything tie in to your family history?

Arnold Rabinowitz
Arnold.Rabinowitz@...
MODERATOR NOTE: Please sign all future messages with your location! Also please
capitalize only surnames.

Gaertner #austria-czech

George Beykovsky <beykovsky@...>
 

I am interested in archives/data regarding Gustav GAERTNER, Pthalogist
born Sept 26, 1855 and died in Vienna April 11, 1937.
He earned full profesorship in his field and invented many processes
still used today regarding milk and its dietary benefits.

Possibly you can assist me in a source of his biography and professional resume.

Thanks for any assistance.

George Beykovsky
Everett, WA
email: beykovsky@...

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Gaertner #austria-czech

George Beykovsky <beykovsky@...>
 

I am interested in archives/data regarding Gustav GAERTNER, Pthalogist
born Sept 26, 1855 and died in Vienna April 11, 1937.
He earned full profesorship in his field and invented many processes
still used today regarding milk and its dietary benefits.

Possibly you can assist me in a source of his biography and professional resume.

Thanks for any assistance.

George Beykovsky
Everett, WA
email: beykovsky@...

Re: Census Kolodeje 1793 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Ludwig Marbach asks for details of families with the
names MARBACH, LOWY [umlaut], FASSLER [umlaut],
FRANKEL [umlaut] and FRIED in Kalladey/Kolodeje nad
Luznici in 1793. Ludwig also asks for POLLAK but is
not sure if this is the right family.

Kalladey is unusual in the Bohemian census of 1793 as
ages are given in many instances. The article in The
Jews and Jewish Communities of Bohemia [Hugo
Gold]looks informative but unfortunately is in Czech.

A: MARBACH - There is one family called MANBACH
[second-hand dealer] Sigmund aged 31 with wife Rosa
and baby son Abraham, just one year old

The name may be a mistranscription or could perhaps
have mutated over the years.

B: LOWY - Kalladey has four LOVI families [umlaut]:

1. Moises LOVI aged 50 [fabric dealer] - wife Rosa
[48]; son Abraham [13]; three daughters 25, 23 and 17
and single brother Isac [54].

2. Aron LOVI aged 70 [fabric dealer]; wife Katharina
[43] and unmarried sons Joachim [34] and Samuel [23]
and daughter Sara [no age given].

3. Salamon LOVI aged 42 [fabric dealer], wife Barbara
[40] and sons Joachim [15]; Jakob [10] and daughter
Ewa [4].

4. Jakob LOVI aged 62 [dealer], wife Margaretha [59]
unmarried sons Isack [23] and Tobias [20] and daughter
Barbara [21] - a fairly wealthy family.

C: FASSLER - there is one family - Tobias, a
Bierschanker aged 67 - wife Sara aged 62 and sons
Marcus [20] and daughter Franzl [24].

D: FRANKEL None - but one FRANK

E: FRIED - David FRIED [46]; wife Rosalia [43] and
four sons Eliakim [19]; Feith [8]; Joachim [4] Israel
[2].

F: POLAK [sic] - is one POLAK family: David POLAK [73]
wife Susana [70] and three daughters, presumably
unmarried, a 29, 27 and 25 and unusually a
grand-daughter - little Ludmilla aged 5, but we do not
know who the father or mother is.

Jewish Census of Bohemia; 20 Jan. 1793 Vol 1 p. 242-
254 Kalladey - Budweiser Kreis

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnotes: See -

1. Randy Schoenberg's articles on our own website
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/towns/kolodeje/
and Eric ZEISL [wall of fame]
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/wallfame1.html

2 Familianten names >from Kalladey [thanks to Julius
Muller]: http://www.toledot.org/ihbf26.htm

MARBACH LOWY FASSLER FRIED and POLLAK are all listed
-no listing for FRANKEL.

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Census Kolodeje 1793 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Ludwig Marbach asks for details of families with the
names MARBACH, LOWY [umlaut], FASSLER [umlaut],
FRANKEL [umlaut] and FRIED in Kalladey/Kolodeje nad
Luznici in 1793. Ludwig also asks for POLLAK but is
not sure if this is the right family.

Kalladey is unusual in the Bohemian census of 1793 as
ages are given in many instances. The article in The
Jews and Jewish Communities of Bohemia [Hugo
Gold]looks informative but unfortunately is in Czech.

A: MARBACH - There is one family called MANBACH
[second-hand dealer] Sigmund aged 31 with wife Rosa
and baby son Abraham, just one year old

The name may be a mistranscription or could perhaps
have mutated over the years.

B: LOWY - Kalladey has four LOVI families [umlaut]:

1. Moises LOVI aged 50 [fabric dealer] - wife Rosa
[48]; son Abraham [13]; three daughters 25, 23 and 17
and single brother Isac [54].

2. Aron LOVI aged 70 [fabric dealer]; wife Katharina
[43] and unmarried sons Joachim [34] and Samuel [23]
and daughter Sara [no age given].

3. Salamon LOVI aged 42 [fabric dealer], wife Barbara
[40] and sons Joachim [15]; Jakob [10] and daughter
Ewa [4].

4. Jakob LOVI aged 62 [dealer], wife Margaretha [59]
unmarried sons Isack [23] and Tobias [20] and daughter
Barbara [21] - a fairly wealthy family.

C: FASSLER - there is one family - Tobias, a
Bierschanker aged 67 - wife Sara aged 62 and sons
Marcus [20] and daughter Franzl [24].

D: FRANKEL None - but one FRANK

E: FRIED - David FRIED [46]; wife Rosalia [43] and
four sons Eliakim [19]; Feith [8]; Joachim [4] Israel
[2].

F: POLAK [sic] - is one POLAK family: David POLAK [73]
wife Susana [70] and three daughters, presumably
unmarried, a 29, 27 and 25 and unusually a
grand-daughter - little Ludmilla aged 5, but we do not
know who the father or mother is.

Jewish Census of Bohemia; 20 Jan. 1793 Vol 1 p. 242-
254 Kalladey - Budweiser Kreis

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnotes: See -

1. Randy Schoenberg's articles on our own website
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/towns/kolodeje/
and Eric ZEISL [wall of fame]
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/wallfame1.html

2 Familianten names >from Kalladey [thanks to Julius
Muller]: http://www.toledot.org/ihbf26.htm

MARBACH LOWY FASSLER FRIED and POLLAK are all listed
-no listing for FRANKEL.

search #france

Bernadette Hildeilfinger <berna.hildeilfinger@...>
 

Hello,
i'm sorry , but it's more one year ago, i'm subscribe in jewichgen.org
. I try to find some news about my grandmother. Her name was Georgette
HILDEILFINGER. She borned in 1994. She was living in Brazil and came in
Paris France where she gave birth to my father in 1914. My big question
IS where's >from my name before to travel ?
Germany Liechenstein?
France Alsace ...?
Swistzerland?
Nobody help me on this way.
I"d search with wery fair people in latimsig.But they can't do nothing
before i'd find the origin of departure of my family.
I'm know my grandmother 's grandparents where living in Brazil in 1914.
I wrote since more one year on all sigs.germany, Swiss.,poland, holland
IS ANYBODY CAN HELP ME PLEASE< WHERE CAN I FIND MY NAME HILDEILFINGER
THANK"S A LOT !!
berna.hildeilfinger@...

French SIG #France search #france

Bernadette Hildeilfinger <berna.hildeilfinger@...>
 

Hello,
i'm sorry , but it's more one year ago, i'm subscribe in jewichgen.org
. I try to find some news about my grandmother. Her name was Georgette
HILDEILFINGER. She borned in 1994. She was living in Brazil and came in
Paris France where she gave birth to my father in 1914. My big question
IS where's >from my name before to travel ?
Germany Liechenstein?
France Alsace ...?
Swistzerland?
Nobody help me on this way.
I"d search with wery fair people in latimsig.But they can't do nothing
before i'd find the origin of departure of my family.
I'm know my grandmother 's grandparents where living in Brazil in 1914.
I wrote since more one year on all sigs.germany, Swiss.,poland, holland
IS ANYBODY CAN HELP ME PLEASE< WHERE CAN I FIND MY NAME HILDEILFINGER
THANK"S A LOT !!
berna.hildeilfinger@...

my great-great-grandfather from Alsace, France #france

Wanda Iliff <wanda_wonderer@...>
 

My name is Wanda Lynne Nestlehutt Iliff. I am hoping
to find out information about my
great-great-grandfather Peter Nestlehutt who was born
in Alsace Lorraine in 1825. He immigrated to the USA
and by 1860 was on the census for Coweta County,
Georgia. His father may have been named William
Nestlehutt who was born in 1800 and also immigrated to
the USA but lived in Indiana. (William Nestlehutt
might be Peter's uncle... we are not sure.)

The name Nestlehutt or Nestelhut is very unusual.
All the Nestlehutt's in the USA are related >from the
same family that immigrated >from Alsace Lorraine.

I would like to find out the connection to the family
in France.

Currently, I live in Copperas Cove, Texas but I am
originally >from the Atlanta, Georgia area.

I would be grateful for any suggestions or help.

Thank you,

Wanda Nestlehutt Iliff
Copperas Cove, Texas

Revue du Cercle de Genealogie Juive, # 85 #france

Ernest Kallmann
 

The last issue (# 85) is finally off the press. Here is the summary:

Pierre KATZ, the well-known Alsatian genealogist, has very recently left
all of us in sorrow. He was among many other feats, the finder of the
1808 name adoption lists and the author of their compilation, an
indispensable research tool for all those searching their ancestors in
Alsace and Lorraine.

FAMILIES

PASCAL FAUSTINI stresses the prominent role of Jewish entrepreneurs in
the iron industry during the 18th century in Sarre, transforming a
profitable craftsmanship into a real industry. They often became tenants
and managers of the smithies owned by the counts of Nassau-Saarbrücken
and so built up their wealth. Family trees of the main families involved
are shown as well as the connections between them.

MISCELLANEOUS

EVE-LINE BLUM cites several books by local historians (Dordogne,
Charente-Maritime) containing information about deportees and Shoah
victims that are not available at the Departement Archive. In another
section, she tells how she traced a family Greif deported in convoys 71
and 73 to Auschwitz thanks to several linked Internet correspondents.

ELIANE ROOS-SCHUHL analyzes the Schwindratzheim (Northern Alsace)
Memorbuch of 1786. The original manuscript is kept at the Jewish
Theological Seminary of America. She identifies the copyists and the
sponsorer Nephtali Hirtzel Jacob.

BERNARD LYON-CAEN tabulates and compares the data appearing in A. A.
Fraenckel's book and in the journal Bergha for the Jewish marriage
contracts in Uffholtz in the 18th century.

Philippe DANAN gives the list of the 148 Jews paying the wool tax in
Algiers in 1832 as published in the Moniteur Algerien in its March 1832
issue. This tax was levied on the indigenous Jews and Muslims. The
amount of the taxes sheds a light on the economic situation of the
Jewish community at the time.

RECENT EVENTS

GEORGES GRANER, in ">from the webmaster", details the uses of the search
engine available on our website since January 2006.

BASILE GINGER shows how the members of our society can be assisted when
searching for a naturalization docket.

Our library now hosts gravestone lists >from Jewish cemeteries in
France, compiled by various members, and the description of the content
of a CD-ROM about the Jewish communities of Bayonne and Saint-Esprit in
the 18th and early 19th centuries.

Ernest Kallmann
Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Paris, France _ www.genealoj.org_
Please send messages and questions to: office@...

French SIG #France my great-great-grandfather from Alsace, France #france

Wanda Iliff <wanda_wonderer@...>
 

My name is Wanda Lynne Nestlehutt Iliff. I am hoping
to find out information about my
great-great-grandfather Peter Nestlehutt who was born
in Alsace Lorraine in 1825. He immigrated to the USA
and by 1860 was on the census for Coweta County,
Georgia. His father may have been named William
Nestlehutt who was born in 1800 and also immigrated to
the USA but lived in Indiana. (William Nestlehutt
might be Peter's uncle... we are not sure.)

The name Nestlehutt or Nestelhut is very unusual.
All the Nestlehutt's in the USA are related >from the
same family that immigrated >from Alsace Lorraine.

I would like to find out the connection to the family
in France.

Currently, I live in Copperas Cove, Texas but I am
originally >from the Atlanta, Georgia area.

I would be grateful for any suggestions or help.

Thank you,

Wanda Nestlehutt Iliff
Copperas Cove, Texas

French SIG #France Revue du Cercle de Genealogie Juive, # 85 #france

Ernest Kallmann
 

The last issue (# 85) is finally off the press. Here is the summary:

Pierre KATZ, the well-known Alsatian genealogist, has very recently left
all of us in sorrow. He was among many other feats, the finder of the
1808 name adoption lists and the author of their compilation, an
indispensable research tool for all those searching their ancestors in
Alsace and Lorraine.

FAMILIES

PASCAL FAUSTINI stresses the prominent role of Jewish entrepreneurs in
the iron industry during the 18th century in Sarre, transforming a
profitable craftsmanship into a real industry. They often became tenants
and managers of the smithies owned by the counts of Nassau-Saarbrücken
and so built up their wealth. Family trees of the main families involved
are shown as well as the connections between them.

MISCELLANEOUS

EVE-LINE BLUM cites several books by local historians (Dordogne,
Charente-Maritime) containing information about deportees and Shoah
victims that are not available at the Departement Archive. In another
section, she tells how she traced a family Greif deported in convoys 71
and 73 to Auschwitz thanks to several linked Internet correspondents.

ELIANE ROOS-SCHUHL analyzes the Schwindratzheim (Northern Alsace)
Memorbuch of 1786. The original manuscript is kept at the Jewish
Theological Seminary of America. She identifies the copyists and the
sponsorer Nephtali Hirtzel Jacob.

BERNARD LYON-CAEN tabulates and compares the data appearing in A. A.
Fraenckel's book and in the journal Bergha for the Jewish marriage
contracts in Uffholtz in the 18th century.

Philippe DANAN gives the list of the 148 Jews paying the wool tax in
Algiers in 1832 as published in the Moniteur Algerien in its March 1832
issue. This tax was levied on the indigenous Jews and Muslims. The
amount of the taxes sheds a light on the economic situation of the
Jewish community at the time.

RECENT EVENTS

GEORGES GRANER, in ">from the webmaster", details the uses of the search
engine available on our website since January 2006.

BASILE GINGER shows how the members of our society can be assisted when
searching for a naturalization docket.

Our library now hosts gravestone lists >from Jewish cemeteries in
France, compiled by various members, and the description of the content
of a CD-ROM about the Jewish communities of Bayonne and Saint-Esprit in
the 18th and early 19th centuries.

Ernest Kallmann
Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Paris, France _ www.genealoj.org_
Please send messages and questions to: office@...