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Beatrice Swart's query for "melitse of the world" & "rikhtik oyt mir" #belarus

Leonid Zeliger <lzeliger@...>
 

Irene Kudish offers MELITSIA (police in Russian) for MELITSE, but it's
rather Yiddish usage of the Hebrew word M"LITSA which means:
allegory,riddle,enigma,puzzle,fable,poetic style,florid frase.
RIKHTIK OYT MIR is pure Yiddish also and means something like "truth for
me".
More exact equivalent could be found >from the full context only.

Leonid Zeliger,
Jerusalem,Yakinton st. 15/6, 93844, Israel
email: lzeliger@homail.com

P.S.
My GF was a Hebrew teacher in commercial collede of Slutsk >from the end of
the 19th century to early 20-s.I have some authentic documents >from Slutsk,
including my GF's birth certificate , his student certificates >from Slutsk
Jewish school,and teacher certificate with stamp and signs of "kazenniy
ravvin" and other Jewish officials (late 1880-s).
I'll be glad to send copies of all these documents to the Summer
Symposium,and need an address where to mail.
Searching any information and memoirs on the ZELIGER family >from Slutsk and
other relatives.
I wonder,if somebody has Revision lists/Poll/Vital records of Jewish
population of Slutsk >from LDS archives?
Since there's no branch of LDS (Mormons) in Israel, can anybody give me
advise how to order microfilms >from FHL of LDS ?

Thanks to everybody in advance,
LZ


Belarus SIG #Belarus Beatrice Swart's query for "melitse of the world" & "rikhtik oyt mir" #belarus

Leonid Zeliger <lzeliger@...>
 

Irene Kudish offers MELITSIA (police in Russian) for MELITSE, but it's
rather Yiddish usage of the Hebrew word M"LITSA which means:
allegory,riddle,enigma,puzzle,fable,poetic style,florid frase.
RIKHTIK OYT MIR is pure Yiddish also and means something like "truth for
me".
More exact equivalent could be found >from the full context only.

Leonid Zeliger,
Jerusalem,Yakinton st. 15/6, 93844, Israel
email: lzeliger@homail.com

P.S.
My GF was a Hebrew teacher in commercial collede of Slutsk >from the end of
the 19th century to early 20-s.I have some authentic documents >from Slutsk,
including my GF's birth certificate , his student certificates >from Slutsk
Jewish school,and teacher certificate with stamp and signs of "kazenniy
ravvin" and other Jewish officials (late 1880-s).
I'll be glad to send copies of all these documents to the Summer
Symposium,and need an address where to mail.
Searching any information and memoirs on the ZELIGER family >from Slutsk and
other relatives.
I wonder,if somebody has Revision lists/Poll/Vital records of Jewish
population of Slutsk >from LDS archives?
Since there's no branch of LDS (Mormons) in Israel, can anybody give me
advise how to order microfilms >from FHL of LDS ?

Thanks to everybody in advance,
LZ


Re: Routes out of Belarus #belarus

richard_wolpoe@...
 

I believe that YONGE is the correct spelling.

Richard_Wolpoe@ibi.com
Teaneck, NJ

Susan M. Rogers <smrogers@erols.com> wrote:
Thank you Larry Guam for the idea that my gf arrived at the Port of Quebec
and then took the boat, Lake Champlain, >from Quebec to here? Is there
spot of entry >from which one takes the train to NYC? Then to Ellis Island
or where? Where do you go >from there?
Steamship >from Liverpool to the Port of Quebec. The North York Public Library on
Young St. Toronto, Ontario has copies of the manifest and Purser lists of passen
---


Searching-ROSENZUMEN #general

Kol Ze'ev - Jerusalem <leon_b@...>
 

Trying to locate information on the ROSENZUMEN family of Mizritch,and later
Sciedlice.In particular, Miriam ROSENZUMEN GROSSMAN married to David had two
children in 1943 then fled >from Sciedlice to Visoky Litebsk.All contact was
lost afterwards.They could have been victims of Stalin,or, even alive.If
anyone can direct me, I'ld appreciate it.

Leon Blankrot
Maale Adumim,Israel
leon_b@netvision.net.il

Researching:Blankrot-Kalisz;Rosenzumen-Mizritch,Sciedlice;Shluvis;Grossman


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re[2]: Routes out of Belarus #belarus

richard_wolpoe@...
 

I believe that YONGE is the correct spelling.

Richard_Wolpoe@ibi.com
Teaneck, NJ

Susan M. Rogers <smrogers@erols.com> wrote:
Thank you Larry Guam for the idea that my gf arrived at the Port of Quebec
and then took the boat, Lake Champlain, >from Quebec to here? Is there
spot of entry >from which one takes the train to NYC? Then to Ellis Island
or where? Where do you go >from there?
Steamship >from Liverpool to the Port of Quebec. The North York Public Library on
Young St. Toronto, Ontario has copies of the manifest and Purser lists of passen
---


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching-ROSENZUMEN #general

Kol Ze'ev - Jerusalem <leon_b@...>
 

Trying to locate information on the ROSENZUMEN family of Mizritch,and later
Sciedlice.In particular, Miriam ROSENZUMEN GROSSMAN married to David had two
children in 1943 then fled >from Sciedlice to Visoky Litebsk.All contact was
lost afterwards.They could have been victims of Stalin,or, even alive.If
anyone can direct me, I'ld appreciate it.

Leon Blankrot
Maale Adumim,Israel
leon_b@netvision.net.il

Researching:Blankrot-Kalisz;Rosenzumen-Mizritch,Sciedlice;Shluvis;Grossman


Two Questions #general

Rose Hoffman <ARose10@...>
 

1. Found out >from three sourses in cluding NARA that for the dates that
I need the citizen papers and census are of little value to me and that
to order them >from other sourcws that would not do anything to enhance
that fact.
Where do I go >from here to get dates so that I can have ship/passenger
lists?
2. Found out that my gps lived in Ukraine. Do I go to the consulate in
Russia or in Ukraine tp get information?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Two Questions #general

Rose Hoffman <ARose10@...>
 

1. Found out >from three sourses in cluding NARA that for the dates that
I need the citizen papers and census are of little value to me and that
to order them >from other sourcws that would not do anything to enhance
that fact.
Where do I go >from here to get dates so that I can have ship/passenger
lists?
2. Found out that my gps lived in Ukraine. Do I go to the consulate in
Russia or in Ukraine tp get information?


MARKOWITZ - Middletown NY #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

We have a family of third cousins >from Middletown NY, last heard
from maybe thirty years ago.
Richard and Robert MARKOWITZ would be in their fifties or sixties.
Their mother was Dorothy. Don't know the father's name.

Any help or suggestions?

Israel Pickholtz
Note my new address - zach4v6@actcom.co.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MARKOWITZ - Middletown NY #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

We have a family of third cousins >from Middletown NY, last heard
from maybe thirty years ago.
Richard and Robert MARKOWITZ would be in their fifties or sixties.
Their mother was Dorothy. Don't know the father's name.

Any help or suggestions?

Israel Pickholtz
Note my new address - zach4v6@actcom.co.il


check out this website! #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

Interesting web site
"International Survey of Jewish Monuments"
http://www.best.com/~isjm/index.shtml


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen check out this website! #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

Interesting web site
"International Survey of Jewish Monuments"
http://www.best.com/~isjm/index.shtml


Gabesdorf--a Nazi forced labor camp WWII #general

Louis A. Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear JGENER's

Can anyone tell me about a Nazi forced labor camp called Gabesdorf?

Please reply privately to me <loufine@juno.com>

Thanks,

Lou Fine, Tacoma Washington USA
<loufine@juno.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gabesdorf--a Nazi forced labor camp WWII #general

Louis A. Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear JGENER's

Can anyone tell me about a Nazi forced labor camp called Gabesdorf?

Please reply privately to me <loufine@juno.com>

Thanks,

Lou Fine, Tacoma Washington USA
<loufine@juno.com>


Mt. Carmel Cemetery in NY #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Can someone tell me if Mt. Carmel Cemetery located at Cypress Hills Street
and Cypress Avenue in Glendale, NY would be a problem to get to >from the
conference hotel in August? What would be the best method of transportation?
Any problems going into the neighborhood?

Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland CRomRider@aol.com


Finding People--A Great Resource #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

This is a stunning resource. It will answer questions
you never even knew had answers!

http://howtoinvestigate.com/adoption2.htm

http://howtoinvestigate.com

Dan

Daniel Kazez
dkazez@wittenberg.edu
Researching: (Ashkenazic) OBERMAN, TALMAN,
ENGLANDER, LISS, KEIFER. (Sephardic) KAZEZ, ALHADEFF, FRESKO.
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/WebPage.html

MODERATOR NOTE: Normally commerical sites aren't posted but this
site gives information on how to track people down on your own that
it's worthwhile including in the discussion group.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mt. Carmel Cemetery in NY #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

Can someone tell me if Mt. Carmel Cemetery located at Cypress Hills Street
and Cypress Avenue in Glendale, NY would be a problem to get to >from the
conference hotel in August? What would be the best method of transportation?
Any problems going into the neighborhood?

Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland CRomRider@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding People--A Great Resource #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

This is a stunning resource. It will answer questions
you never even knew had answers!

http://howtoinvestigate.com/adoption2.htm

http://howtoinvestigate.com

Dan

Daniel Kazez
dkazez@wittenberg.edu
Researching: (Ashkenazic) OBERMAN, TALMAN,
ENGLANDER, LISS, KEIFER. (Sephardic) KAZEZ, ALHADEFF, FRESKO.
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/WebPage.html

MODERATOR NOTE: Normally commerical sites aren't posted but this
site gives information on how to track people down on your own that
it's worthwhile including in the discussion group.


Shtetl President appointee question #general

NormK12065
 

JGenrs,

My GGGF was appointed by the Russians to be village president for a shtetl in
Poland. He supposedly was responsible for collecting taxes and conscripting
for the Army. My questions are:

1. What where these village overseers called?

2. How were they viewed by the rest of the Jewish population?

3. Were they paid to do this job or get any other special privileges?

Thank You.

Norm Katz
Norfolk, VA

RESEARCHING: KATZ (Kazimierz Dolny & Pulawy, Poland)
EDELSTEIN & GERSTEIN (Pulawy, Poland)
GORDON (Vasilishki, Belarus)
LITVAK/LUTVAK (Katerinopol, Ukraine)


Salt mines in Poland? #general

NormK12065
 

JGenrs,

My relatives >from many generations ago were suppose to have been involved
with salt mines. I am assuming it was Poland since the more recent
generations were >from Poland. Does anyone know if there are/were salt mines
in Poland and where they were located?

Thanks.

Norm Katz
Norfolk, VA