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Re: Yudin #belarus

Eleanor Lind <kbx62@...>
 

Thank you for your response. Rabbi Chaim was my maternal great
grandfather's twin brother, they were known as the twins Rabbis of Kopys
and Drissa.

Eleanor
EleanorPlatt@dial.pipex.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Yudin #belarus

Eleanor Lind <kbx62@...>
 

Thank you for your response. Rabbi Chaim was my maternal great
grandfather's twin brother, they were known as the twins Rabbis of Kopys
and Drissa.

Eleanor
EleanorPlatt@dial.pipex.com


Shalman, Peskin, Epstein, Ladman, Falkov in Vitebsk #belarus

Marc Weiss <marcplot@...>
 

Hello,

I am searching for any information about the following families when they
were in Belarus.

Nochim Yoselev SHALMAN (born Nov 1878, son of Josef and Zislia from
Polotsk) married Rachel-Genia Peisachovna (born about 1885 Vitebsk to
Pesach Peskin and Rachel ??). This family had a son Josef, a son Peise,
and a daughter Zislia (born April 6, 1908 in the 3rd part of the city
Vitebsk, named on April 8).

They emigrated to US where the family name was changed to Solman from
Shalman. Nochim became Nathan Solman, Rachel became Rose, Zisla became
Janet/Jennie/Jean, Josef became Joseph, and Peise became Phillip.

According to the family story, They lived in Bridgeport, Connecticut near a
family >from Vitepsk named Apstein, whose name in Belarus was EPSTEIN.
The Solman's later moved to New York City. Another family >from the same
village was named LADMAN, Moshe and Shiffra, who came to NYC as well, and
then went to Israel.

Shiffra (maiden name possibly Peskin), Rachel Genia's mother, a Rachel who
married BLOOM, and another Rachel -- known in the family lore as the four
Rachels -- were all somehow related. I am trying to figure out the
connection in Belarus. I have a lot of documentation on them in the states.

Another name that has cropped up in relation to these families is FALKOV,
who had some connection to the railway.

In addition to any info about the families in Belarus, I would like to find
out anything about the "3rd part of the city Vitebsk", and anything about
the Epstein/Apstein family in Bridgeport.

Thank you for any help.
Please let me know if you ever run accross these names.

Marc Weiss
NYC
marcplot@compuserve.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Shalman, Peskin, Epstein, Ladman, Falkov in Vitebsk #belarus

Marc Weiss <marcplot@...>
 

Hello,

I am searching for any information about the following families when they
were in Belarus.

Nochim Yoselev SHALMAN (born Nov 1878, son of Josef and Zislia from
Polotsk) married Rachel-Genia Peisachovna (born about 1885 Vitebsk to
Pesach Peskin and Rachel ??). This family had a son Josef, a son Peise,
and a daughter Zislia (born April 6, 1908 in the 3rd part of the city
Vitebsk, named on April 8).

They emigrated to US where the family name was changed to Solman from
Shalman. Nochim became Nathan Solman, Rachel became Rose, Zisla became
Janet/Jennie/Jean, Josef became Joseph, and Peise became Phillip.

According to the family story, They lived in Bridgeport, Connecticut near a
family >from Vitepsk named Apstein, whose name in Belarus was EPSTEIN.
The Solman's later moved to New York City. Another family >from the same
village was named LADMAN, Moshe and Shiffra, who came to NYC as well, and
then went to Israel.

Shiffra (maiden name possibly Peskin), Rachel Genia's mother, a Rachel who
married BLOOM, and another Rachel -- known in the family lore as the four
Rachels -- were all somehow related. I am trying to figure out the
connection in Belarus. I have a lot of documentation on them in the states.

Another name that has cropped up in relation to these families is FALKOV,
who had some connection to the railway.

In addition to any info about the families in Belarus, I would like to find
out anything about the "3rd part of the city Vitebsk", and anything about
the Epstein/Apstein family in Bridgeport.

Thank you for any help.
Please let me know if you ever run accross these names.

Marc Weiss
NYC
marcplot@compuserve.com


Searching ARONOWITZ, COHEN, EPSTEIN, GALEWITZ from Minsk or Grodno? #belarus

arlene parnes <arlene@...>
 

As this is my first time, I am just putting out my surnames:

Arlene Parnes, Orlando, FL
Searching:
ARONOWITZ, Russia; Cuba; ASIA, Krements, Poland/Ukraine
COHEN, Russia; Manchester, Eng; EPSTEIN, Russia; GALEWITZ, Vilnius
GROBERG, Vienna; JUVITZER/PARNES; Vishnevets, Poland/Ukraine;
SPIEGELMAN, Ternopol

Thanks to anyone who can help with the GALEWITZ name.
According to my uncles' WWI draft card, his father came >from Wilno. But his
sister's daughters, one of whom passed away in March, they insisted their
mother came >from Minsk.

I have the name coming >from Grodno, Wilno (Vilnius) Minsk and someone from
Israel whose son claims that was not the original name at all.
Galina Baranova did a search several years ago in Vilnius and came up with
nothing.

My gf's Nat. papers have nothing other than "Russia" on them - no town, no
ship, no nothing. He came in 1887-8

Thanks for any help, guidance, etc.

Arlene Parnes
Orlando, FL
<arlene@orlinter.com>


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching ARONOWITZ, COHEN, EPSTEIN, GALEWITZ from Minsk or Grodno? #belarus

arlene parnes <arlene@...>
 

As this is my first time, I am just putting out my surnames:

Arlene Parnes, Orlando, FL
Searching:
ARONOWITZ, Russia; Cuba; ASIA, Krements, Poland/Ukraine
COHEN, Russia; Manchester, Eng; EPSTEIN, Russia; GALEWITZ, Vilnius
GROBERG, Vienna; JUVITZER/PARNES; Vishnevets, Poland/Ukraine;
SPIEGELMAN, Ternopol

Thanks to anyone who can help with the GALEWITZ name.
According to my uncles' WWI draft card, his father came >from Wilno. But his
sister's daughters, one of whom passed away in March, they insisted their
mother came >from Minsk.

I have the name coming >from Grodno, Wilno (Vilnius) Minsk and someone from
Israel whose son claims that was not the original name at all.
Galina Baranova did a search several years ago in Vilnius and came up with
nothing.

My gf's Nat. papers have nothing other than "Russia" on them - no town, no
ship, no nothing. He came in 1887-8

Thanks for any help, guidance, etc.

Arlene Parnes
Orlando, FL
<arlene@orlinter.com>


Fw: Re:Form 81 #belarus

kudish <kudish@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Irene Kudish sent an e-mail message to NARA and received
the following response which should be of interest to members of the group
who do not have access locally to the NARA or an LDS Family History Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: NNU Public Reference Inquire <inquire@arch2.nara.gov>
To: kudish@netcom.ca <kudish@netcom.ca>
Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 12:02 AM
Subject: Re:Form 81


Welcome to the National Archives and Records Administration's e-mail
reference and information service, inquire@arch2.nara.gov !

Operated by the staff of the Customer Services Division, "inquire" is
intended to provide timely responses to reference requests, or at least get
the process started quickly by referring your message to the appropriate
office or person. We also answer general inquiries about the National
Archives and Records Administration (NARA). If you have not visited NARA's
web page, we recommend that you do because there is much useful information
about the agency and its records holdings and services. The URL is:
http://www.nara.gov .

This message is automatically generated whenever one of the following words
appears in the text of an incoming message: form, forms, and Form. We have
set up our e-mail system in this way because we have found that these words
appear frequently in requests for the specific genealogy reference forms we
use at NARA. (AHA!) The numbers and subjects of these forms are as follows:

Form 80 (Military service and pension records prior to World War I,
including the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, the Mexican War, Civil War,
and the Spanish-American War)

Form 81 (Passenger Arrival Records)

Form 82 (Copies of Census Records -- requiring your knowledge of the
publication, roll, and page number, as we do not conduct searches of Census
Records for you)

Form 83 (Eastern Cherokee Applications)

Form 84 (Land Entry Papers -- for Federal lands only), and

Form 180 (Military Service Records, World War I and later -- the form can
also be downloaded directly >from the following internet location:
http://www.nara.gov/regional/mpr.html)

If you indicated in your original message the FORM NUMBER, the QUANTITY
needed, and YOUR POSTAL MAILING ADDRESS, you have given us the information
we need to fill your order. However, if you did not include this
information in your original message, please re-send your message with this
information. While we try to fill orders within 10 days, sometimes the
number of inquiries is too great to do so. We therefore appreciate your
patience very much.

If your inquiry concerns a different subject or one which requires a more
substantive reply, it will be evaluated by an archivist (a real person,
honest!) and either answered by that person directly, or referred to the
proper reference or other office. Please do not expect immediate responses
from other offices as it takes more time to make a substantive reply --
usually 2 to 3 weeks.

As with any electronic system, problems/bugs sometime occur. If this
should happen to you or you want to register a comment, complaint, or
congratulations for a job well-done, please send your e-mail to:
bob.coren@arch2.nara.gov .

from Tom, Charlene, Cynthia, Faye and Bob, thanks for reading this entire
message (and don't forget the NARA web page!).

"kudish@netcom.ca" 06/13/99 00:03 >>>
Dear Sir/Madame

In your archive I have found the name of my ancestor I am looking for. I
know the Record number, the Roll and Series. Should I send your my request
using the Form 81 or I can request through e-mail? If it is by regular mail
where should I send the demand? I greatly appreciate your help.

I live in Montreal, Canada.
4570 Anderson, Pierrefonds, H9A 2W7, Quebec, Canada
Tel. 514- 696-5824
fax. 514-696-4238
e-mail kudish@netcom.ca

Yours truly Irene Kudish


Belarus SIG #Belarus Fw: Re:Form 81 #belarus

kudish <kudish@...>
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Irene Kudish sent an e-mail message to NARA and received
the following response which should be of interest to members of the group
who do not have access locally to the NARA or an LDS Family History Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: NNU Public Reference Inquire <inquire@arch2.nara.gov>
To: kudish@netcom.ca <kudish@netcom.ca>
Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 12:02 AM
Subject: Re:Form 81


Welcome to the National Archives and Records Administration's e-mail
reference and information service, inquire@arch2.nara.gov !

Operated by the staff of the Customer Services Division, "inquire" is
intended to provide timely responses to reference requests, or at least get
the process started quickly by referring your message to the appropriate
office or person. We also answer general inquiries about the National
Archives and Records Administration (NARA). If you have not visited NARA's
web page, we recommend that you do because there is much useful information
about the agency and its records holdings and services. The URL is:
http://www.nara.gov .

This message is automatically generated whenever one of the following words
appears in the text of an incoming message: form, forms, and Form. We have
set up our e-mail system in this way because we have found that these words
appear frequently in requests for the specific genealogy reference forms we
use at NARA. (AHA!) The numbers and subjects of these forms are as follows:

Form 80 (Military service and pension records prior to World War I,
including the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, the Mexican War, Civil War,
and the Spanish-American War)

Form 81 (Passenger Arrival Records)

Form 82 (Copies of Census Records -- requiring your knowledge of the
publication, roll, and page number, as we do not conduct searches of Census
Records for you)

Form 83 (Eastern Cherokee Applications)

Form 84 (Land Entry Papers -- for Federal lands only), and

Form 180 (Military Service Records, World War I and later -- the form can
also be downloaded directly >from the following internet location:
http://www.nara.gov/regional/mpr.html)

If you indicated in your original message the FORM NUMBER, the QUANTITY
needed, and YOUR POSTAL MAILING ADDRESS, you have given us the information
we need to fill your order. However, if you did not include this
information in your original message, please re-send your message with this
information. While we try to fill orders within 10 days, sometimes the
number of inquiries is too great to do so. We therefore appreciate your
patience very much.

If your inquiry concerns a different subject or one which requires a more
substantive reply, it will be evaluated by an archivist (a real person,
honest!) and either answered by that person directly, or referred to the
proper reference or other office. Please do not expect immediate responses
from other offices as it takes more time to make a substantive reply --
usually 2 to 3 weeks.

As with any electronic system, problems/bugs sometime occur. If this
should happen to you or you want to register a comment, complaint, or
congratulations for a job well-done, please send your e-mail to:
bob.coren@arch2.nara.gov .

from Tom, Charlene, Cynthia, Faye and Bob, thanks for reading this entire
message (and don't forget the NARA web page!).

"kudish@netcom.ca" 06/13/99 00:03 >>>
Dear Sir/Madame

In your archive I have found the name of my ancestor I am looking for. I
know the Record number, the Roll and Series. Should I send your my request
using the Form 81 or I can request through e-mail? If it is by regular mail
where should I send the demand? I greatly appreciate your help.

I live in Montreal, Canada.
4570 Anderson, Pierrefonds, H9A 2W7, Quebec, Canada
Tel. 514- 696-5824
fax. 514-696-4238
e-mail kudish@netcom.ca

Yours truly Irene Kudish


New issue of the Newsletter! #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Now the New issue of the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter is ready for you:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm>

It has been a bit delayed, so the "date" says May .... I am sorry about
that, but I did not want to delay it any more, just to change May to June
all the way through!

A new option will soon be avaialble:
------------------------------------
The newsletter will be available also as pdf-files, which can be easily
read and printed out >from Acrobat Reader. Notification will be given in the
Belarus Discussion Group, as soon as the pdf-files are uploaded and ready.

So if any of you, are in contact with researchers with an interest in
Belarus but without access to the Internet, we suggest that you download
the pdf-files (and the Acrobat Reader if you don't already have that) and
make printouts for distribution to e.g. the members of your local Jewish
Genealogical Society, friends and relatives.

The copyright will not be violated, as long as you print out the whole
newsletter for distribution (i.e. with all information about authors and
permision to use the material). However, the copyright will be violated, if
you copy only part of the newsletter.

Reprinting or copying of any of the material in the newsletters without
prior permision >from the Belarus SIG editor or the Belarus SIG Coordinator,
David M. Fox, is not allowed.

Have a look:
------------

You will find information and advice on travel to Belarus, a short report
from the recent ShtetlSchleppers Trip and a moving account of David Frey's
journey to the ancestral home.

There is also information on Lyuban and a link to a new website for
Luninets and Kozhangorodok (which can be seen as a sequel to the two
articles in Issue No. 2/January 1999), as well as a (preliminary) list of
existing Jewish cemeteries in Belarus (which can be seen as a prelude to
the ShtetlSchleppers Trip in August and September to Belarus).

Then there is a letter >from our energetic and seemingly tireless SIG
Coordinator, David M. Fox, without whose great initiative the Belarus SIG
would not have been started, and without whose significant and
timeconsuming efforts, the SIG would not have achieved all that has been
achieved in less than a year! Achievements which are of invaluable help
to us all in our research.

.... I write "seemingly", because David Fox also has an urgent request for
help to coordinate and initiate Belarus SIG projects, so that he can get
time for all his other tasks! I hope that all of you will read his request
for help - and that someone will take up the challenge.

Best regards


Elsebeth Paikin, Editor
Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


Belarus SIG #Belarus New issue of the Newsletter! #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

Now the New issue of the Belarus SIG Online Newsletter is ready for you:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm>

It has been a bit delayed, so the "date" says May .... I am sorry about
that, but I did not want to delay it any more, just to change May to June
all the way through!

A new option will soon be avaialble:
------------------------------------
The newsletter will be available also as pdf-files, which can be easily
read and printed out >from Acrobat Reader. Notification will be given in the
Belarus Discussion Group, as soon as the pdf-files are uploaded and ready.

So if any of you, are in contact with researchers with an interest in
Belarus but without access to the Internet, we suggest that you download
the pdf-files (and the Acrobat Reader if you don't already have that) and
make printouts for distribution to e.g. the members of your local Jewish
Genealogical Society, friends and relatives.

The copyright will not be violated, as long as you print out the whole
newsletter for distribution (i.e. with all information about authors and
permision to use the material). However, the copyright will be violated, if
you copy only part of the newsletter.

Reprinting or copying of any of the material in the newsletters without
prior permision >from the Belarus SIG editor or the Belarus SIG Coordinator,
David M. Fox, is not allowed.

Have a look:
------------

You will find information and advice on travel to Belarus, a short report
from the recent ShtetlSchleppers Trip and a moving account of David Frey's
journey to the ancestral home.

There is also information on Lyuban and a link to a new website for
Luninets and Kozhangorodok (which can be seen as a sequel to the two
articles in Issue No. 2/January 1999), as well as a (preliminary) list of
existing Jewish cemeteries in Belarus (which can be seen as a prelude to
the ShtetlSchleppers Trip in August and September to Belarus).

Then there is a letter >from our energetic and seemingly tireless SIG
Coordinator, David M. Fox, without whose great initiative the Belarus SIG
would not have been started, and without whose significant and
timeconsuming efforts, the SIG would not have achieved all that has been
achieved in less than a year! Achievements which are of invaluable help
to us all in our research.

.... I write "seemingly", because David Fox also has an urgent request for
help to coordinate and initiate Belarus SIG projects, so that he can get
time for all his other tasks! I hope that all of you will read his request
for help - and that someone will take up the challenge.

Best regards


Elsebeth Paikin, Editor
Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm
e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk


Re: Form 81 #belarus

Joyce Peck <Joycekp@...>
 

My memory may be faulty, but it seems to me I was able to order Form 81
and others on-line >from NARA. Does anyone have an address or know what
I'm talking about? NARA has a website (but I couldn't find a place to
order the application forms) at www.NARA.gov.

Joyce Peck
Joycekp@webtv.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Form 81 #belarus

Joyce Peck <Joycekp@...>
 

My memory may be faulty, but it seems to me I was able to order Form 81
and others on-line >from NARA. Does anyone have an address or know what
I'm talking about? NARA has a website (but I couldn't find a place to
order the application forms) at www.NARA.gov.

Joyce Peck
Joycekp@webtv.net


thank you! - Re:Polish Salt Mines #general

NormK12065
 

Thanks to all of you worldwide that responded to my query about
Polish Salt Mines.
The multitude of responses provided quite an education and gave me
starting points to search for additional family members.

Once again the wonderful JewishGen subscribers have proven the value
of this great organization.

Thanks again.

Norm Katz
Norfolk, VA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen thank you! - Re:Polish Salt Mines #general

NormK12065
 

Thanks to all of you worldwide that responded to my query about
Polish Salt Mines.
The multitude of responses provided quite an education and gave me
starting points to search for additional family members.

Once again the wonderful JewishGen subscribers have proven the value
of this great organization.

Thanks again.

Norm Katz
Norfolk, VA


Re: Mt. Carmel Cemetery in NY #general

RWein38675 <rwein38675@...>
 

My great-grandparents are buried there - are you aware that there is an Old
Mount Carmel Cemetery? I called the cemetery for the information I needed and
they faxed it to me free of charge. This saved me a trip of going there. They
were very nice and had no problem doing this.
Included were date of death, burial date, place of death, grave location -

Ronna Weinberg


Re: German Town Name #general

SFalk81162 <sfalk81162@...>
 

Jane:

Adding on to the response you already received (re: Glogau), I would actually
suspect that this is a reference to the town of Gross Glogau, where the English
record keeper converted "Gross" to "Great" and then abbreviated to "Gt". I
believe this town is in Silesia (near Breslau, Germany; now Wroclaw, Poland).

I hope you can solve your mystery.
Stephen Falk

Wayne, PA
sfalk81162@aol.com

Searching: all in Breslau (and in)
FALK (Lissa) FREUND (Schmiegel) BACH (Inowroclaw-Tarnowitz-Myslowitz) PERL
(Kieferstadtel) IMMERWAHR (Brieg-Kreuzberg) SILBERSTEIN (Brieg)
KALISCHER (Lissa-Thorn-Kalisch)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mt. Carmel Cemetery in NY #general

RWein38675 <rwein38675@...>
 

My great-grandparents are buried there - are you aware that there is an Old
Mount Carmel Cemetery? I called the cemetery for the information I needed and
they faxed it to me free of charge. This saved me a trip of going there. They
were very nice and had no problem doing this.
Included were date of death, burial date, place of death, grave location -

Ronna Weinberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: German Town Name #general

SFalk81162 <sfalk81162@...>
 

Jane:

Adding on to the response you already received (re: Glogau), I would actually
suspect that this is a reference to the town of Gross Glogau, where the English
record keeper converted "Gross" to "Great" and then abbreviated to "Gt". I
believe this town is in Silesia (near Breslau, Germany; now Wroclaw, Poland).

I hope you can solve your mystery.
Stephen Falk

Wayne, PA
sfalk81162@aol.com

Searching: all in Breslau (and in)
FALK (Lissa) FREUND (Schmiegel) BACH (Inowroclaw-Tarnowitz-Myslowitz) PERL
(Kieferstadtel) IMMERWAHR (Brieg-Kreuzberg) SILBERSTEIN (Brieg)
KALISCHER (Lissa-Thorn-Kalisch)


Felshtin (Ukraine) Newsletter is Online #general

Eric Baizer <jazz@...>
 

The first issue of a Newsletter devoted to Felshtin (Ukraine) is online
at
www.west.net/~jazz/felshtin

The site also includes a recently expanded bibliography, list of
surnames,
and other resources for researchers and genealogists.


Re: Searching MOLCZADZCKI #general

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

Molchad is in Belarus, about 90 miles east (and slightly north) of
Bialystok, and about 20 miles NW of Slonim.

Please contact me if you have any connection to that surname, as my gm's
maiden name was MOLCHADSKY, >from Kossovo, south of Slonim.


Marion Werle <werle@pacificnet.net>

Searching: MOLCHADSKY (Kossovo, Bereza and Pruzhany, Belarus); RATNER
(Kossovo, Belarus); SKUTELSKI, GETZ (Riebene, Latvia); MINSK (Daugavpils,
Latvia); SKUDER/SCUDER, COHEN (Skuodas, Lith.); KRAWITZ (Mosedis, Lith.)

See the Latvia SIG web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/latvia

AND the LitvakSIG web site:
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak