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BONDI out of Italy #general

Paul King <samorai@...>
 

On 19 April Michael Bernet asks: "Information on Italian Jewish Bondis,
anyone?" I can give the tiniest of windows on Bohemia.

In "The family Bondi and their ancestors. Assembled and edited by Reiner J.
Auman. 1966", the following claim is made:

"Among families of Italian origin who entered Bohemia in the early 17th c.
are Bondi, Bassevi (Basch), Luck, Wehli (Wahli are 'the Italians' in
Slavic), and Aschkenazi."

The very sparse amount of oral family history for my Koenig family makes a
claim for Italian origins and the genealogical research I have made over the
past 5 years has for the most part upheld the credibility of the oral
history (all >from one family source). This family appears to have associated
in its early Bohemian history with Basch and much later with Bondy.

There was 17th c. trade across the Alps >from the north Italian towns and it
is possible that Bondys arrived in Vienna and vicinity. Don't know if there
are any references to Bondy in David Kaufmann, Die Letze Vertrebung de
Juden aus Wien und Nieder?sterreich, 1625-1670, Budapest, G. Athenaeum,
which deals with 1670 expulsion. Worth a peek.

The Bohemian nobles snapped up Jews to run their proto-industrial plants
following the Thirty Years War (1618-1648) and >from the plethora of Bondys
(also Bonda?) >from the Familianten lists of 1724, it is possible that some
came out of Italy.

Crumbs, but maybe others can add.

Paul King
Jerusalem

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BONDI out of Italy #general

Paul King <samorai@...>
 

On 19 April Michael Bernet asks: "Information on Italian Jewish Bondis,
anyone?" I can give the tiniest of windows on Bohemia.

In "The family Bondi and their ancestors. Assembled and edited by Reiner J.
Auman. 1966", the following claim is made:

"Among families of Italian origin who entered Bohemia in the early 17th c.
are Bondi, Bassevi (Basch), Luck, Wehli (Wahli are 'the Italians' in
Slavic), and Aschkenazi."

The very sparse amount of oral family history for my Koenig family makes a
claim for Italian origins and the genealogical research I have made over the
past 5 years has for the most part upheld the credibility of the oral
history (all >from one family source). This family appears to have associated
in its early Bohemian history with Basch and much later with Bondy.

There was 17th c. trade across the Alps >from the north Italian towns and it
is possible that Bondys arrived in Vienna and vicinity. Don't know if there
are any references to Bondy in David Kaufmann, Die Letze Vertrebung de
Juden aus Wien und Nieder?sterreich, 1625-1670, Budapest, G. Athenaeum,
which deals with 1670 expulsion. Worth a peek.

The Bohemian nobles snapped up Jews to run their proto-industrial plants
following the Thirty Years War (1618-1648) and >from the plethora of Bondys
(also Bonda?) >from the Familianten lists of 1724, it is possible that some
came out of Italy.

Crumbs, but maybe others can add.

Paul King
Jerusalem

Re: Lida #general

jerome schatten
 

The chapters come up fine here. You need to have a .pdf reader enabled
in your browser.

Jerome Schatten
Vancouver

For anyone with an interest in life in Lida, Poland in the period
preceding WWII I recommend "With God's Help" at the following web-site:

http://www.faculty.econ.northwestern.edu/faculty/manski/with_god's_help.html

David Rosen
Boston, MA

MODERATOR NOTE: The above link brings you to a list of links to the various
chapters, covers and photographs. Upon checking the links on that page, they
did not operate.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lida #general

jerome schatten
 

The chapters come up fine here. You need to have a .pdf reader enabled
in your browser.

Jerome Schatten
Vancouver

For anyone with an interest in life in Lida, Poland in the period
preceding WWII I recommend "With God's Help" at the following web-site:

http://www.faculty.econ.northwestern.edu/faculty/manski/with_god's_help.html

David Rosen
Boston, MA

MODERATOR NOTE: The above link brings you to a list of links to the various
chapters, covers and photographs. Upon checking the links on that page, they
did not operate.

A marriage document for two people with childen born twenty years before #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Has this happend to anyone else? Two days ago, I received a marriage
registration >from 1874 in Warsaw. It states that the groom is 60, as is the
bride and that they have children born in 1853 and 1857. I am assuming that
is the formal state registration of their marriage (which actually took
place somewhere before 1837, because I have another document for the birth
of a daughter in 1838).

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK - Podolia, Ukraine
EPSTEIN, Ruzhany & Mscibow, Belarus
TREPER, TREPMAN, SOJCHER, FELDMAN, LICHT - Warsaw, Poland

JRI Poland #Poland A marriage document for two people with childen born twenty years before #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Has this happend to anyone else? Two days ago, I received a marriage
registration >from 1874 in Warsaw. It states that the groom is 60, as is the
bride and that they have children born in 1853 and 1857. I am assuming that
is the formal state registration of their marriage (which actually took
place somewhere before 1837, because I have another document for the birth
of a daughter in 1838).

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK - Podolia, Ukraine
EPSTEIN, Ruzhany & Mscibow, Belarus
TREPER, TREPMAN, SOJCHER, FELDMAN, LICHT - Warsaw, Poland

Do try variations Treper-Trepman-Treperman #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Luckily my mother-in-law had marked on a document or two, Treper-Trepman.
This enabled us to collect documents indexed on JRI-Poland for the two names
and see that the names were used inter-changeably (is there such a word) in
the 19th century.

Last month I took a chance and ordered a document for a Treperman. I
thought, if they used both Treper and Trepman, maybe one used Treperman.
The document arrived and after a sketchy translation, I found
that Gersa Treperman was born about 1814 in Warsaw and his mother's name was
Sprincza daughter of Layzer.

This matched the year of birth (it can't be a coincidence) of Hersz
Trepman (Also between Russian and Polish Gersa can be Hersz) born in
Warsaw in 1814, whose father is Kielman, and I know >from another document
Kielman's wife is Szprinca. I now have 3 definite children for my husband's
ggggrandfather, which means 3 different branches.

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK - Podolia, Ukraine
EPSTEIN, Ruzhany & Mscibow, Belarus
TREPER, TREPMAN, SOJCHER, FELDMAN, LICHT - Warsaw, Poland

JRI Poland #Poland Do try variations Treper-Trepman-Treperman #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Luckily my mother-in-law had marked on a document or two, Treper-Trepman.
This enabled us to collect documents indexed on JRI-Poland for the two names
and see that the names were used inter-changeably (is there such a word) in
the 19th century.

Last month I took a chance and ordered a document for a Treperman. I
thought, if they used both Treper and Trepman, maybe one used Treperman.
The document arrived and after a sketchy translation, I found
that Gersa Treperman was born about 1814 in Warsaw and his mother's name was
Sprincza daughter of Layzer.

This matched the year of birth (it can't be a coincidence) of Hersz
Trepman (Also between Russian and Polish Gersa can be Hersz) born in
Warsaw in 1814, whose father is Kielman, and I know >from another document
Kielman's wife is Szprinca. I now have 3 definite children for my husband's
ggggrandfather, which means 3 different branches.

Rose Feldman
GITNER, REZNIK - Podolia, Ukraine
EPSTEIN, Ruzhany & Mscibow, Belarus
TREPER, TREPMAN, SOJCHER, FELDMAN, LICHT - Warsaw, Poland

BONDI / YOM TOV / KLONOMOS #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Genners

I have a Polish and a Latvian ancestor named Kalman and Klonomos
respectively, I believe this is a Greek rendering of Yom Tov. Does
anyone know the origin of this and if there is any significance in the
geographical spread of Bondis, Yom Tovs and Kalmans/Klonamos'

Shabbat Shalom

Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln; FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen; STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BONDI / YOM TOV / KLONOMOS #general

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Genners

I have a Polish and a Latvian ancestor named Kalman and Klonomos
respectively, I believe this is a Greek rendering of Yom Tov. Does
anyone know the origin of this and if there is any significance in the
geographical spread of Bondis, Yom Tovs and Kalmans/Klonamos'

Shabbat Shalom

Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln; FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen; STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa

JGS - Hamilton (Ontario, Canada) & Area - Wed, April 26 Meeting #ukraine

Ina Levitt-Yanover
 

Offered by
Jewish Genealogical Society- Hamilton & Area
Wednesday, April 26, 2006
7:30 PM to 10:00 PM
Location: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, ON

Every week, people around the world suddenly discover their Jewish
roots. Peter Jassem's lecture will reveal the reasons for the involuntary
loss of Jewish identity after the war and provide examples of reconnecting
to Jewish roots, and the psychological and practical consequences thereof.
Examples,including Peter's own experiences, will illustrate the methods
used to trace one's Jewish roots and how their discovery evolved. Peter's
presentation will also encompass ways of searching for lost relatives,
whether Holocaust survivors or their descendants living under an assumed
or imposed false identity.

Raised as a Christian, Peter Jassem suspected that his roots were
Jewish for some time and was able to confirm this in 1995. During the
following 18 months he located 1500 names of Jewish ancestors or relatives.
He became an active board member of the JGS of Canada (Toronto) and is now
on the board of JRI-Poland, Gesher Galicia and the Canadian Foundation for
Polish Studies. Since 2002 he has served as president of the Polish-Jewish
Heritage Foundation of Canada. He has written articles for genealogical
newsletters,lectured on genealogy and participated in various projects.
He was the program chair of the 22nd IAJGS International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy, Toronto, 2002.

Please join us for this presentation Discovering Jewish Roots of People
raised as Non-Jews. Admission for non - members is $5 which will be
applied when joining in the same membership year.

Ina Levitt-Yanover
Hamilton, ON, Canada
inaly3@...
www.jgsh.org newsletter@...

Researching:
LEVITT- Seda, Lithuania to South Africa to Paterson, New Jersey to
Hamilton, Ontario; ZICK - Libau, Latvia to South Africa
ADNO/ADLER - Riga, Latvia to South Africa & Brooklyn, New York to
Hamilton, Ontario; GRINKER - Paterson, New Jersey;
SZNIFER/SHNIFER/GOLDHAR - Staszow, Poland to Toronto, Ontario & Sao
Paulo, Brazil to Hamilton, Ontario; GOLDMAN/ISMOCHOVITZ - Lomza,
Poland to London (Spitalfields), England to Hamilton, Ontario to Buffalo,
New York to Hamilton; EISENSTADT/AYZENSTADT - Bobruisk, Russia to Toronto,
Ontario to Hamilton, Ontario; YANOVER - Nasielsk, Poland to Hamilton,
Ontario & Chicago, Illinois; GROSS - Kielce, Poland to Toronto & London
to Hamilton,Ontario

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine JGS - Hamilton (Ontario, Canada) & Area - Wed, April 26 Meeting #ukraine

Ina Levitt-Yanover
 

Offered by
Jewish Genealogical Society- Hamilton & Area
Wednesday, April 26, 2006
7:30 PM to 10:00 PM
Location: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, ON

Every week, people around the world suddenly discover their Jewish
roots. Peter Jassem's lecture will reveal the reasons for the involuntary
loss of Jewish identity after the war and provide examples of reconnecting
to Jewish roots, and the psychological and practical consequences thereof.
Examples,including Peter's own experiences, will illustrate the methods
used to trace one's Jewish roots and how their discovery evolved. Peter's
presentation will also encompass ways of searching for lost relatives,
whether Holocaust survivors or their descendants living under an assumed
or imposed false identity.

Raised as a Christian, Peter Jassem suspected that his roots were
Jewish for some time and was able to confirm this in 1995. During the
following 18 months he located 1500 names of Jewish ancestors or relatives.
He became an active board member of the JGS of Canada (Toronto) and is now
on the board of JRI-Poland, Gesher Galicia and the Canadian Foundation for
Polish Studies. Since 2002 he has served as president of the Polish-Jewish
Heritage Foundation of Canada. He has written articles for genealogical
newsletters,lectured on genealogy and participated in various projects.
He was the program chair of the 22nd IAJGS International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy, Toronto, 2002.

Please join us for this presentation Discovering Jewish Roots of People
raised as Non-Jews. Admission for non - members is $5 which will be
applied when joining in the same membership year.

Ina Levitt-Yanover
Hamilton, ON, Canada
inaly3@...
www.jgsh.org newsletter@...

Researching:
LEVITT- Seda, Lithuania to South Africa to Paterson, New Jersey to
Hamilton, Ontario; ZICK - Libau, Latvia to South Africa
ADNO/ADLER - Riga, Latvia to South Africa & Brooklyn, New York to
Hamilton, Ontario; GRINKER - Paterson, New Jersey;
SZNIFER/SHNIFER/GOLDHAR - Staszow, Poland to Toronto, Ontario & Sao
Paulo, Brazil to Hamilton, Ontario; GOLDMAN/ISMOCHOVITZ - Lomza,
Poland to London (Spitalfields), England to Hamilton, Ontario to Buffalo,
New York to Hamilton; EISENSTADT/AYZENSTADT - Bobruisk, Russia to Toronto,
Ontario to Hamilton, Ontario; YANOVER - Nasielsk, Poland to Hamilton,
Ontario & Chicago, Illinois; GROSS - Kielce, Poland to Toronto & London
to Hamilton,Ontario

Going to Ruzhin #ukraine

David & Monique Gordon <dmgordonnj@...>
 

I am to visit Ruzhin in May. Possible other stops: Bela Tserkov &
Berdichev.

Does anyone have any personal info on what I should be looking for, of
Jewish value in Ruzhin, today? Any tips??

PLEASE REPLY PRIVATELY TO: dmgordonnj@...

All the best
David Gordon

GRODINSKY/GORDON/GRODY >from Leonovicze & Jalowka, Grodno Gubernia
KAPLINSKY >from Grodno Gubernia; PARANSKY and HECHT >from Ruzhin
KUTSOVSKY/KATZOWSKY >from Peryaslav; SACHAROV/SACHAROW >from Poltava
COOPER/COOPPER >from Poland; GOLDENBERG/GOLDBERG >from Iasi, Romania
GELTZER >from Iasi Romania; ROSENWASSER and ROSENBERG >from Ukraine
TOLCHINSKY >from Poland and Ukraine
LAYANI/CHICHE/PARTOUCHE/BEN-TATA/CHICHPORTICHE/AKOUN/SELLEM from
Algeria

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Going to Ruzhin #ukraine

David & Monique Gordon <dmgordonnj@...>
 

I am to visit Ruzhin in May. Possible other stops: Bela Tserkov &
Berdichev.

Does anyone have any personal info on what I should be looking for, of
Jewish value in Ruzhin, today? Any tips??

PLEASE REPLY PRIVATELY TO: dmgordonnj@...

All the best
David Gordon

GRODINSKY/GORDON/GRODY >from Leonovicze & Jalowka, Grodno Gubernia
KAPLINSKY >from Grodno Gubernia; PARANSKY and HECHT >from Ruzhin
KUTSOVSKY/KATZOWSKY >from Peryaslav; SACHAROV/SACHAROW >from Poltava
COOPER/COOPPER >from Poland; GOLDENBERG/GOLDBERG >from Iasi, Romania
GELTZER >from Iasi Romania; ROSENWASSER and ROSENBERG >from Ukraine
TOLCHINSKY >from Poland and Ukraine
LAYANI/CHICHE/PARTOUCHE/BEN-TATA/CHICHPORTICHE/AKOUN/SELLEM from
Algeria

Re: BONDI, translation of YOM TOV (also Suesslein Alexander Jekusiel ) #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

In a message dated 4/20/2006 nbonomi@... writes:

In the past centuries this surname, very frequent among the Sfardim, was
written Bondi (with the accent on the last letter).
With this spelling Bon-di is a verbatim translation of Yom Tov.
I don't think Sandro Bondi knows or care about this origin of his
surname.

Yes, I know, I mentioned that in my original posting, and I did not expect
Sandro Bondi to have nibbled on matzah for all of last week. But I was
wondering whether there are Jewish Bondi families in Italy, and ultimately
whether these Italian Bondis are generally assumed to descend >from Jewish
YomTov.
In a family-tree including the name JONTOF-HUTTER >from Prague which contains
the name Jontof/Jontov
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randols/PS01/PS01_014.HTM there is
a comment that the frequent Prague name of Bondi is supposed to be a
Spanish/Portuguese version of Yomtov.

There is apparently a connection between the family and Rabbi Yomtov Lippman
Heller (1579-1654) who became Chief Rabbi of Bohemia.

I discovered in my researches that he was born in Wallerstein in Franconia
in Southern Germany, which is where my family came from.

My family didn't arrive in Wallerstein till about 1700.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: BONDI, translation of YOM TOV (also Suesslein Alexander Jekusiel ) #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

In a message dated 4/20/2006 nbonomi@... writes:

In the past centuries this surname, very frequent among the Sfardim, was
written Bondi (with the accent on the last letter).
With this spelling Bon-di is a verbatim translation of Yom Tov.
I don't think Sandro Bondi knows or care about this origin of his
surname.

Yes, I know, I mentioned that in my original posting, and I did not expect
Sandro Bondi to have nibbled on matzah for all of last week. But I was
wondering whether there are Jewish Bondi families in Italy, and ultimately
whether these Italian Bondis are generally assumed to descend >from Jewish
YomTov.
In a family-tree including the name JONTOF-HUTTER >from Prague which contains
the name Jontof/Jontov
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randols/PS01/PS01_014.HTM there is
a comment that the frequent Prague name of Bondi is supposed to be a
Spanish/Portuguese version of Yomtov.

There is apparently a connection between the family and Rabbi Yomtov Lippman
Heller (1579-1654) who became Chief Rabbi of Bohemia.

I discovered in my researches that he was born in Wallerstein in Franconia
in Southern Germany, which is where my family came from.

My family didn't arrive in Wallerstein till about 1700.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

Dr. Herzfeld in Vienna #austria-czech

Joseph Hirschfield
 

A "Dr. Herzfeld" performed a bris on a cousin in 1893 in Vienna.
Dr.Herzfeld in listed in other birth records as well. Does anyone
have any information on Dr. Herzfeld? This cousins mother's maiden name
was Hirschfeld and I was wondering if the Dr. was a relative or the
name was just a coincidence.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM, BUCHSBAUM -Skwarzawa, Glinyany,
Sielec Bienkow, GALICIA
MINOWITZSKI, TOBIASZ -Brest-Litovsk, BELARUS

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Dr. Herzfeld in Vienna #austria-czech

Joseph Hirschfield
 

A "Dr. Herzfeld" performed a bris on a cousin in 1893 in Vienna.
Dr.Herzfeld in listed in other birth records as well. Does anyone
have any information on Dr. Herzfeld? This cousins mother's maiden name
was Hirschfeld and I was wondering if the Dr. was a relative or the
name was just a coincidence.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI
HIRSCHFELD, LINDBAUM, BUCHSBAUM -Skwarzawa, Glinyany,
Sielec Bienkow, GALICIA
MINOWITZSKI, TOBIASZ -Brest-Litovsk, BELARUS

Salomon BORG {Triesch} marries Magdalena SINGER, 1857 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

If you are related to Salmon BORG >from Triesch/Trest
[Trieschet] in Moravia or Magdalena SINGER, daughter
of H.H SINGER, a resident of Vienna, you would be very
interested in a document being auctioned on a
well-known auction site on 23 April 19.00 BST [source
Austria, probably Vienna].

The document is signed and sealed in Triesch -
16 June 1857 by the local rabbi of Triesch, Joseph
FRANKFURTER. The letter is addressed to Isaak Noah
MANNHEIMER of Vienna - to read about the famous
MANNHEIMER, Jewish preacher; born at Copenhagen Oct.
17, 1793; died at Vienna March 17, 1865 see

http://tinyurl.com/kexp7

One day I want to get to the source of this pile of
"permissions to marry" which appear on the auction
site - where could they have come from? We can
speculate that they were perhaps stored at the IKG
.... and then?

Once again thanks to Sigger Eric Elias for alerting me
to this item.

I have located this grave in Vienna which appears to
match the young couple above:

Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 5b 13 36

BORG Salomon age 75 - 11.10.1901 13.10.1901
BORG Marie age 74 - 15.08.1910 17.08.1910
SINGER Regine age 73 - 08.02.1885
BORG Leopold - 03.01.1919 05.01.1919

Nb Regine must be the mother of Marie so possibly we
have a grave here with early links to Moravia.

Possible but doubtful {found in the same grave, using
a reverse search with grave no only]

LOW [umlaut] Eduard age 73 - 15.10.1917 18.10.1937
LOW [umlaut] Henriette age 59 26.07.1904

I am not sure if the LOW couple is really buried in
the grave with BORG and SINGER - it is most probably a
computer error as group 5b is very complex and these
discrepancies frequently appear on the database with a
reverse search. Group 5b is segmented into various
areas - and the graves and their occupants in these
areas cannot readily be distinguished and identified
by a computer search.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote:

1. The direct url to this auction site is not given
because of prevailing Jewishgen rules. I will be happy
to send it to you, if you are interested. There is
hardly anytime to spare though.

2. I would like to contact Mark Tritsch who appears on
a *Triesch* search in the archives. Please has anyone
got his correct email address?

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Salomon BORG {Triesch} marries Magdalena SINGER, 1857 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

If you are related to Salmon BORG >from Triesch/Trest
[Trieschet] in Moravia or Magdalena SINGER, daughter
of H.H SINGER, a resident of Vienna, you would be very
interested in a document being auctioned on a
well-known auction site on 23 April 19.00 BST [source
Austria, probably Vienna].

The document is signed and sealed in Triesch -
16 June 1857 by the local rabbi of Triesch, Joseph
FRANKFURTER. The letter is addressed to Isaak Noah
MANNHEIMER of Vienna - to read about the famous
MANNHEIMER, Jewish preacher; born at Copenhagen Oct.
17, 1793; died at Vienna March 17, 1865 see

http://tinyurl.com/kexp7

One day I want to get to the source of this pile of
"permissions to marry" which appear on the auction
site - where could they have come from? We can
speculate that they were perhaps stored at the IKG
.... and then?

Once again thanks to Sigger Eric Elias for alerting me
to this item.

I have located this grave in Vienna which appears to
match the young couple above:

Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 5b 13 36

BORG Salomon age 75 - 11.10.1901 13.10.1901
BORG Marie age 74 - 15.08.1910 17.08.1910
SINGER Regine age 73 - 08.02.1885
BORG Leopold - 03.01.1919 05.01.1919

Nb Regine must be the mother of Marie so possibly we
have a grave here with early links to Moravia.

Possible but doubtful {found in the same grave, using
a reverse search with grave no only]

LOW [umlaut] Eduard age 73 - 15.10.1917 18.10.1937
LOW [umlaut] Henriette age 59 26.07.1904

I am not sure if the LOW couple is really buried in
the grave with BORG and SINGER - it is most probably a
computer error as group 5b is very complex and these
discrepancies frequently appear on the database with a
reverse search. Group 5b is segmented into various
areas - and the graves and their occupants in these
areas cannot readily be distinguished and identified
by a computer search.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote:

1. The direct url to this auction site is not given
because of prevailing Jewishgen rules. I will be happy
to send it to you, if you are interested. There is
hardly anytime to spare though.

2. I would like to contact Mark Tritsch who appears on
a *Triesch* search in the archives. Please has anyone
got his correct email address?