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info on KAMINER or KAMERER family #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

My g-grmother Minnie FARBER MOLDAWSKY had a sister, Sarah FARBER who
married Eli KAMERER (or KAMINER/KAMENER)- they were both born in Russia
(in 1867-1869 depending on which census you take the info from),
probably Zhitomir or nearby. He arrived in NY in 1896 (or 1898) and she
arrived with children in 1899 (or 1901). Their children's names were:
Elizabeth (b 1895), Sophie (b 1888), Hannah (b 1893), Herman (b 1890),
Ruth (1897). I have found them in Bklyn, NY on the 1910 and 1930
census, and think I may have found Eli, Sarah and Herman in the Mount
Carmel, NY cemetery - does anyone have these names in their family? I
have no idea who any of them married, or who their descendants may be.

Thanks

Janette Silverman
Phoenix, AZ

Searching:
MOLDAWSKY/MOLDOFSKY/MOLDAVSKY - Zhitomir
MILYONCHIK (and various spellings)/MELON/MILYAN (and various spellings): Viljeka
GRASS/KREISLER: Stanislwow
SILBERMAN/BUCHBINDER: Husyatin, Suceawa

MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget
to list your surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

Looking for Guide for Ancestral Visit to eastern Galicia and western Ukraine #ukraine

Mel Werbach <mel@...>
 

To celebrate our 40th wedding anniversary, my wife and
I are planning an ancestral visit to her mother's
shtetl (Zolynia in eastern Galicia) and my father's
shtetl (Felshtin/Gvardeskoye, Volhynia guberniya,
Ukraine).

Recommendations for a tour guide would be most
appreciated.

Mel Werbach
Los Angeles

Researching HORENSTEIN, KOMISAR, KANFER,
KORENBLIT,VERBUKH >from Volhynia, Podolia and Kiev
guberniyas, Ukraine; AUZENBERG, LEWINOWSKI or
LUDWINOWSKI, RUBINSKI, SEJNENSKI >from Suwalki, Poland;
MISHURSKY >from Kovne, Lithuania

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen info on KAMINER or KAMERER family #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

My g-grmother Minnie FARBER MOLDAWSKY had a sister, Sarah FARBER who
married Eli KAMERER (or KAMINER/KAMENER)- they were both born in Russia
(in 1867-1869 depending on which census you take the info from),
probably Zhitomir or nearby. He arrived in NY in 1896 (or 1898) and she
arrived with children in 1899 (or 1901). Their children's names were:
Elizabeth (b 1895), Sophie (b 1888), Hannah (b 1893), Herman (b 1890),
Ruth (1897). I have found them in Bklyn, NY on the 1910 and 1930
census, and think I may have found Eli, Sarah and Herman in the Mount
Carmel, NY cemetery - does anyone have these names in their family? I
have no idea who any of them married, or who their descendants may be.

Thanks

Janette Silverman
Phoenix, AZ

Searching:
MOLDAWSKY/MOLDOFSKY/MOLDAVSKY - Zhitomir
MILYONCHIK (and various spellings)/MELON/MILYAN (and various spellings): Viljeka
GRASS/KREISLER: Stanislwow
SILBERMAN/BUCHBINDER: Husyatin, Suceawa

MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget
to list your surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Looking for Guide for Ancestral Visit to eastern Galicia and western Ukraine #ukraine

Mel Werbach <mel@...>
 

To celebrate our 40th wedding anniversary, my wife and
I are planning an ancestral visit to her mother's
shtetl (Zolynia in eastern Galicia) and my father's
shtetl (Felshtin/Gvardeskoye, Volhynia guberniya,
Ukraine).

Recommendations for a tour guide would be most
appreciated.

Mel Werbach
Los Angeles

Researching HORENSTEIN, KOMISAR, KANFER,
KORENBLIT,VERBUKH >from Volhynia, Podolia and Kiev
guberniyas, Ukraine; AUZENBERG, LEWINOWSKI or
LUDWINOWSKI, RUBINSKI, SEJNENSKI >from Suwalki, Poland;
MISHURSKY >from Kovne, Lithuania

Goshcha/Hoshcha #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

Is anyone familiar with the town of Hoshcha? I recently learned that my
grandfather was >from this town in Ukraine. I would like to contact someone
that could perhaps find any records of HIMMELFARB/HIMELFARB/GIMELFARB living
there in the 1800's. It's a long shot, I know.

Regards,
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Goshcha/Hoshcha #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

Is anyone familiar with the town of Hoshcha? I recently learned that my
grandfather was >from this town in Ukraine. I would like to contact someone
that could perhaps find any records of HIMMELFARB/HIMELFARB/GIMELFARB living
there in the 1800's. It's a long shot, I know.

Regards,
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA

Fw: Birth Record from Odessa Archives #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I have posted a birth record page >from the Odessa Archives. It is on
ViewMate # VM7759.

The first entry is the record for my father, Moise Himmelfarb.
Maybe the other entries belong to an ancestor of a fellow Jewishgen reader.

It would be wonderful if someone could translate this document.

Thank you,
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA

Moderator Comment: Please reply privately

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Fw: Birth Record from Odessa Archives #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I have posted a birth record page >from the Odessa Archives. It is on
ViewMate # VM7759.

The first entry is the record for my father, Moise Himmelfarb.
Maybe the other entries belong to an ancestor of a fellow Jewishgen reader.

It would be wonderful if someone could translate this document.

Thank you,
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA

Moderator Comment: Please reply privately

Re: registration versus living location #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"David Kravitz" <david_kravitz@...> wrote
This new list is available for review and correction later in the year and
becomes the voters' list for the next 12 months in February the following
year. Contrary to what Nick states, no changes can then be made until the
next process starts the following summer. If a person moves, they must
travel back to their old location to vote and if inconvenient, they can
apply for a postal vote.
I have just checked with the website of my local (UK) council regarding
electoral registration. I had thought that the situation was as stated by
myself and David Kravitz - that the register was updated on an annual basis.

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/CouncilDemocracy/DemocracyElections/
ElectionsVoting_EXTRA.htm

The legislation must have recently changed for it states that names can be
added to the register on a monthly basis between 1 December and 30 August
each year.

This is described elsewhere as the "rolling registration process" and was
apparently introduced in February 2001.

The present system is reviewed and options for change are examined in
http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/notes/snpc-03031.pdf

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: registration versus living location #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"David Kravitz" <david_kravitz@...> wrote
This new list is available for review and correction later in the year and
becomes the voters' list for the next 12 months in February the following
year. Contrary to what Nick states, no changes can then be made until the
next process starts the following summer. If a person moves, they must
travel back to their old location to vote and if inconvenient, they can
apply for a postal vote.
I have just checked with the website of my local (UK) council regarding
electoral registration. I had thought that the situation was as stated by
myself and David Kravitz - that the register was updated on an annual basis.

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/CouncilDemocracy/DemocracyElections/
ElectionsVoting_EXTRA.htm

The legislation must have recently changed for it states that names can be
added to the register on a monthly basis between 1 December and 30 August
each year.

This is described elsewhere as the "rolling registration process" and was
apparently introduced in February 2001.

The present system is reviewed and options for change are examined in
http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/notes/snpc-03031.pdf

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

registration versus living location #general

asbury8@...
 

Ruth Hyman writes:

<< I am trying somewhat fruitlessly to find a real explanation of why
someone would be registered in one town but living in another. If
someone was originally registered, for example, in Pikiliai, did he stay
on that list through all revisions until a brand new list (it seems
there were 10 all together) was made? Forever?>>

Some of this was explained to me when I was in Poland earlier this year,
although I still am not 100% clear.

Families tended to stay registered in their original towns, however that
would be defined, sometimes even when they moved elsewhere. Women, however,
were not considered on their own; when a woman married, she became a permanent
resident of wherever her husband was a resident. I assume prior to that she
was a permanent resident of wherever her father was was permanent resident,
and did not have residency in her own right. So, if a woman >from Family A,
permanent residents of Lodz, married a man >from Family B, permanent residents
of Warsaw, now that woman also was a permanent resident of Warsaw. It also
was explained to me that a third city could be involved...one of permanent
residency, one of where one actually lives, and I am no longer sure re the third
idea....

I also find this confusing. I have asked someone who knows more than I for
some clarification and will let you know if I receive any!

Tali Segal
Philadelphia, PA area

Researching SALMONOWITZ / ZELMANOWICZ, DZIALOSZYNSKI, FERENBACH, MAUS
(mostly Lodz); MAZURKIEWICZ (mostly Lodz, Skierniewice & France (maybe MAZUR));
LIPFELD (Lodz & Switzerland); CEDERBAUM (Poland); GREENFELD / GRUNFELD (UK),
SIERPINSKI (Aleksandrow & Lodz), BRAM, ZAND (Lodz +): family of Benjamin MUNTER
(Israel); Rav. AKIVA EGER and a GERRE REBBE or RABBI (unsure which!); SEGAL
(PA, Russia), ESTERLITZ (NY, Russia)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen registration versus living location #general

asbury8@...
 

Ruth Hyman writes:

<< I am trying somewhat fruitlessly to find a real explanation of why
someone would be registered in one town but living in another. If
someone was originally registered, for example, in Pikiliai, did he stay
on that list through all revisions until a brand new list (it seems
there were 10 all together) was made? Forever?>>

Some of this was explained to me when I was in Poland earlier this year,
although I still am not 100% clear.

Families tended to stay registered in their original towns, however that
would be defined, sometimes even when they moved elsewhere. Women, however,
were not considered on their own; when a woman married, she became a permanent
resident of wherever her husband was a resident. I assume prior to that she
was a permanent resident of wherever her father was was permanent resident,
and did not have residency in her own right. So, if a woman >from Family A,
permanent residents of Lodz, married a man >from Family B, permanent residents
of Warsaw, now that woman also was a permanent resident of Warsaw. It also
was explained to me that a third city could be involved...one of permanent
residency, one of where one actually lives, and I am no longer sure re the third
idea....

I also find this confusing. I have asked someone who knows more than I for
some clarification and will let you know if I receive any!

Tali Segal
Philadelphia, PA area

Researching SALMONOWITZ / ZELMANOWICZ, DZIALOSZYNSKI, FERENBACH, MAUS
(mostly Lodz); MAZURKIEWICZ (mostly Lodz, Skierniewice & France (maybe MAZUR));
LIPFELD (Lodz & Switzerland); CEDERBAUM (Poland); GREENFELD / GRUNFELD (UK),
SIERPINSKI (Aleksandrow & Lodz), BRAM, ZAND (Lodz +): family of Benjamin MUNTER
(Israel); Rav. AKIVA EGER and a GERRE REBBE or RABBI (unsure which!); SEGAL
(PA, Russia), ESTERLITZ (NY, Russia)

Electoral registers in UK #general

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

David Kravitz wrote:

The principle for electoral registration in England has not changed over the
last fifty years or so. Each summer every household is sent a registration
form by the local council which the head of the household must complete by
law. There is a qualification date which, if memory serves me correctly, is
either September 10 or October 10. The householder lists all the occupants
of the house over 18 plus any who will achieve that milestone during the
next 12 months. Clearly anyone who previously lived in the house
but who has died or moved away will *not* be listed.

While this is the theory, practice in the UK among electoral
registration officers differs.

Typically, if a householder misses a name off the registration form,
the Registration Office treats this as a potential error and will
continue to list missing former residents for one or more years.
I have seen this happen on numerous occasions.

In my own household, persons no longer living at home (and therefore
omitted >from the registration form) have continued to be listed on
the register.

The upshot for genealogists is that the electoral roll; is a useful
guide to home occupancy, but cannot be treated as wholly reliable
evidence.

When a name first appears on the roll, it is pretty safe to assume
that the person named is now living ay the address (though one cannot
be sure for how long!). By the time a name has been removed >from the
list, some considerable time may have elapsed since the person
concerned left the address.

Perets Mett
London, England

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Electoral registers in UK #general

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

David Kravitz wrote:

The principle for electoral registration in England has not changed over the
last fifty years or so. Each summer every household is sent a registration
form by the local council which the head of the household must complete by
law. There is a qualification date which, if memory serves me correctly, is
either September 10 or October 10. The householder lists all the occupants
of the house over 18 plus any who will achieve that milestone during the
next 12 months. Clearly anyone who previously lived in the house
but who has died or moved away will *not* be listed.

While this is the theory, practice in the UK among electoral
registration officers differs.

Typically, if a householder misses a name off the registration form,
the Registration Office treats this as a potential error and will
continue to list missing former residents for one or more years.
I have seen this happen on numerous occasions.

In my own household, persons no longer living at home (and therefore
omitted >from the registration form) have continued to be listed on
the register.

The upshot for genealogists is that the electoral roll; is a useful
guide to home occupancy, but cannot be treated as wholly reliable
evidence.

When a name first appears on the roll, it is pretty safe to assume
that the person named is now living ay the address (though one cannot
be sure for how long!). By the time a name has been removed >from the
list, some considerable time may have elapsed since the person
concerned left the address.

Perets Mett
London, England

Re: registration versus living location #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"David Kravitz" <david_kravitz@...> wrote
Nick Landau wrote

As someone who has been involved in fighting elections, I know that when
one calls at a house, the name on the register will sometimes (not often)
be the name of the previous occupier - who in some cases might not have
been living there for quite a while. The names on the register are not
generally removed unless a form is received >from the household indicating
that a new family is living there.

This new list is available for review and correction later in the year and
becomes the voters' list for the next 12 months in February the following
year. Contrary to what Nick states, no changes can then be made until the
next process starts the following summer. If a person moves, they must
travel back to their old location to vote and if inconvenient, they can
apply for a postal vote.
I specifically stated in an earlier introduction "In the UK an electoral register
is revised and issued annually" so I think that any later remarks would have
been read in that context.

As a market researcher and former election officer for a political party
locally I am well aware of the situation that pertained in the late 1970's
in the UK.

My recent experience has been as a householder and elector, and I can
confirm generally Harold Pollin's comments.

As for appearing on the register in two different places, when I was a
student I appeared on the register in both my home town and my university
town. I could vote in local elections in both places, but I had to choose
which parliamentary election I could vote in. Students were encouraged to
vote (by political parties) in the constituency where their vote might more
greatly affect the result.

My original intention in drawing on my experience in these matters was not
for the purposes of a discourse on modern UK electoral registration, but to
maybe highlight general issues regarding registration over time.

I wasn't writing a manual on the subject but I am sure that I can point to
relevant websites if anyone is interested.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: registration versus living location #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"David Kravitz" <david_kravitz@...> wrote
Nick Landau wrote

As someone who has been involved in fighting elections, I know that when
one calls at a house, the name on the register will sometimes (not often)
be the name of the previous occupier - who in some cases might not have
been living there for quite a while. The names on the register are not
generally removed unless a form is received >from the household indicating
that a new family is living there.

This new list is available for review and correction later in the year and
becomes the voters' list for the next 12 months in February the following
year. Contrary to what Nick states, no changes can then be made until the
next process starts the following summer. If a person moves, they must
travel back to their old location to vote and if inconvenient, they can
apply for a postal vote.
I specifically stated in an earlier introduction "In the UK an electoral register
is revised and issued annually" so I think that any later remarks would have
been read in that context.

As a market researcher and former election officer for a political party
locally I am well aware of the situation that pertained in the late 1970's
in the UK.

My recent experience has been as a householder and elector, and I can
confirm generally Harold Pollin's comments.

As for appearing on the register in two different places, when I was a
student I appeared on the register in both my home town and my university
town. I could vote in local elections in both places, but I had to choose
which parliamentary election I could vote in. Students were encouraged to
vote (by political parties) in the constituency where their vote might more
greatly affect the result.

My original intention in drawing on my experience in these matters was not
for the purposes of a discourse on modern UK electoral registration, but to
maybe highlight general issues regarding registration over time.

I wasn't writing a manual on the subject but I am sure that I can point to
relevant websites if anyone is interested.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Belarus)

KUSHNIR / Emigrant from Romania to Egypt #romania

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

David Thaler wrote, "I'm trying to locate my wife's g-grandfather Leon
(Leib?) KUSHNIR Place Of Birth and family history in Romania/Bessarabia."

You might find a clue by locating where others with this surname lived in
Romania in 1924/1925, according to the business directory of that date made
available by the Library of Congress. You can search the business directory
at www.kalter.org/search (scroll down to the orange area). A
Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex search for [k]ushnir reveals matches spelled as
Kusnir, Kusner, Kisner, Kasner, Kesner, Keshner, Kisznir, etc. To view an
image number that interest you, just click on the title of the corresponding
directory above the search box, and you will be directed to a Library of
Congress website, where you can type the number into the box next to the
"Turn to image" button, and then click the button.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.

Romania SIG #Romania KUSHNIR / Emigrant from Romania to Egypt #romania

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

David Thaler wrote, "I'm trying to locate my wife's g-grandfather Leon
(Leib?) KUSHNIR Place Of Birth and family history in Romania/Bessarabia."

You might find a clue by locating where others with this surname lived in
Romania in 1924/1925, according to the business directory of that date made
available by the Library of Congress. You can search the business directory
at www.kalter.org/search (scroll down to the orange area). A
Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex search for [k]ushnir reveals matches spelled as
Kusnir, Kusner, Kisner, Kasner, Kesner, Keshner, Kisznir, etc. To view an
image number that interest you, just click on the title of the corresponding
directory above the search box, and you will be directed to a Library of
Congress website, where you can type the number into the box next to the
"Turn to image" button, and then click the button.

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.

FRIEDMANN, ADLER, DOMENY, MAYER, SAFFIR, SCHWARZ, SUBAK - of Austria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <peterrohel@...>
 

Dear Genres,

I have just received abt. 760 pages >from the Austrian MA 8 archives, hoping
to find relationships between my FRIEDMANN ancestors and their families.
In a 1891 hand written "Heeg & Friedmann" factory in Sternberg (now Sternberk),
Moravia announcement for a Vienna newspaper, I found several new names.
Unfortunately the quality of the document is poor, some names are hard to
decipher and their relationships are not identified. I have since searched
the Vienna cemetery database, added dates and some other names buried in the
same graves. It is also the first time I came across Szenitz, Hungary.
Perhaps someone knows something about these families or where Szenitz,
Hungary is or if the town still has the same name?


Heinrich FRIEDMANN Born: abt. 1823 in Szenitz, Hungary. Occupation:
Manufacturer. Married: in Prostejov/Prossnitz, Czech. Died: Mar 9, 1891
in Vienna + (?)
Dr. Hugo FRIEDMANN Born: 1851 in unknown Died: Mar 20, 1922 in Vienna.
Occupation: Attorney in Vienna + (?)
Ludwig FRIEDMANN Born: unknown Died: Jun 27, 1920 in Vienna. Occupation:
Manufacturer in Sternberg (now Sternberk), Moravia + (?)
*Bernhard FRIEDMANN Born: 1835 in unknown Died: Jan 16, 1900 in Vienna I,
Schottenring 32 + Auguste MORAWETZ Born: 1845 in unknown Died: Jun 25,
1923
**(Bernhard + Auguste are my gg-grandparents)

Other names mentioned in the document:

Auguste (Friedmann) MAYER Born: 1863 Died: Feb 23, 1921
*in the same grave is: Edmund MAYER Born: 1854 Buried: May 29, 1929
Malvine (Friedmann) SAFFIR
Adeline (Friedmann) SAFFIR
M? (Friedmann) DOMENY?
Leopoldine? (Friedmann) SUBAK?

Dr. Ernst ADLER
People buried in the same graves as above:
Rosa FRIEDMANN Born: 1825 Died: Sep 11, 1900
Leontine FRIEDMANN Born: 1862 Died: Mar 20, 1941
Sofie FRIEDMANN Born: 1865 Died: Feb 08, 1940
Malvine FRIEDMANN Born 1895 Died: Mar 22, 1896
Sofie SCHWARZ Born: 1846 Died: Aug 16, 1919
Moritz SCHWARZ Born: 1844 Buried: Oct 30, 1924

Note: In abt. 1850, the FRIEDMANN family started a "Textile" business in
Sternberg (now Sternberk), Moravia. In 1852, Anton Heeg, Ignatz Schottik and
Heinrich FRIEDMANN formed a firm named "Heeg, Schottik & Friedmann". In 1863
Johann Kuntner sold the "current post office" factory building to Anton Heeg
& Heinrich FRIEDMANN. In 1868 the partnership dissolved, Anton sold his
share to Heinrich and a new larger factory was built. Heinrich died in 1891,
Ludwig FRIEDMANN inherited the building and sold it in 1909. *In 1908,
Arthur FRIEDMANN (my great-grandfather) bought Ludwig's shares and became
the sole owner of "Heeg & Friedmann".

*Son of Bernhard above: Arthur FRIEDMANN Born: Jul 12, 1877 in Vienna
Died: Feb 06 or 15, 1929 in Berlin, Germany on a business trip. Occupation:
Textile Manufacturer in Vienna & Sternberg (k), Mor. + Leonie
Born: Mar 31, 1884 in Vienna Married: Mar 25, 1906 in Vienna. Died: Jan 26,
1966 in New York, NY.

Thank you for your help,

Peter Rohel, Toronto, Canada
peterrohel@...
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/names/friedmann/friedmanndes.html
Rohel-Bach-Bohm-Loeb + Associates (genealogy web site with 3600 names)
http://tinyurl.com/fdyky

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech FRIEDMANN, ADLER, DOMENY, MAYER, SAFFIR, SCHWARZ, SUBAK - of Austria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <peterrohel@...>
 

Dear Genres,

I have just received abt. 760 pages >from the Austrian MA 8 archives, hoping
to find relationships between my FRIEDMANN ancestors and their families.
In a 1891 hand written "Heeg & Friedmann" factory in Sternberg (now Sternberk),
Moravia announcement for a Vienna newspaper, I found several new names.
Unfortunately the quality of the document is poor, some names are hard to
decipher and their relationships are not identified. I have since searched
the Vienna cemetery database, added dates and some other names buried in the
same graves. It is also the first time I came across Szenitz, Hungary.
Perhaps someone knows something about these families or where Szenitz,
Hungary is or if the town still has the same name?


Heinrich FRIEDMANN Born: abt. 1823 in Szenitz, Hungary. Occupation:
Manufacturer. Married: in Prostejov/Prossnitz, Czech. Died: Mar 9, 1891
in Vienna + (?)
Dr. Hugo FRIEDMANN Born: 1851 in unknown Died: Mar 20, 1922 in Vienna.
Occupation: Attorney in Vienna + (?)
Ludwig FRIEDMANN Born: unknown Died: Jun 27, 1920 in Vienna. Occupation:
Manufacturer in Sternberg (now Sternberk), Moravia + (?)
*Bernhard FRIEDMANN Born: 1835 in unknown Died: Jan 16, 1900 in Vienna I,
Schottenring 32 + Auguste MORAWETZ Born: 1845 in unknown Died: Jun 25,
1923
**(Bernhard + Auguste are my gg-grandparents)

Other names mentioned in the document:

Auguste (Friedmann) MAYER Born: 1863 Died: Feb 23, 1921
*in the same grave is: Edmund MAYER Born: 1854 Buried: May 29, 1929
Malvine (Friedmann) SAFFIR
Adeline (Friedmann) SAFFIR
M? (Friedmann) DOMENY?
Leopoldine? (Friedmann) SUBAK?

Dr. Ernst ADLER
People buried in the same graves as above:
Rosa FRIEDMANN Born: 1825 Died: Sep 11, 1900
Leontine FRIEDMANN Born: 1862 Died: Mar 20, 1941
Sofie FRIEDMANN Born: 1865 Died: Feb 08, 1940
Malvine FRIEDMANN Born 1895 Died: Mar 22, 1896
Sofie SCHWARZ Born: 1846 Died: Aug 16, 1919
Moritz SCHWARZ Born: 1844 Buried: Oct 30, 1924

Note: In abt. 1850, the FRIEDMANN family started a "Textile" business in
Sternberg (now Sternberk), Moravia. In 1852, Anton Heeg, Ignatz Schottik and
Heinrich FRIEDMANN formed a firm named "Heeg, Schottik & Friedmann". In 1863
Johann Kuntner sold the "current post office" factory building to Anton Heeg
& Heinrich FRIEDMANN. In 1868 the partnership dissolved, Anton sold his
share to Heinrich and a new larger factory was built. Heinrich died in 1891,
Ludwig FRIEDMANN inherited the building and sold it in 1909. *In 1908,
Arthur FRIEDMANN (my great-grandfather) bought Ludwig's shares and became
the sole owner of "Heeg & Friedmann".

*Son of Bernhard above: Arthur FRIEDMANN Born: Jul 12, 1877 in Vienna
Died: Feb 06 or 15, 1929 in Berlin, Germany on a business trip. Occupation:
Textile Manufacturer in Vienna & Sternberg (k), Mor. + Leonie
Born: Mar 31, 1884 in Vienna Married: Mar 25, 1906 in Vienna. Died: Jan 26,
1966 in New York, NY.

Thank you for your help,

Peter Rohel, Toronto, Canada
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