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finding parent names??? #general

Denise Mumphrey <dmumphre@...>
 

Hey Genner's,

I first want to thank this discussion group. Several years ago, I was
subscribed to it, and made a couple of posts before losing computer access
and not regaining it until a while ago. I made another post once I was
resubscribed, and found a "distant" cousin in California. We've been
helping each other as much as possible, and it's been great! Now for my
question to all of you.

We know we have the family connection, but we *think* that Steve's
ggrandmother was my gggrandfather's sister. The problem is that we dont
know what my gggrandfather's parents names were. Steve has a copy of the
death certificate, but says that his parents names are not on it. From
what I know, he (Frank GREENBERG) was born in Kiev, Russia, but that is
only >from word of mouth. Is there a way for us to find out what his
parents names were, and if so, where do we look?

Thanks in advance, none of you have let me down so far... :)

Denise Mumphrey
dmumphre@sandbox.intersurf.net

Searching: FELDMAN, GREENBERG, GOLDSTEIN, JACOBS (JACOBOVITZ)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen finding parent names??? #general

Denise Mumphrey <dmumphre@...>
 

Hey Genner's,

I first want to thank this discussion group. Several years ago, I was
subscribed to it, and made a couple of posts before losing computer access
and not regaining it until a while ago. I made another post once I was
resubscribed, and found a "distant" cousin in California. We've been
helping each other as much as possible, and it's been great! Now for my
question to all of you.

We know we have the family connection, but we *think* that Steve's
ggrandmother was my gggrandfather's sister. The problem is that we dont
know what my gggrandfather's parents names were. Steve has a copy of the
death certificate, but says that his parents names are not on it. From
what I know, he (Frank GREENBERG) was born in Kiev, Russia, but that is
only >from word of mouth. Is there a way for us to find out what his
parents names were, and if so, where do we look?

Thanks in advance, none of you have let me down so far... :)

Denise Mumphrey
dmumphre@sandbox.intersurf.net

Searching: FELDMAN, GREENBERG, GOLDSTEIN, JACOBS (JACOBOVITZ)


Re: Two Questions #general

Carol Levie <clevie@...>
 

I would like to add my 2-cents-worth to Ruth's reply.

Most of the reform (please note: not "reformed"--there is no such
animal) Jews that I know have ties to orthodox and conservative Judaism.
I'd venture a guess that the only ones who do not are converts. Reform
Judaism is rather "young" (though older than the conservative movement),
and the ties are only a few generations apart. The reform Jews I've
known have usually--if not always--followed Jewish naming traditions.

Carol Levie

Ruth Grant wrote:


In reply to Rose Hoffman's question "What is Yankel". Yankel is the Yiddish
name for Jacob and the Hebrew name Yaakov. As with all things pertaining to
names and naming in Jewish culture and/or traditions, the translation to
English is almost never exact and also the pronunciation of the same Yiddish
name is different in different countries. My grandfather, born in the
Volhynia Gubernia of the Ukraine was always Yankel to the family and friends
and Jacob for secular occasions. My nephew, named for him, is known as Jack
in secular circles and Yaakov to family and friends. My family is orthodox.

The friends I have in the reform branch follow the same naming traditions as
the orthodox but they have ties back to the conservative and orthodox
branches. I have no idea what the reformed custom is for those that have no
ties to orthodoxy or conservatives.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Two Questions #general

Carol Levie <clevie@...>
 

I would like to add my 2-cents-worth to Ruth's reply.

Most of the reform (please note: not "reformed"--there is no such
animal) Jews that I know have ties to orthodox and conservative Judaism.
I'd venture a guess that the only ones who do not are converts. Reform
Judaism is rather "young" (though older than the conservative movement),
and the ties are only a few generations apart. The reform Jews I've
known have usually--if not always--followed Jewish naming traditions.

Carol Levie

Ruth Grant wrote:


In reply to Rose Hoffman's question "What is Yankel". Yankel is the Yiddish
name for Jacob and the Hebrew name Yaakov. As with all things pertaining to
names and naming in Jewish culture and/or traditions, the translation to
English is almost never exact and also the pronunciation of the same Yiddish
name is different in different countries. My grandfather, born in the
Volhynia Gubernia of the Ukraine was always Yankel to the family and friends
and Jacob for secular occasions. My nephew, named for him, is known as Jack
in secular circles and Yaakov to family and friends. My family is orthodox.

The friends I have in the reform branch follow the same naming traditions as
the orthodox but they have ties back to the conservative and orthodox
branches. I have no idea what the reformed custom is for those that have no
ties to orthodoxy or conservatives.


ASCHNER, Lipo't-Budapest #general

Rakoff125
 

I understand Aschner Lipo't was a reknowned industrialist in Budapest. There
is a street, Aschner Lipo't Te'r. named for him. What district is this in? He
is buried in the neolog cemetary at Mohacs. He survived WWII and died around
1952. In the 30s he live in Ujpest. what district is this?

Does anyone know anything about him, where "his" street is, why he was so
honored, and of course, anything about his family. Patai's book referrs to
relatives Jakab and Otto. Aschner is not a very common name, mine come >from
Vienna, Hradiste and Kosice. I've been in touch with Klaus Aschner who was
born in Breslau. I notice a number of Aschner deportees >from Trnava.

Any extra input would be most appreciated. Thank you and see you at the
conference.
regards, Linda Rakoff
Newton, MA
Searching: ASCHNER- Hradiste, Bresova, Kosice, SpisskaNova Ves ( Iglo, Yglo),
Wien; LOW'Y-Hradiste, Spisska Nova Ves; GELBERG/LIPSHITZ-Galati; GOLDMAN(N),
LANGER -Kosice, Spisska Nova Ves, Bolyar; POLATSECK-Kosice; KOOPER,
LISSAUER-Losonc, Miskolz; KOHN, STINGL: Wien, Bratislava MELTZER,
RIESENBERG, PERLBINDER, DRANSCH, LICHTENTAL, LADENHEIM-- Horodenka, Galicia;
BRETTSCHNEIDER, Galicia; BAUER, Hedwig-Wien BUCHWALD- Wien,
Budapest;RAKOFF-Kelce, Russia GORDON-Vilna


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ASCHNER, Lipo't-Budapest #general

Rakoff125
 

I understand Aschner Lipo't was a reknowned industrialist in Budapest. There
is a street, Aschner Lipo't Te'r. named for him. What district is this in? He
is buried in the neolog cemetary at Mohacs. He survived WWII and died around
1952. In the 30s he live in Ujpest. what district is this?

Does anyone know anything about him, where "his" street is, why he was so
honored, and of course, anything about his family. Patai's book referrs to
relatives Jakab and Otto. Aschner is not a very common name, mine come >from
Vienna, Hradiste and Kosice. I've been in touch with Klaus Aschner who was
born in Breslau. I notice a number of Aschner deportees >from Trnava.

Any extra input would be most appreciated. Thank you and see you at the
conference.
regards, Linda Rakoff
Newton, MA
Searching: ASCHNER- Hradiste, Bresova, Kosice, SpisskaNova Ves ( Iglo, Yglo),
Wien; LOW'Y-Hradiste, Spisska Nova Ves; GELBERG/LIPSHITZ-Galati; GOLDMAN(N),
LANGER -Kosice, Spisska Nova Ves, Bolyar; POLATSECK-Kosice; KOOPER,
LISSAUER-Losonc, Miskolz; KOHN, STINGL: Wien, Bratislava MELTZER,
RIESENBERG, PERLBINDER, DRANSCH, LICHTENTAL, LADENHEIM-- Horodenka, Galicia;
BRETTSCHNEIDER, Galicia; BAUER, Hedwig-Wien BUCHWALD- Wien,
Budapest;RAKOFF-Kelce, Russia GORDON-Vilna


Re: Metrocard online #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

Also if you are over 65 with proof you can travel for half-fare, but not on any
of these
Metrocards - you need cash. There is a senior Metrocard but it requires a photo
and
application, etc.
Paul Silverstone

Aejordan@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/15/99 11:12:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
szome@hotmail.com writes:

<< One can purchase New York City transportation fare cards (Metrocard)
online
at: http://citysearch1.hostengine.com/ >>

TO all the visitors come to New York in August be aware that we have several
different types of Metrocards. One is a pay as you go card; one is unlimited
rides for a period of time. The one for tourists which is a short-term
unlimited ride is not available in the subway system. You need to buy it at
tourist locations or >from the web-site (I guess). Yes our subway system is
getting safer in New York but if the temperate is anything like what is has
been this weekend -- you will know what is feels like to be in hell waiting
on a platform. The temperates are bad. One visit down under and everyone
will be a good little angle for ever more.
See you all in New York
Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com
Paul Silverstone
New York

paulh@aya.yale.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Metrocard online #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

Also if you are over 65 with proof you can travel for half-fare, but not on any
of these
Metrocards - you need cash. There is a senior Metrocard but it requires a photo
and
application, etc.
Paul Silverstone

Aejordan@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/15/99 11:12:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
szome@hotmail.com writes:

<< One can purchase New York City transportation fare cards (Metrocard)
online
at: http://citysearch1.hostengine.com/ >>

TO all the visitors come to New York in August be aware that we have several
different types of Metrocards. One is a pay as you go card; one is unlimited
rides for a period of time. The one for tourists which is a short-term
unlimited ride is not available in the subway system. You need to buy it at
tourist locations or >from the web-site (I guess). Yes our subway system is
getting safer in New York but if the temperate is anything like what is has
been this weekend -- you will know what is feels like to be in hell waiting
on a platform. The temperates are bad. One visit down under and everyone
will be a good little angle for ever more.
See you all in New York
Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com
Paul Silverstone
New York

paulh@aya.yale.edu


P number & CN number #general

Rose Hoffman <ARose10@...>
 

I finally have the information that I wanted for two years on my father
in law-that he became ,sort of late-considering that they came over in
1906
I want a look up to solve this mystery on his father Hyman-whom other
then the fact that he came with his older children in 1906(Anna and
Louis) I know very little if anything.
They came >from Pinsk or Vitrebsk which is now Belarus. He lived in the
United States and he remarried- had four children (2 of each) however
that is where I lost him.
Since I finally have the p number and the CN number on Louis, I
wonder how I can get any information on Hyman or his P number or CN
number. I want his cerification of arrival to but because I do not know
where he lived-I gather that this information I cannot have. I need
a"detective" to trace this down.Icannot pay a lot but I will pay some of
te expense involved..
Rose Hoffman
Mesa, Arizona

Am searching for Hoffman Hyman and Louis & wife-Anna(Terry)from
Belarus,
Frank/Wolf/Stern >from Mannheim, Germany and Weintraub/Weintraub/
Wolf-Poland and Ukraina


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen P number & CN number #general

Rose Hoffman <ARose10@...>
 

I finally have the information that I wanted for two years on my father
in law-that he became ,sort of late-considering that they came over in
1906
I want a look up to solve this mystery on his father Hyman-whom other
then the fact that he came with his older children in 1906(Anna and
Louis) I know very little if anything.
They came >from Pinsk or Vitrebsk which is now Belarus. He lived in the
United States and he remarried- had four children (2 of each) however
that is where I lost him.
Since I finally have the p number and the CN number on Louis, I
wonder how I can get any information on Hyman or his P number or CN
number. I want his cerification of arrival to but because I do not know
where he lived-I gather that this information I cannot have. I need
a"detective" to trace this down.Icannot pay a lot but I will pay some of
te expense involved..
Rose Hoffman
Mesa, Arizona

Am searching for Hoffman Hyman and Louis & wife-Anna(Terry)from
Belarus,
Frank/Wolf/Stern >from Mannheim, Germany and Weintraub/Weintraub/
Wolf-Poland and Ukraina


searching for information PERMAN #general

Yoav Epelman,TLV R&D <yoave@...>
 

Hi all
I am searching for information on my family who emigrate >from Russia to
Argentina in the end of 19th century. The surname is "PERMAN". My
ggrandmother was carpenter and his name was "Leib" he was born at 1860?. His
wife's name was "Zipora" and they had 10 children. The name of the father of
my grandmother was "Nahum Moshe" (was born in 1885 and died in 1931) and he
lived in Harson in russia. His wife's name was "Rahel Ankin". If you have
information, contact me in: yoave@nice.com

Thank you in advance
Yoav Epelman, Israel
yoave@nice.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen searching for information PERMAN #general

Yoav Epelman,TLV R&D <yoave@...>
 

Hi all
I am searching for information on my family who emigrate >from Russia to
Argentina in the end of 19th century. The surname is "PERMAN". My
ggrandmother was carpenter and his name was "Leib" he was born at 1860?. His
wife's name was "Zipora" and they had 10 children. The name of the father of
my grandmother was "Nahum Moshe" (was born in 1885 and died in 1931) and he
lived in Harson in russia. His wife's name was "Rahel Ankin". If you have
information, contact me in: yoave@nice.com

Thank you in advance
Yoav Epelman, Israel
yoave@nice.com


Re: Jews in China #austria-czech

Arthur Guttman <artest11613@...>
 

Besides what the moderator has suggested on the Home Page a number of
articles on the subject may be of interest.
The Jewish Monthly, March 1987, P.10
The Jewish Week, Jan 27/89, P.48 & Dec 21/84 P.8
Sentinel, Feb 14/91 & Feb 7/91
Hadassah Magazine Jan /85
Washington Jewish Week, Dec 7/95 & Dec 4/97
Chicago Tribune, April 25/95 P5
The N.Y.Times, Mar 2/86 P63

Arthur Guttman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews in China #general

Arthur Guttman <artest11613@...>
 

Besides what the moderator has suggested on the Home Page a number of
articles on the subject may be of interest.
The Jewish Monthly, March 1987, P.10
The Jewish Week, Jan 27/89, P.48 & Dec 21/84 P.8
Sentinel, Feb 14/91 & Feb 7/91
Hadassah Magazine Jan /85
Washington Jewish Week, Dec 7/95 & Dec 4/97
Chicago Tribune, April 25/95 P5
The N.Y.Times, Mar 2/86 P63

Arthur Guttman


SHAPIRO #general

Michael Osborn <Osbornuk@...>
 

Looking for information on my names of my great-grandparents.
I don't know if they came >from Germany, Russia or Poland


Rose Shapiro nee: Talbot died Feb 16, 1932
married to:
Hyman Shapiro ( the first name may not be correct)

Children
Esther, born before the late 1880's when they came to the USA

Sarah Libby Becker nee: Shapiro born February December 9, 1890 in NYC,
On the Lower East Side n Attorney Street, she died February 19th, 1957
At Coney Island hospital. Last known address was Surf Ave, NYC
She may have worked for the Post office at one time.

She married my Grandfather Louis Becker born approximately. 4 July 1890
Issue state NY may have been
born Coming across to America died June 1968 in Bremerton Washington. The
Birth records may have been destroyed in Fire at the Courthouse in Richmond
VA
where his parents homesteaded

Thankyou for any help in locating information on my great- grandparents

Lorriane Osborn


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SHAPIRO #general

Michael Osborn <Osbornuk@...>
 

Looking for information on my names of my great-grandparents.
I don't know if they came >from Germany, Russia or Poland


Rose Shapiro nee: Talbot died Feb 16, 1932
married to:
Hyman Shapiro ( the first name may not be correct)

Children
Esther, born before the late 1880's when they came to the USA

Sarah Libby Becker nee: Shapiro born February December 9, 1890 in NYC,
On the Lower East Side n Attorney Street, she died February 19th, 1957
At Coney Island hospital. Last known address was Surf Ave, NYC
She may have worked for the Post office at one time.

She married my Grandfather Louis Becker born approximately. 4 July 1890
Issue state NY may have been
born Coming across to America died June 1968 in Bremerton Washington. The
Birth records may have been destroyed in Fire at the Courthouse in Richmond
VA
where his parents homesteaded

Thankyou for any help in locating information on my great- grandparents

Lorriane Osborn


Re: Question about Jewish naming customs #general

alter ophir <alterdina@...>
 

Mel Werbach wrote:

According to a Ukrainian 1875 register, my great grandfather's name was
Chaim-Mechel Abramovitch Verbukh.
Based on Jewish naming customs of the time, what would *his* father's first name
have been? Mechel, Abraham, or ?? (His sons were Menachim Chaim and Shulim
Chaim.)
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Mel (Menachim) Werbach
Dear Mel,
Chaim- Mechel Abramovitch Verbukh is in the Russian custom of a person being called
also by his paternal name, Chaim-Mechel (Michal) son of Abraham Verbukh.
The conclusion is obvious, his fathers name was Abraham

Alter Ophir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Question about Jewish naming customs #general

alter ophir <alterdina@...>
 

Mel Werbach wrote:

According to a Ukrainian 1875 register, my great grandfather's name was
Chaim-Mechel Abramovitch Verbukh.
Based on Jewish naming customs of the time, what would *his* father's first name
have been? Mechel, Abraham, or ?? (His sons were Menachim Chaim and Shulim
Chaim.)
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Mel (Menachim) Werbach
Dear Mel,
Chaim- Mechel Abramovitch Verbukh is in the Russian custom of a person being called
also by his paternal name, Chaim-Mechel (Michal) son of Abraham Verbukh.
The conclusion is obvious, his fathers name was Abraham

Alter Ophir


Seeking BORNSTEIN in Chicago.... #general

s.s.goldberg <ssg25@...>
 

Around the turn of the century my grandfather's (Chaim Bornstein) brother
Morris (Moishe?) Bornstein moved to Chicago >from Prezdborz, Poland. We have
an old piece of paper in our possession that he lived on Clark or Clarke St.
My grandfather Chaim eventually moved to Radomsko where he married my
Grandmother, Ruda Koziwoda >from Pajeczno. They had nine children of which my
mother Frymcia was the fifth..My grandfather owned a Bakery in Radomsko and
lived at 12 Ul. Krakowska..
i would appreciate hearing >from anyone having information on the Chicago
branch of our family.

Sol goldberg
Montreal, Quebec
ssg25@sprint.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking BORNSTEIN in Chicago.... #general

s.s.goldberg <ssg25@...>
 

Around the turn of the century my grandfather's (Chaim Bornstein) brother
Morris (Moishe?) Bornstein moved to Chicago >from Prezdborz, Poland. We have
an old piece of paper in our possession that he lived on Clark or Clarke St.
My grandfather Chaim eventually moved to Radomsko where he married my
Grandmother, Ruda Koziwoda >from Pajeczno. They had nine children of which my
mother Frymcia was the fifth..My grandfather owned a Bakery in Radomsko and
lived at 12 Ul. Krakowska..
i would appreciate hearing >from anyone having information on the Chicago
branch of our family.

Sol goldberg
Montreal, Quebec
ssg25@sprint.ca