The New JewishGen.org Discussion Group Member Guide
What is the JewishGen.org Discussion Group?
The JewishGen.org Discussion Group unites thousands of Jewish genealogical researchers worldwide as they research their family history, search for relatives, and share information, ideas, methods, tips, techniques, and resources. The JewishGen.org Discussion Group makes it easy, quick, and fun, to connect with others around the world.
Is it Secure?
Yes. JewishGen is using a state of the art platform with the most contemporary security standards. JewishGen will never share member information with third parties.
How is the New JewishGen.org Discussion Group better than the old one?
Our old Discussion List platform was woefully antiquated. Among its many challenges: it was not secure, it required messages to be sent in Plain Text, did not support accented characters or languages other than English, could not display links or images, and had archives that were not mobile-friendly.
This new platform that JewishGen is using is a scalable, and sustainable solution, and allows us to engage with JewishGen members throughout the world. It offers a simple and intuitive interface for both members and moderators, more powerful tools, and more secure archives (which are easily accessible on mobile devices, and which also block out personal email addresses to the public).
I am a JewishGen member, why do I have to create a separate account for the Discussion Group?
As we continue to modernize our platform, we are trying to ensure that everything meets contemporary security standards. In the future, we plan hope to have one single sign-in page.
I like how the current lists work. Will I still be able to send/receive emails of posts (and/or digests)?
Yes. In terms of functionality, the group will operate the same for people who like to participate with email. People can still send a message to an email address (in this case, main@groups.JewishGen.org), and receive a daily digest of postings, or individual emails. In addition, Members can also receive a daily summary of topics, and then choose which topics they would like to read about it. However, in addition to email, there is the additional functionality of being able to read/post messages utilizing our online forum (https://groups.jewishgen.org).
Does this new system require plain-text?
No.
Can I post images, accented characters, different colors/font sizes, non-latin characters?
Yes.
Can I categorize a message? For example, if my message is related to Polish, or Ukraine research, can I indicate as such?
Yes! Our new platform allows members to use “Hashtags.” Messages can then be sorted, and searched, based upon how they are categorized. Another advantage is that members can “mute” any conversations they are not interested in, by simply indicating they are not interested in a particular “hashtag.”
Will all posts be archived?
Yes.
What happens to the archived messages on the old JewishGen Discussion Group?
All the messages will be accessible and searchable, as they have always been. In the near future, we will be migrating all of the old messages (going back to 1993) into our new platform, and at that point, we will shut down the old platform.
Are all of the JewishGen Discussion Lists being improved?
To start, we are upgrading the main JewishGen Discussion Group. In the near future, we will focus on the Discussion Groups of various JewishGen areas and projects as well (such as the previously known SIG lists, topical lists, etc).
What if I have questions or need assistance using the new Group?
Send your questions to: main+help@groups.jewishgen.org
How do I access the Group’s webpage?
Follow this link: https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main
So just to be sure - this new group will allow us to post from our mobile phones, includes images, accented characters, and non-latin characters, and does not require plain text?
Correct!
Will there be any ads or annoying pop-ups?
No.
Will the current guidelines change?
Yes. While posts will be moderated to ensure civility, and that there is nothing posted that is inappropriate (or completely unrelated to genealogy), we will be trying to create an online community of people who regulate themselves, much as they do (very successfully) on Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook.
What are the new guidelines?
There are just a few simple rules & guidelines to follow:
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Topics: Posts should relate to Jewish genealogy. We do not discuss religious issues (such as "Who is a Jew" and other discussions that are frequently raised within the context of researching one's roots).
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Commercial Posts: We welcome everyone, including other non-profit organizations, to share commercial offers as long as they are related to Jewish genealogy, and that those posting them do not abuse the privilege. Commercial posts should not repeat more than once every three months. (For example: authors should feel free to post about recent book publications, etc., just please try not to abuse the privilege).
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Language: The official language of the group is English, but we can accept messages and content in most languages. If posting something in a language other than English, please provide a sentence describing the content.
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The JewishGen.org Team
Servant of the Baron Hirsch School
#Galicia
barbarakrasner@...
Through the JRI-Poland database, I recently found in the Kozlow (Galicia) birth records of my great-aunts an interesting description for my great-grandfather: He was a servant of the Baron Hirsch School in Kozlow. His occupation was a butcher. Has anyone else ever come across a Baron Hirsch affiliation in metrical records? Has anyone suggestions for resources about Baron Hirsch schools and initiatives in eastern Galicia?
Barbara Krasner Somerset, NJ Researching in Kozlow: Seife, Sass, Zuckerkandel, Amildank/Himeldank/Hameldank/Nachmicz
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JWasserst@...
JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF LONG ISLAND Next Meeting Topic Is:
Transcarpathia: Eastern Slovak and Ukrainian Jewish Research with Jordan Ausländer
Jordan will discuss the genealogically relevant records that are available in and outside the Slovak Republic and Ukraine from a region that was in the 20th century Hungary, Czechoslovakia, USSR, and Ukraine. He will share advice, based on his own visits to the region on how to focus your search to minimize opportunities for bureaucratic errors.
Jordan is a professional genealogical researcher, lecturer and expert witness. His publications include a Genealogical Gazetteer of the Kingdom of Hungary, the Index to Vital Records in the Slovak State Archive System, and articles in Avotaynu and other periodicals.
Sunday, November 24, 2019, at 2:00 pm MID ISLAND Y JCC 45 MANETTO HILL ROAD PLAINVIEW, NEW YORK WWW.MIYJCC.ORG
Admission is free and all are Welcome. Our “Mavens” are available at 1:30 PM to take your genealogy questions.
Jackie Wasserstein Past President
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DAVID GOLDBERG PETITION ... WRONG FAMILY
Joan Parker
Hello. I have a four-page petition for DAVID GOLDBERG, US District
Court, Brooklyn, NY. . DoB: Dec 5, 1870; Tailor; address is on Delancy Street; ETA Dec 25, 1890. Witness Morris Saphirstein. David was naturalized on Apr 3,1899. If this is your David I'll mail it to you as it is too big to scan on my home printer. Joan Parker Past President/Archivist JGS of Greater Miami, Inc. 1) GOLDBERG, GOULD, GOODSTEIN/GUDSTEIN, BERGER, JAGODA-Lipno and Plock,Poland-Russia; Warsaw, Poland-Russia; Galveston, TX; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY. 2) PARKER, PINKUS/PINCUS, WINOGRAD, (GERSHO-BEROVNA?)., R0SEN, -Brest (Litovsk), Belarus; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY. WEISS, NEIKRUG, DEL PINO--Brooklyn, NY. RABWIN--Hollywood, CA, Salt Lake City, UT.. 3) GELFAND, KRITZOFF, KATZ, TROCK --Berezin/Bresin, Kodima, Minsk, Belarus, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.
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Translation request - Hebrew - Avraham Zvi Hersch BEUTEL gravestone
#Translations
Selma Sheridan
A photo of the gravestone of my great-grandfather, Avraham Zvi Hersch
BEUTEL, in Hebrew, is posted at the following address: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75827. Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Please provide a translation of every word, as we know so little about him and are searching for clues. Is there a notation of the names of his parents or other family members, or his place of birth? Many thanks in advance, Selma Sigal Sheridan Oswego NY
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Looking for a HERSZKOWICZ family from Rawa Mazowiecka, Lodz (names covering 1820-1874)
avreimale@...
Hello all,
I am searching (again) for a Herszkowicz family, this time with added info, assembled by me making "reliable guesses" using JRI search.
Here are the family details:
Place: Rawa Mazowiecka, Lodz, Poland
Individuals:
Moshe Michael HERSZKOWICZ, married to Chana nee BIRENCWAJG/BIRENTZWEIG) (daughter of Nossen) - both must have been born around 1820. Children:
Perla Laja (1845) Wolf Hersz (1845) Izrael Aron (1846-1852) Blima Ryfka (1852) Nusen Abram married to Tz*** Feige nee Krel Son: Mendel Majer, married to Chaja Necha nee Kano/Kahana (1874) - my family If any of you relate to any of the names above, please reply back.
Thank you, Avraham Yehoshua Kahana Israel
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France to be First County in EU to Introduce Facial Recognition Software for Government Services
#France
Jan Meisels Allen
Facial recognition technology, especially when used by government agencies is controversial. France has announced it will be the first European Union country to introduce facial recognition software for government services. Once implemented it will give users access to approximately 500 government websites. France says the program will not keep tabs on its residents, as it won’t be integrating the facial recognition biometric into citizens’ identity databases.
How it works
A new government app, Alicem, is based on facial recognition software. One takes a video of their face on their smart phone and uploads the video to a government server. This server has the information collected from the person’s data from their biometric passports or electronic residence permit. This is in Beta testing now but expected to go live by later this year.
Not All Agree Its Legal
Some believe this is a violation of the General Data Protection Regulation which bans facial recognition systems with some exceptions—such as when the person gives consent for use of the software. Frances’ data regulator, CNIL says the GDPR makes free choice mandatory is very concerned over this program.
Concerns range from proper lighting, use of makeup and position of the person in relationship to the camera compared with the photograph used to against it—especially if the photograph is an older one.
Martin Drago, a legal expert at La Quadrature du Net, a group that defends digital rights and civil liberties and which is suing the government at France's highest court of appeals, Conseil d’Etat. That decision is expected in a few months. Bloomberg News reported that a hacker was able to break into the government app in just over one hour.
There is legislation in the French Parliament to create a framework for wide-ranging tests of facial recognition technology. To read more see: https://www.dw.com/en/france-embraces-facial-recognition-tech/a-51106489 and
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Germany Easing of Restoration of German Citizenship for Descendants of Nazi Persecution
#Germany
Jan Meisels Allen
The German Federal Ministry of the Interior eased the rules regarding restoration of citizenship for descendants of victims of National Socialist persecution. Under certain circumstances some individuals may more easily acquire German citizenship. The edict was dated August 30, 2019.
Those who stand to benefit include:
and, in most cases, their descendants.
The edict may be read at: https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/pressemitteilungen/DE/2019/08/wiedergutmachung-ns-verbrechen.html It is in German. However, if you use Chrome as your browser it will translate it, or use a translation service such as
You may also read a release from the German Missions in the United States which explains the existing law and information on obtaining German citizenship. It also has a link for the application for naturalization. See: https://www.germany.info/us-en/service/03-Citizenship/restoration-of-german-citizenship/925120 This is available in both English and German which you can chose at the upper right of the page.
https://www.dw.com/en/descendants-of-nazi-era-jews-fight-for-german-citizenship/a-50211163
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: An Article About The Old Cemetery in Brody
thefamilykeeper@...
Where did you see reference to this article? I am interested in knowing more about my Weintraub and Rohr family from Brody. Thank you,
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Re: DAVID GOLDBERG PETITION ... WRONG FAMILY
jbsilverman@...
This could be my great grandfather. Was he married at the time to a Lena weingard?
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Looking for descendants of one Tzipora Rosner that lived at Kiriat Amal, Borochov street, Israel - on 1955
avreimale@...
Hi, if any of the israeli genners can easily trace descendants of one Tzipora Rosner that lived at Kiriat Amal, Borochov street, on 1955
please reply back. Thank you in advance, Avraham Yehoshua Kahana Israel
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JOWBR & Memorial Plaques Databases Year-End Update Reminder
Nolan Altman
The review process for the semi-annual update for JewishGen’s JOWBR (https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/) and Memorial Plaques (https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/) databases has begun. The year-end update will include submissions received by November 30th and should go live in December.
The following update will include all submissions received by May 31, 2020 and will be uploaded in June, prior to the summer IAJGS Conference in San Diego.
If you have any complete cemeteries or cemetery sections to submit, please contact me directly at NAltman@...
Nolan
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MILLER family from Lowicz, Poland
avreimale@...
I am looking for the following family Miller family from Lowicz:
Israel Miller married to Chana nee Faust(?)
Children:
Rivka Miriam (1860)
Avraham Yonah (Abram Janas) (1864)
Suea Szprinca (1865)
Specifically, I am interested in the descendants of Rivka Miriam, who married to Shmuel Wolf Sczuciner, from my family.
If this relates to you, please reply back.
Thank you in advance,
Avraham Yehoshua Kahana
Israel
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Searching for Switzerland 1938 information about Bernhard SIGAL
Selma Sheridan
Please help me to find information about my father's stay in Switzerland in
summer 1938. Bernhard SIGAL was a medical student at University of Vienna. On 11 July 1938, the day before he was to be sent to Dachau, he fled from Vienna to German- speaking St. Gallen in neutral Switzerland, although he knew no one there. (He could not convince his parents to leave, and they perished in 1941.) Here is what my father told me about his stay in Switzerland. He crawled over a bridge near the border, bullets flying overhead. He stayed in the "bridal suite" of a hotel in St. Gallen on the first night, as all other rooms were occupied, and the hotel owner took pity on him. He was penniless, and received some money from "the Rothschilds". After about 2 weeks somewhere in Switzerland, he received a letter from his parents, saying the SA had come to arrest him the day after he fled; he did not say if he wrote back to them. He crossed from Switzerland into France, and reached the home of his cousins in Lens, Nord Pas-de-Calais. This is how I have searched so far, in 2002: Schweizerisches Bundesarchiv, Bern - they had only his name, and that he arrived and left in 1938, so he must have reported twice to an official organization. Staatsarchiv, St. Gallen - no documents. Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich - no information. I have not read Henry Spira's 2010 book, "Daily Events at the Jurassic frontier 1939-1945", since it seems to exclude 1938. Questions: How and where would Jewish refugees seek financial aid from the Rothchilds in Switzerland? Does the Swiss Rothschild family have contact information, or historical records? Or was it the Montefiore family, or another charitable organization? Were there transit camps for refugees? How could my father receive mail from his parents, since they did not know his address? Were there organizations which helped refugees to exchange mail? What is the likeliest place where my father could have crossed the border illegally from Switzerland into France? Is it worth contacting the 3 Swiss organizations above for updates? Are there other organizations which have kept records about Jewish refugees to Switzerland in 1938? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Many thanks in advance, Selma Sigal Sheridan Oswego NY
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name translation help
Trudy Barch
Jankiel and Srzwa Rosenbaum and their children Sonia, Klara, Filda immigrated from Poland around 1920 to New York. Any suggestions what SRZWA AND FILDA could be in America? Where could I possibly look to find a Polish or Russia translation of names? Thank you, Trudy Barch, FLorida
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Re: name translation help
Barbara Mannlein
It’s a good idea to include the link to the document to which you refer (or a screen shot). I checked for a manifest and located this one on A.
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I do not see a wife named Srzwa. However, I do see SZYWA, which might be Sheva. Searching for the family in census records, I find them on the 1925 NY State Census: Jacob, wife Shewa,, dtrs Sonia and Klara (Shewa mistranscribed as Iowa, Sonia as Lonio!! The third child is on not the 1925 census… and I have no idea what FIRLA or FIKLA might be. Barbara Mannlein Tucson, AZ
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Re: name translation help
Deanna Levinsky
Not a Polish first name, maybe Russian
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Re: name translation help
malka_f1@...
Szywa could be the Polish/Jewish name: Cywia? Regards Malka (London, UK)
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Re: name translation help
Eleanor Richmond
Deanna Levinsky: Yiddish-German name= Ella Elka English might be Elsie or mine is Eleanor
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Searching for SCHLIESZER in Sombor
Amit N
Hello all,
I am trying to find information regarding a SCHLIESZER family from Sombor, present day Serbia. Specifically I am interested in the family of Sandor SCHLIESZER who married at one time Berta SINGER (b. 1877). In an uncommon step for that time, they divorced - were there records for such an act? They apparently had two children together: Erzsebet and Imre. If anyone has some information about them I would be very grateful. Best regards, Amit Naor Israel
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Descendants of SCHLAMA/SHLOMO/SALOMON TEICHER
#Galicia
#advice
#Help
#Poland
#Austria-Czech
anafa-e@...
Dear Genners,
SCHLAMA TEICHER/SCHLOMO/SALOMON TEICHER (1870-1932) lived and died in RUDNIK nad Sanem or in ZALUCE both in Galicia, Poland.His parents CHUNE TEICHER and GITTEL KRAMER . All this data is from JRI Poland. CHUNE and GITTEL were also the parents of my husband's paternal grandfather. It will be braking a wall finding his descendants. The main Holocaust archives were searched carefully, so a the data provided in JG, Gesher Galicia and Bad Arolsen Archive. If there are descendants they might be 2nd cousins to my husband, since there is no extended family. Any idea what to do? How to find them? Thanks, Leah Teicher anafa-e@...
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