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Re: Baron HIRSCH #belarus

JPadgug@...
 

My great-grandfather was buried in a section run by the Baron Hirsch
organization in New York. Is there anyway to locate records of those
that he helped....especially like where some of these people actually
originated from. In all the records that we've obtained so far, they
only say the empire of Russia as point of origin.

Also, I remember seeing a lot of turn of the century photos in a book,
I can't remember the name, of students that attended a school or schools
that he opened for the emigrants.

Judy Padgug
JPadgug@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/Padgug/Familytree.html

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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Baron HIRSCH #belarus

JPadgug@...
 

My great-grandfather was buried in a section run by the Baron Hirsch
organization in New York. Is there anyway to locate records of those
that he helped....especially like where some of these people actually
originated from. In all the records that we've obtained so far, they
only say the empire of Russia as point of origin.

Also, I remember seeing a lot of turn of the century photos in a book,
I can't remember the name, of students that attended a school or schools
that he opened for the emigrants.

Judy Padgug
JPadgug@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/Padgug/Familytree.html

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DUBETSKY, NAJMAN, NAJMARK families of Kobrin #belarus

Martin Miller <millerm@...>
 

Those of you with Kobrin connections and web access please have a look
at a photo on my web site at http://web.syr.edu/~millerm/zadiebw.jpg.

This picture was taken during my grandfather's visit to Kobrin in 1932.
His name was Osher DUBETSKY, however in the US he was known as Sam DUBIN.
His mother was Sarah Rifka GOLUBOVITCH. Two sisters remained in Kobrin
with their husbands.

My grandfather is in the center of the picture with his mother to the
right.

At the left is his sister Pesha Chaya NAJMAN and her husband, whose
first name is not known. At the right is sister Maram Itke NAJMARK
and her husband Yankel. There are five children in the family group. The two boys in the window were neighbors. Both sisters were pregnant at the time the picture was taken. One had twins. So there were at least eight children between the two, who were my mother's first cousins.

No one in the family knows the names of these children. All are
presumed to have perished in the Holocaust. I am hoping that someone
will recognize one or more of the folks in the picture. Or does anyone
know a former resident of Kobrin that could identify them?

Martin Miller in Syracuse, NY
mailto:millerm@mailbox.syr.edu
http://web.syr.edu/~millerm/index.htm

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Belarus SIG #Belarus DUBETSKY, NAJMAN, NAJMARK families of Kobrin #belarus

Martin Miller <millerm@...>
 

Those of you with Kobrin connections and web access please have a look
at a photo on my web site at http://web.syr.edu/~millerm/zadiebw.jpg.

This picture was taken during my grandfather's visit to Kobrin in 1932.
His name was Osher DUBETSKY, however in the US he was known as Sam DUBIN.
His mother was Sarah Rifka GOLUBOVITCH. Two sisters remained in Kobrin
with their husbands.

My grandfather is in the center of the picture with his mother to the
right.

At the left is his sister Pesha Chaya NAJMAN and her husband, whose
first name is not known. At the right is sister Maram Itke NAJMARK
and her husband Yankel. There are five children in the family group. The two boys in the window were neighbors. Both sisters were pregnant at the time the picture was taken. One had twins. So there were at least eight children between the two, who were my mother's first cousins.

No one in the family knows the names of these children. All are
presumed to have perished in the Holocaust. I am hoping that someone
will recognize one or more of the folks in the picture. Or does anyone
know a former resident of Kobrin that could identify them?

Martin Miller in Syracuse, NY
mailto:millerm@mailbox.syr.edu
http://web.syr.edu/~millerm/index.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MODERATOR:
Just a reminder: If you have photos with unrecognized persons, you can
send them to the Belarus Online Newsletter for publication. The plan is eventually to collect all such photos in a "photo album" on the Belarus
Website.
Everybody can access the Newsletter and the Website - but only members
can read the messages in this discussion group.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Re: Baron Hirsch #belarus

amy l cohen <cohenale@...>
 

My maternal grandfather, who came >from Minsk to NYC, studied in NY
at a Baron Hirsch vocational training school. I have his class picture
from about the turn of the century.
Amy Cohen
Medfield MA
cohenale@gis.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Baron Hirsch #belarus

amy l cohen <cohenale@...>
 

My maternal grandfather, who came >from Minsk to NYC, studied in NY
at a Baron Hirsch vocational training school. I have his class picture
from about the turn of the century.
Amy Cohen
Medfield MA
cohenale@gis.net


Baron Maurice de Hirsh #belarus

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

All,

Please check the archives for the Jewishgen regular list. The subject
of Baron de Hirsh and the Jewish ColonizationAssociation has been
covered extensively on several occasions.

To check the archives go to the jewishgen web page at:

http://www.jewishgen.org

Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin, Director IAJGS
Winter Park, FL
See You in Salt Lake City, July 9-14, 2000
Jewish Genealogy Conference
See: http://www.iajgs.org/slcy2k


Belarus SIG #Belarus Baron Maurice de Hirsh #belarus

Gladys Paulin <gp21603@...>
 

All,

Please check the archives for the Jewishgen regular list. The subject
of Baron de Hirsh and the Jewish ColonizationAssociation has been
covered extensively on several occasions.

To check the archives go to the jewishgen web page at:

http://www.jewishgen.org

Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin, Director IAJGS
Winter Park, FL
See You in Salt Lake City, July 9-14, 2000
Jewish Genealogy Conference
See: http://www.iajgs.org/slcy2k


Pinkas Ha-kehilot, Poland Vol.7 #poland

Carol Rombro Rider
 

The following book is offered for sale by Rubin Mass Ltd. of Jerusalem,
Israel. If interested you can reach Oren Mass at: rmass@inter.net.il
The book is in Hebrew, and reasonably priced. Please note that I have no
interest in this company other than as a satisfied customer.


Pinkas Ha-kehilot, Polin - vol. 7: Mehozot Lublin;
Keiltse/Wein,Avraham (ed.) 105027
ISBN 965-308-070-9 Jerusalem/Yad Vashem/636 pages/1999


Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA CRomRider@aol.com


JRI Poland #Poland Pinkas Ha-kehilot, Poland Vol.7 #poland

Carol Rombro Rider
 

The following book is offered for sale by Rubin Mass Ltd. of Jerusalem,
Israel. If interested you can reach Oren Mass at: rmass@inter.net.il
The book is in Hebrew, and reasonably priced. Please note that I have no
interest in this company other than as a satisfied customer.


Pinkas Ha-kehilot, Polin - vol. 7: Mehozot Lublin;
Keiltse/Wein,Avraham (ed.) 105027
ISBN 965-308-070-9 Jerusalem/Yad Vashem/636 pages/1999


Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA CRomRider@aol.com


Re: Baron HIRSCH #belarus

Michael Pincus <gate@...>
 

Is this an existing shul; the one in Halifax?

Michael Pincus

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S. Finkelstein Winn wrote:
One detail to add to the story of Baron Hirsch is that the orthodox
shul (Beth Israel) in Halifax, Nova Scotia is named the Baron de
Hirsch Congregation.
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Baron HIRSCH #belarus

Michael Pincus <gate@...>
 

Is this an existing shul; the one in Halifax?

Michael Pincus

---------------------------
S. Finkelstein Winn wrote:
One detail to add to the story of Baron Hirsch is that the orthodox
shul (Beth Israel) in Halifax, Nova Scotia is named the Baron de
Hirsch Congregation.
---------------------------


Re: Megilath Esther #general

JGyori <jgyori@...>
 

I have been asked by a cousin of mine to help in tracing the scribe
of a scroll of Esther, which he inherited >from his mother.
I didn't know it was possible to figure out the exact scribe of a megillah.
How is that possible -- does the handwriting vary that much?

My husband's family also has an old scroll - a megillah that supposedly
belonged to a great grandfather >from Husaityn, Galicia.

Was this something that was common for a family to own? Did they have to be
very wealthy? Why would one son bring it to America, when only 3 sons came
to US and the rest of the family stayed behind?

Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. I have never really
thought about the history of the Megillah that I now have in my closet. Or
ever thought it would be possible to trace independantly of family stories
--( there are none.)

Happy Hanukkah,
Judi Gyori Missel
JGyori@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Megilath Esther #general

JGyori <jgyori@...>
 

I have been asked by a cousin of mine to help in tracing the scribe
of a scroll of Esther, which he inherited >from his mother.
I didn't know it was possible to figure out the exact scribe of a megillah.
How is that possible -- does the handwriting vary that much?

My husband's family also has an old scroll - a megillah that supposedly
belonged to a great grandfather >from Husaityn, Galicia.

Was this something that was common for a family to own? Did they have to be
very wealthy? Why would one son bring it to America, when only 3 sons came
to US and the rest of the family stayed behind?

Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. I have never really
thought about the history of the Megillah that I now have in my closet. Or
ever thought it would be possible to trace independantly of family stories
--( there are none.)

Happy Hanukkah,
Judi Gyori Missel
JGyori@aol.com


Re: Need advise on how to preserve archives #general

JGLois@...
 

Eduard Dolinsky"Ed" <red@iptelecom.net.ua> wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 1999:

Hello all,

May I ask your advise on what kind of equipment should be used to copy
and storage old Jewish archives ( digital cameras, scanner, microfilm).
We are planning to launch a project on preservation of Ukrainian Jewish
archives very soon. The purpose is to create a database, to make them
avaible >online, to preserve our heritage, etc.

Old Jewish archives are in a terrible condition in Ukraine. Every day
we loosing tens of records.
>>>>SNIP

Dear Eduard and All,

I am sorry I cannot answer your primary question about storage methods.
In addition to the Infofile mentioned by the moderator it might be useful
to check with the readers of the newsgroup "soc.genealogy.methods" for the
more info.

However, I hope the moderator will indulge. We who have roots in Ukraine
faithfully read in Jewishgen about the archival record indexing projects
that seem to be going on all over the world except Ukraine! This message
from Eduard Dolinsky, comes like a ray of hope. Perhaps we can ask Eduard
to elaborate on this project. In what area of Ukraine (I am hoping for
area SE of Kiev) are they going to concentrate their first efforts?

And, does this project signal a change in attitude by the government of
Ukraine in regard to releasing archival material?

Lois Sernoff [Philadelphia, PA, US]
< JGLois@aol.com >

Researching:
MEZHIRITZKY [MERITZ][MARRITZ][MARRITS] >from Korsun & Gorodishche
(Kiev Gub. Cherkassy area) -> Phila., PA
SOSNOVSKY (var. spellings) >from Gorodishche (Kiev Gub. Cherkassy area) &
Ekaterinislav -> Phila., PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need advise on how to preserve archives #general

JGLois@...
 

Eduard Dolinsky"Ed" <red@iptelecom.net.ua> wrote on Mon, 22 Nov 1999:

Hello all,

May I ask your advise on what kind of equipment should be used to copy
and storage old Jewish archives ( digital cameras, scanner, microfilm).
We are planning to launch a project on preservation of Ukrainian Jewish
archives very soon. The purpose is to create a database, to make them
avaible >online, to preserve our heritage, etc.

Old Jewish archives are in a terrible condition in Ukraine. Every day
we loosing tens of records.
>>>>SNIP

Dear Eduard and All,

I am sorry I cannot answer your primary question about storage methods.
In addition to the Infofile mentioned by the moderator it might be useful
to check with the readers of the newsgroup "soc.genealogy.methods" for the
more info.

However, I hope the moderator will indulge. We who have roots in Ukraine
faithfully read in Jewishgen about the archival record indexing projects
that seem to be going on all over the world except Ukraine! This message
from Eduard Dolinsky, comes like a ray of hope. Perhaps we can ask Eduard
to elaborate on this project. In what area of Ukraine (I am hoping for
area SE of Kiev) are they going to concentrate their first efforts?

And, does this project signal a change in attitude by the government of
Ukraine in regard to releasing archival material?

Lois Sernoff [Philadelphia, PA, US]
< JGLois@aol.com >

Researching:
MEZHIRITZKY [MERITZ][MARRITZ][MARRITS] >from Korsun & Gorodishche
(Kiev Gub. Cherkassy area) -> Phila., PA
SOSNOVSKY (var. spellings) >from Gorodishche (Kiev Gub. Cherkassy area) &
Ekaterinislav -> Phila., PA


BORNSTEIN Family Tree #general

Ronisl@...
 

Dear JGenners,

If anyone is researching the BORNSTEIN surname, you probably want to check
out the website at << http://www.geocities.com/seflaum/Bornstein.html >>.
Click on the link on the upper right part of the page that says Jeffrey
BORNSTEIN family tree. On top of the next page there will be links to 3
branches of the family tree. We have compiled an impressive tree of his
ancestors using vital records and family reports which may connect with your
BORNSTEIN. Both guest books linked >from the webpage have messages >from
other BORNSTEINS and a few people have made connections. Jeff's other listed
family surnames are: HERSHKOWITZ, HUBERT, KALINSKA, KLUG, KLINKE, KROL,
KUMUN, LAJBTRAUT, LIBERMAN, LICHTENSZTAJN, and PROCHEWSKI >from Lodz and
Piotrkow areas of Poland and GAMPEL, KAYSA, SOSNA, and WILK >from Warsaw,
Poland, and Rovno, Urkraine areas. Take a look....you never know!!

Roni
(Mrs) Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Coordinator, Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Project,
Town Leader, Belchatow project for indexing records in Poland
Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
New York
URBACH (AUERBACH,URBACK)--We'grow,Warsaw,Radom,PO; KULSKY--(?)PO; PRZYBYLSKI
--Belchatow to Lodz,PO; PIASKOWSKY--Belchatow,PO;SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER
--Klimontow,Sandermierz,PO; Grebow,Baronov,
Rozwadow,and Zukow,Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER),MECHANIC--Minsk,Belarus;
PERLMAN (PERELMANN), GORDON--Liepaja (Libau), Aizpute (Hasenpoth), and
Jelgava (Mitau),Latvia; LIEBOWITZ--Minsk and Dubrovah,Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BORNSTEIN Family Tree #general

Ronisl@...
 

Dear JGenners,

If anyone is researching the BORNSTEIN surname, you probably want to check
out the website at << http://www.geocities.com/seflaum/Bornstein.html >>.
Click on the link on the upper right part of the page that says Jeffrey
BORNSTEIN family tree. On top of the next page there will be links to 3
branches of the family tree. We have compiled an impressive tree of his
ancestors using vital records and family reports which may connect with your
BORNSTEIN. Both guest books linked >from the webpage have messages >from
other BORNSTEINS and a few people have made connections. Jeff's other listed
family surnames are: HERSHKOWITZ, HUBERT, KALINSKA, KLUG, KLINKE, KROL,
KUMUN, LAJBTRAUT, LIBERMAN, LICHTENSZTAJN, and PROCHEWSKI >from Lodz and
Piotrkow areas of Poland and GAMPEL, KAYSA, SOSNA, and WILK >from Warsaw,
Poland, and Rovno, Urkraine areas. Take a look....you never know!!

Roni
(Mrs) Roni Seibel Liebowitz
Coordinator, Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Project,
Town Leader, Belchatow project for indexing records in Poland
Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
New York
URBACH (AUERBACH,URBACK)--We'grow,Warsaw,Radom,PO; KULSKY--(?)PO; PRZYBYLSKI
--Belchatow to Lodz,PO; PIASKOWSKY--Belchatow,PO;SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER
--Klimontow,Sandermierz,PO; Grebow,Baronov,
Rozwadow,and Zukow,Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER),MECHANIC--Minsk,Belarus;
PERLMAN (PERELMANN), GORDON--Liepaja (Libau), Aizpute (Hasenpoth), and
Jelgava (Mitau),Latvia; LIEBOWITZ--Minsk and Dubrovah,Belarus


Different marriage dates #general

Yoav Epelman,TLV R&D <yoave@...>
 

Hi
My grandparents were married on the 2/4/1940 in Entre Rios (province of
Argentina). But if you will look at the archives of Entre Rios you will
find out that they married on the 30/3/1940 and this is because in
Argentina the government made the Jews to write the marriage in the Civil
Offices before they got marriage.
Due to this fact, if you are looking marriage dates >from Argentina and you
look in the national archives and not in the "Rabanut" there, look some
days before the date you search.

Yoav Epelman
mailto:Yoave@nice.com

Searching for:
EPELMAN \ APPLEMAN >from Bessarevia (Moldova or Romania)to Villa (Entre
\ Rios, Argentina).
HENQUIN \ HENKIN >from Bobruisk (Belarus) to Villa (Entre Rios, Argentina)
PERMAN \ GOLDBERG OR GOLDENBERG >from Kherson, Novopoltavka (Ukrain) to
Basabilbaso or Santa Fe (Argentina).
YANKILEVICH \ JANKILEVICH >from Kiev (Ukrain) to Argentina (Entre Rios).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Different marriage dates #general

Yoav Epelman,TLV R&D <yoave@...>
 

Hi
My grandparents were married on the 2/4/1940 in Entre Rios (province of
Argentina). But if you will look at the archives of Entre Rios you will
find out that they married on the 30/3/1940 and this is because in
Argentina the government made the Jews to write the marriage in the Civil
Offices before they got marriage.
Due to this fact, if you are looking marriage dates >from Argentina and you
look in the national archives and not in the "Rabanut" there, look some
days before the date you search.

Yoav Epelman
mailto:Yoave@nice.com

Searching for:
EPELMAN \ APPLEMAN >from Bessarevia (Moldova or Romania)to Villa (Entre
\ Rios, Argentina).
HENQUIN \ HENKIN >from Bobruisk (Belarus) to Villa (Entre Rios, Argentina)
PERMAN \ GOLDBERG OR GOLDENBERG >from Kherson, Novopoltavka (Ukrain) to
Basabilbaso or Santa Fe (Argentina).
YANKILEVICH \ JANKILEVICH >from Kiev (Ukrain) to Argentina (Entre Rios).