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13 day delay between death and burial #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

I just learned of the whereabouts of the burial of my mgf's first
cousin. According to the cemetery records, Morris KRAMER (Ha'Levi)
died 11/20/1978 but he was not buried until 12/2/1978. I can
understand a 2-5 day delay between death and burial (need time to get
relatives together; not allowed to hold funeral due to Shabbat or
"special" Jewish days), but a 13 day span of days seems very unusual.
Since I just learned of these dates today, I have not had the
opportunity to obtain a death certificate, which would not necessarily
give me the reason for the delay.

Does anyone know of any reason that there would be an almost two week
delay between death and burial for a man whose only living family
lived within 60 miles of his place of death? I am not aware of any
logical or religious reason for such a delay. Do you?

Looking forward to hearing your suggestions. BTW, his death was not
of "suspicious" nature (that I know to be true).

Thank you,
(Mrs.) Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL


Searching RUTSTEIN #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I have today been to the Public Record Office in Kew, England and have a
copy of naturalisation papers for a Barnett Rustein, unfortunately not my
grandfather. If any one is researching this family and has a Barnett
Rustein parents Fanny and Solomon please email for details.

Regards
Darryl Mydat
Darryl.Mydat@btinternet.com

Searching: MYDAT,MYDATT, MAJDAT, MAIDAT, MADAT, RUTSTEIN, ALENICK,
JACOBOVITCH, ROSEN (Hull UK).


Searching for Lejb ZISER #general

Lili Susser <susserl@...>
 

Dear Genners
A while back I received a page of testimony >from Yad Vashem listing a Leib
Ziser, who in turn entered the testimony to Yad Vashem. Because the form is
both in Spanish and Hebrew or Yiddish I was unable to get the facts.
It concerns Blima Ziser/Susser >from Nowy Korczyn, Poland -as is the name of
my husbands mother also born there. The person who turned in this page
lives or lived in Buenos Aires, Argentina and claims to be a bro-in law.
If you know of anyone by the name Ziser in Buenos Aires, ( or anywhere
else) in Argentina or can help me find the family of the above person
please contact me personally at Susserl@mindspring.com
Thank you in advance
Lili Susser


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 13 day delay between death and burial #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

I just learned of the whereabouts of the burial of my mgf's first
cousin. According to the cemetery records, Morris KRAMER (Ha'Levi)
died 11/20/1978 but he was not buried until 12/2/1978. I can
understand a 2-5 day delay between death and burial (need time to get
relatives together; not allowed to hold funeral due to Shabbat or
"special" Jewish days), but a 13 day span of days seems very unusual.
Since I just learned of these dates today, I have not had the
opportunity to obtain a death certificate, which would not necessarily
give me the reason for the delay.

Does anyone know of any reason that there would be an almost two week
delay between death and burial for a man whose only living family
lived within 60 miles of his place of death? I am not aware of any
logical or religious reason for such a delay. Do you?

Looking forward to hearing your suggestions. BTW, his death was not
of "suspicious" nature (that I know to be true).

Thank you,
(Mrs.) Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching RUTSTEIN #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I have today been to the Public Record Office in Kew, England and have a
copy of naturalisation papers for a Barnett Rustein, unfortunately not my
grandfather. If any one is researching this family and has a Barnett
Rustein parents Fanny and Solomon please email for details.

Regards
Darryl Mydat
Darryl.Mydat@btinternet.com

Searching: MYDAT,MYDATT, MAJDAT, MAIDAT, MADAT, RUTSTEIN, ALENICK,
JACOBOVITCH, ROSEN (Hull UK).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Lejb ZISER #general

Lili Susser <susserl@...>
 

Dear Genners
A while back I received a page of testimony >from Yad Vashem listing a Leib
Ziser, who in turn entered the testimony to Yad Vashem. Because the form is
both in Spanish and Hebrew or Yiddish I was unable to get the facts.
It concerns Blima Ziser/Susser >from Nowy Korczyn, Poland -as is the name of
my husbands mother also born there. The person who turned in this page
lives or lived in Buenos Aires, Argentina and claims to be a bro-in law.
If you know of anyone by the name Ziser in Buenos Aires, ( or anywhere
else) in Argentina or can help me find the family of the above person
please contact me personally at Susserl@mindspring.com
Thank you in advance
Lili Susser


Brody, Ukraine Yizkor Book Translation #general

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Through the kind assistance of Yitzhak Zorne (who supplied the book), Moshe
Lubianiker (who copied and mailed me the English portions of this book),
Beverly Shulster (who translated two poems >from the book), and the
JewishGen Yizkor Book folks, a small part of Ner Tamid Yizkor LeBrody (An
Eternal Light: Brody, in Memoriam) is now online at JewishGen's Yizkor Book site:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/brody/brody.html

Mr. Lubianiker has just succeeded in getting permission for JewishGen to
publish a few selections >from this book by Joseph Parvari. These
selections, however, are in Hebrew and must be translated into English.
The work will require someone conversant with Hebrew and--even more
important--fluent in English. If there is any such person who also has a
personal interest in the city of Brody, Ukraine (formerly in Austrian
Galicia and, between the world wars, in Poland) and would be willing to
accomplish and donate to JewishGen a translation of any of the five Parvari
selections (1 to 5 pages in length amounting to about 10 pages in all), I
would like to hear >from you. Unpaid translators own the copyrights to
their translations. If it is necessary to raise funds for the translation
work via donations to JewishGen, then JewishGen (the employer of the
translator) will be the copyright holder of any translations done.

If you are interested in doing any of this translation work as an unpaid
volunteer, please e-mail me privately. If I don't find volunteers, I'll be
asking for donations to JewishGen in order to hire a translator. (NOTE:
the e-mail address given for me at the Web site is an old one, no longer
correct, so please use the address below.)

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld marjorierosenfeld@earthlink.net
Carlsbad, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brody, Ukraine Yizkor Book Translation #general

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Through the kind assistance of Yitzhak Zorne (who supplied the book), Moshe
Lubianiker (who copied and mailed me the English portions of this book),
Beverly Shulster (who translated two poems >from the book), and the
JewishGen Yizkor Book folks, a small part of Ner Tamid Yizkor LeBrody (An
Eternal Light: Brody, in Memoriam) is now online at JewishGen's Yizkor Book site:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/brody/brody.html

Mr. Lubianiker has just succeeded in getting permission for JewishGen to
publish a few selections >from this book by Joseph Parvari. These
selections, however, are in Hebrew and must be translated into English.
The work will require someone conversant with Hebrew and--even more
important--fluent in English. If there is any such person who also has a
personal interest in the city of Brody, Ukraine (formerly in Austrian
Galicia and, between the world wars, in Poland) and would be willing to
accomplish and donate to JewishGen a translation of any of the five Parvari
selections (1 to 5 pages in length amounting to about 10 pages in all), I
would like to hear >from you. Unpaid translators own the copyrights to
their translations. If it is necessary to raise funds for the translation
work via donations to JewishGen, then JewishGen (the employer of the
translator) will be the copyright holder of any translations done.

If you are interested in doing any of this translation work as an unpaid
volunteer, please e-mail me privately. If I don't find volunteers, I'll be
asking for donations to JewishGen in order to hire a translator. (NOTE:
the e-mail address given for me at the Web site is an old one, no longer
correct, so please use the address below.)

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld marjorierosenfeld@earthlink.net
Carlsbad, CA


Alexander NATHAN/Paris #general

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

I am seeking descendants of Alexander NATHAN [probably a patronymic] and
my relative Philippine Lessing [also Feile Braunschweig]. I have found
their marriage, 18 Aug 1807, in Jacobson's "juedische Trauungen in
Berlin". He gives a reference Rep. 104 IV C 3 for Alexander NATHAN, but I
have been unable to find an explanation of this in his list of
abbreviations. A footnote states that Alexander Nathan, >from Paris, was
permitted to remain in Berlin only 6 weeks after the marriage, unless he
was engaged in French services.

Thanks in advance!
Irene Newhouse


Mt Zion Cem. and Isreal EDER #general

gayle riley <key2pst@...>
 

Is there any Jewishgenner planning to go soon to Mt Zion or willing to
call and inquirer about the children of Isreal Eder, who died
9-22-41..The son is Samuel and he had at least one daughter, wifes name
was Ida..He lived in Brooklyn and was a Rabbi..Responsed privately..with
great thanks..I wish to contact his grandchildren or great
grandchildren..Gayle Riley of San Gabriel, Ca


Brownsville high schools #general

Howard Greer <hgreer@...>
 

Thomas Jefferson High was also in the area. Danny Kaye went there
hgreer@cpcug.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alexander NATHAN/Paris #general

Irene Newhouse <newhoir@...>
 

I am seeking descendants of Alexander NATHAN [probably a patronymic] and
my relative Philippine Lessing [also Feile Braunschweig]. I have found
their marriage, 18 Aug 1807, in Jacobson's "juedische Trauungen in
Berlin". He gives a reference Rep. 104 IV C 3 for Alexander NATHAN, but I
have been unable to find an explanation of this in his list of
abbreviations. A footnote states that Alexander Nathan, >from Paris, was
permitted to remain in Berlin only 6 weeks after the marriage, unless he
was engaged in French services.

Thanks in advance!
Irene Newhouse


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mt Zion Cem. and Isreal EDER #general

gayle riley <key2pst@...>
 

Is there any Jewishgenner planning to go soon to Mt Zion or willing to
call and inquirer about the children of Isreal Eder, who died
9-22-41..The son is Samuel and he had at least one daughter, wifes name
was Ida..He lived in Brooklyn and was a Rabbi..Responsed privately..with
great thanks..I wish to contact his grandchildren or great
grandchildren..Gayle Riley of San Gabriel, Ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brownsville high schools #general

Howard Greer <hgreer@...>
 

Thomas Jefferson High was also in the area. Danny Kaye went there
hgreer@cpcug.org


Irving Berlin's roots in Belorussia in new book #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

A new biography of Irving Berlin should be read by all Jewish genealogists
regardless of their interest in his music. The book opens with a detailed
account of how a Jewish family >from Tolochin, Belorussia was able to leave
for America and arrive in NY on September 13, 1893. A detailed itinerary
mapped out by the Paris based Alliance Israelite Universelle is included.
The "Temporary Rules" on Jews instituted by Czar Alexander III is also
discussed in the book.

The book is titled: "Irving Berlin: American Troubadour", by Edward
Jablonski, 1999

Steven Weiss
Chicago

MODERATOR NOTE: This is a one-time sales mention of a genealogically
relevant book.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Irving Berlin's roots in Belorussia in new book #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

A new biography of Irving Berlin should be read by all Jewish genealogists
regardless of their interest in his music. The book opens with a detailed
account of how a Jewish family >from Tolochin, Belorussia was able to leave
for America and arrive in NY on September 13, 1893. A detailed itinerary
mapped out by the Paris based Alliance Israelite Universelle is included.
The "Temporary Rules" on Jews instituted by Czar Alexander III is also
discussed in the book.

The book is titled: "Irving Berlin: American Troubadour", by Edward
Jablonski, 1999

Steven Weiss
Chicago

MODERATOR NOTE: This is a one-time sales mention of a genealogically
relevant book.


Re: latvia digest: November 17, 1999 #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Joan You have raised an important point because that is how it is perceived
at present. Do you realise the wealth of Latvian Archival information that
we are on the brink of receiving? We will have family lists,cemsus
lists,marriage,birth and death lists and by lists I mean names. We will
have to pay for these Archival lists. The money has to come from
subscriptions to Latvia SIG. It will benefit all of us.
I will double check about the newsgroup but I think that it is open to any
member of jewishgen to subscribe to any SIG newsgroup on Jewishgen that
they would like to. I will get back on this point.
Arlene Beare
London




At 11:18 PM 11/17/99 -0800, you wrote:
Membership - your response! My interpretation!

Membership gets you a current newsletter. All else is part of the SIG,
Jewishgen site. Is this
what you are saying?

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Subject: Latvia SIG membership
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:28:22 +0000
X-Message-Number: 1

This is a request for all members of the Latvia SIG to pay any membership
dues that are due or outstanding. We need as many paid up members as
possible if we are to be able to purchase the treasured lists of names from
the Archives.
The listing of the holdings will be on line very soon and I will post a
message when it is up.
We hope to have the first set of names at the end of the month and these
will then be put in a searchable database format. There is an immense
amount of data that will be forthcoming but we do need resources.
The newsletter which had been suggested as an online publication will
remain in hard copy for the time being and is a definite advantage of
membership. The next issue should be out in January.
Please recruit any friend or family to our ranks as we need strength of
membership.

Arlene Beare
London

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Subject: Newsgroup messages
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:35:39 +0000
X-Message-Number: 2

A number of members have expressed concern at the dearth of messages posted
on this newsgroup. I feel that it is a shame as there is a wealth of
information that we can and should share with one another. Perhaps we
should have a monthly topic about Latvia and our research? Any ideas would
be appreciated.

Arlene Beare
Moderator Newsgroup

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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: November 17, 1999 #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Joan You have raised an important point because that is how it is perceived
at present. Do you realise the wealth of Latvian Archival information that
we are on the brink of receiving? We will have family lists,cemsus
lists,marriage,birth and death lists and by lists I mean names. We will
have to pay for these Archival lists. The money has to come from
subscriptions to Latvia SIG. It will benefit all of us.
I will double check about the newsgroup but I think that it is open to any
member of jewishgen to subscribe to any SIG newsgroup on Jewishgen that
they would like to. I will get back on this point.
Arlene Beare
London




At 11:18 PM 11/17/99 -0800, you wrote:
Membership - your response! My interpretation!

Membership gets you a current newsletter. All else is part of the SIG,
Jewishgen site. Is this
what you are saying?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Latvia SIG membership
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:28:22 +0000
X-Message-Number: 1

This is a request for all members of the Latvia SIG to pay any membership
dues that are due or outstanding. We need as many paid up members as
possible if we are to be able to purchase the treasured lists of names from
the Archives.
The listing of the holdings will be on line very soon and I will post a
message when it is up.
We hope to have the first set of names at the end of the month and these
will then be put in a searchable database format. There is an immense
amount of data that will be forthcoming but we do need resources.
The newsletter which had been suggested as an online publication will
remain in hard copy for the time being and is a definite advantage of
membership. The next issue should be out in January.
Please recruit any friend or family to our ranks as we need strength of
membership.

Arlene Beare
London

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Subject: Newsgroup messages
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:35:39 +0000
X-Message-Number: 2

A number of members have expressed concern at the dearth of messages posted
on this newsgroup. I feel that it is a shame as there is a wealth of
information that we can and should share with one another. Perhaps we
should have a monthly topic about Latvia and our research? Any ideas would
be appreciated.

Arlene Beare
Moderator Newsgroup

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Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

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To unsubscribe send email to $subst('Email.Unsub')


Re: latvia digest: November 17, 1999 #latvia

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

Membership - your response! My interpretation!

Membership gets you a current newsletter. All else is part of the SIG, Jewishgen site. Is this
what you are saying?

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Subject: Latvia SIG membership
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:28:22 +0000
X-Message-Number: 1

This is a request for all members of the Latvia SIG to pay any membership
dues that are due or outstanding. We need as many paid up members as
possible if we are to be able to purchase the treasured lists of names from
the Archives.
The listing of the holdings will be on line very soon and I will post a
message when it is up.
We hope to have the first set of names at the end of the month and these
will then be put in a searchable database format. There is an immense
amount of data that will be forthcoming but we do need resources.
The newsletter which had been suggested as an online publication will
remain in hard copy for the time being and is a definite advantage of
membership. The next issue should be out in January.
Please recruit any friend or family to our ranks as we need strength of
membership.

Arlene Beare
London

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Subject: Newsgroup messages
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:35:39 +0000
X-Message-Number: 2

A number of members have expressed concern at the dearth of messages posted
on this newsgroup. I feel that it is a shame as there is a wealth of
information that we can and should share with one another. Perhaps we
should have a monthly topic about Latvia and our research? Any ideas would
be appreciated.

Arlene Beare
Moderator Newsgroup

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Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: November 17, 1999 #latvia

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

Membership - your response! My interpretation!

Membership gets you a current newsletter. All else is part of the SIG, Jewishgen site. Is this
what you are saying?

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Subject: Latvia SIG membership
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:28:22 +0000
X-Message-Number: 1

This is a request for all members of the Latvia SIG to pay any membership
dues that are due or outstanding. We need as many paid up members as
possible if we are to be able to purchase the treasured lists of names from
the Archives.
The listing of the holdings will be on line very soon and I will post a
message when it is up.
We hope to have the first set of names at the end of the month and these
will then be put in a searchable database format. There is an immense
amount of data that will be forthcoming but we do need resources.
The newsletter which had been suggested as an online publication will
remain in hard copy for the time being and is a definite advantage of
membership. The next issue should be out in January.
Please recruit any friend or family to our ranks as we need strength of
membership.

Arlene Beare
London

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Newsgroup messages
From: Arlene Beare <arl@dircon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:35:39 +0000
X-Message-Number: 2

A number of members have expressed concern at the dearth of messages posted
on this newsgroup. I feel that it is a shame as there is a wealth of
information that we can and should share with one another. Perhaps we
should have a monthly topic about Latvia and our research? Any ideas would
be appreciated.

Arlene Beare
Moderator Newsgroup

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