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Kitchener Camp Journals [Sandwich, Kent, U.K.] #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The People's Museum is a series on BBC Television which is constructing
a virtual museum: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/

At the end of every hour-long programme, the audience votes on which of
four very diverse objects should be placed in the museum.

Yesterday, to my surprise, one of the objects was the humble-looking
"Kitchener Camp Review" and today I heard that it had won [I had voted
for it and asked other UK siggers to join me!]. The Journals now have a
place in the virtual museum.

I would like to think that our SIG played a part in this success.

see http://tinyurl.com/hp785 to read about Kitchener's Camp which housed
many refugees >from the geographic area covered by our SIG.

We cannot see much of their contents on the internet so hopefully one
day they will be scanned. If not, we will have to travel to the Guildhall
Museum, Sandwich to look at them:

http://www.sandwichtowncouncil.co.uk/museum.htm

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Kitchener Camp Journals [Sandwich, Kent, U.K.] #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The People's Museum is a series on BBC Television which is constructing
a virtual museum: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/

At the end of every hour-long programme, the audience votes on which of
four very diverse objects should be placed in the museum.

Yesterday, to my surprise, one of the objects was the humble-looking
"Kitchener Camp Review" and today I heard that it had won [I had voted
for it and asked other UK siggers to join me!]. The Journals now have a
place in the virtual museum.

I would like to think that our SIG played a part in this success.

see http://tinyurl.com/hp785 to read about Kitchener's Camp which housed
many refugees >from the geographic area covered by our SIG.

We cannot see much of their contents on the internet so hopefully one
day they will be scanned. If not, we will have to travel to the Guildhall
Museum, Sandwich to look at them:

http://www.sandwichtowncouncil.co.uk/museum.htm

Celia Male [U.K.]


How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to marry in the 1860s. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

What happened when a Jewish soldier >from far-flung parts of the Habsburg
Empire [Bohemia, Moravia, Hungary, Galicia etc] stationed in Vienna in the
1860s, wished to marry? This question might be impossible to answer today
unless we unearth some "Rules and Regulations" in a military handbook about
just such a situation.

By a stroke of luck, we have circumvented this first research stage because
of a document I have found on the internet. This "permission to marry"
document is important so I hope many of you will have a look at it at
http://tinyurl.com/gbkfw
I presume the same bureaucratic formalities applied to a soldier stationed
anywhere away >from his home town or village.

It is a document dated 23 April 1867 granting permission to marry to
Wolf Isaak STEIN >from Stanislau, Galicia. Wolf was probably born about
1840-1845. The owner of the document appeared unable to read the word
*Stanislau* which is missing >from the description. Wolf is obviously still
"zustandig" [resident] in Stanislau.

Wolf was stationed in Vienna and was a member of the K. und K. Wiener
Invaliden Commando and was an Invaliden Zugsfuhrer - in the Austrian Army
a "Zugsfuhrer" [with umlaut on the U] was a platoon leader. What exactly
was the Wiener K. und K. Invaliden Commando? I believe it meant that the
fathers of the soldiers in this regiment had been wounded in action - if
you can read German, search for *Invaliden* here:

http://tinyurl.com/fbq82

The military authorities had received the permission to marry >from the
Magistrat in Stanislau and the permit is numbered 1301 and dated 13th of ???
[possibly April?].

They now give the go-ahead and there are two signatories to the permit.
The bride is named as Magdalena DEUTSCH [described as single and an adult].
The only proviso is that the usual formalities [three prounouncements of
marriage and no objections] are complied with. Also, Magdalena must renounce
all rights to military benefits according to Article Two ... {nach dem
zweiten Militar Artikel]. The marriage can then proceed according to
Jewish rites.

This raises other questions:
1. Was this renunciation demanded >from all brides or only Jewish brides?
What exactly were the benefits she renounced - pensions etc?
2. Did Wolf marry in a synagogue in Vienna? If so, his marriage should be
registered at the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde [IKG] and we should be able
to find it.
3. Alternatively Wolf married Magdalena on home-leave.
4. Perhaps there were special facilities for Jewish members of the K. und K.
forces to marry with rabbis seconded to the forces?
5. As Wolf Isaak served in a K. und K. Wiener Invaliden Regiment, one might
assume that his family resided in Vienna.

These are all unanswered questions, but if we assiduously chip away at
these problems we will hopefully get a clearer idea of the bureacratic
complexities of such a marriage.

The military archives in Vienna now charge quite hefty fees. This is of
course a major disincentive for anyone wishing to carry out purely academic,
exploratory research. I am not sure if queries related to the above research
would be exempted >from the fees mentioned above. For example, the Military
Archives in Vienna should be able to answer Question 1 above - that would
be a useful start. What exactly is Article Two?

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to marry in the 1860s. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

What happened when a Jewish soldier >from far-flung parts of the Habsburg
Empire [Bohemia, Moravia, Hungary, Galicia etc] stationed in Vienna in the
1860s, wished to marry? This question might be impossible to answer today
unless we unearth some "Rules and Regulations" in a military handbook about
just such a situation.

By a stroke of luck, we have circumvented this first research stage because
of a document I have found on the internet. This "permission to marry"
document is important so I hope many of you will have a look at it at
http://tinyurl.com/gbkfw
I presume the same bureaucratic formalities applied to a soldier stationed
anywhere away >from his home town or village.

It is a document dated 23 April 1867 granting permission to marry to
Wolf Isaak STEIN >from Stanislau, Galicia. Wolf was probably born about
1840-1845. The owner of the document appeared unable to read the word
*Stanislau* which is missing >from the description. Wolf is obviously still
"zustandig" [resident] in Stanislau.

Wolf was stationed in Vienna and was a member of the K. und K. Wiener
Invaliden Commando and was an Invaliden Zugsfuhrer - in the Austrian Army
a "Zugsfuhrer" [with umlaut on the U] was a platoon leader. What exactly
was the Wiener K. und K. Invaliden Commando? I believe it meant that the
fathers of the soldiers in this regiment had been wounded in action - if
you can read German, search for *Invaliden* here:

http://tinyurl.com/fbq82

The military authorities had received the permission to marry >from the
Magistrat in Stanislau and the permit is numbered 1301 and dated 13th of ???
[possibly April?].

They now give the go-ahead and there are two signatories to the permit.
The bride is named as Magdalena DEUTSCH [described as single and an adult].
The only proviso is that the usual formalities [three prounouncements of
marriage and no objections] are complied with. Also, Magdalena must renounce
all rights to military benefits according to Article Two ... {nach dem
zweiten Militar Artikel]. The marriage can then proceed according to
Jewish rites.

This raises other questions:
1. Was this renunciation demanded >from all brides or only Jewish brides?
What exactly were the benefits she renounced - pensions etc?
2. Did Wolf marry in a synagogue in Vienna? If so, his marriage should be
registered at the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde [IKG] and we should be able
to find it.
3. Alternatively Wolf married Magdalena on home-leave.
4. Perhaps there were special facilities for Jewish members of the K. und K.
forces to marry with rabbis seconded to the forces?
5. As Wolf Isaak served in a K. und K. Wiener Invaliden Regiment, one might
assume that his family resided in Vienna.

These are all unanswered questions, but if we assiduously chip away at
these problems we will hopefully get a clearer idea of the bureacratic
complexities of such a marriage.

The military archives in Vienna now charge quite hefty fees. This is of
course a major disincentive for anyone wishing to carry out purely academic,
exploratory research. I am not sure if queries related to the above research
would be exempted >from the fees mentioned above. For example, the Military
Archives in Vienna should be able to answer Question 1 above - that would
be a useful start. What exactly is Article Two?

Celia Male [U.K.]


Seeking descendants of Prague EPSTEIN Family for Y-DNA Study #austria-czech

Itzhak Epstein
 

Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree DNA JewishGen surname
project. Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being
used as a promising tool for breaking through our genealogical
brick walls. It might help you to greatly expand your family tree,
and may also help our surname project.

To the best of our knowledge, the EPPSTEINs emerged in Frankfurt am Main
in the early 15th century. By the mid 17th century we were present in
Poland. It is still unclear whether the Polish/Russian EPSTEINs are=
descended
from the Frankfurt EPPSTEINs. The most prominent 16th century EPSTEINs
were in Prague, and it is likely that they are the bridge between the
Frankfurt EPPSTEINs and the Polish EPSTEINs. To find out, we need to test
direct male decendents of the historic Prague EPSTEINs.

We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the
Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line.
Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally
unrelated to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered
patrilineal relationships to men whose surnames are not EPSTEIN. Most
of us trace our ancestry to eastern Europe, and only two to Germany.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster,
on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated
members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad
a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a
cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN
through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can
represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share
this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project.

To join, go to
http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=3DR56553&special=3Dtrue
or http://tinyurl.com/pg2kv

The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test will indicate to whom
you are probably related. The more advanced tests could help to identify
closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test
and add to it at a later date, using the same sample.

If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's
volunteer administrator at epsteindna_admin@...

Itzhak Epstein
New York, NY
iegen@...


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Seeking descendants of Prague EPSTEIN Family for Y-DNA Study #austria-czech

Itzhak Epstein
 

Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree DNA JewishGen surname
project. Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being
used as a promising tool for breaking through our genealogical
brick walls. It might help you to greatly expand your family tree,
and may also help our surname project.

To the best of our knowledge, the EPPSTEINs emerged in Frankfurt am Main
in the early 15th century. By the mid 17th century we were present in
Poland. It is still unclear whether the Polish/Russian EPSTEINs are=
descended
from the Frankfurt EPPSTEINs. The most prominent 16th century EPSTEINs
were in Prague, and it is likely that they are the bridge between the
Frankfurt EPPSTEINs and the Polish EPSTEINs. To find out, we need to test
direct male decendents of the historic Prague EPSTEINs.

We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the
Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line.
Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally
unrelated to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered
patrilineal relationships to men whose surnames are not EPSTEIN. Most
of us trace our ancestry to eastern Europe, and only two to Germany.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster,
on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated
members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad
a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a
cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN
through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can
represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share
this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project.

To join, go to
http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=3DR56553&special=3Dtrue
or http://tinyurl.com/pg2kv

The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test will indicate to whom
you are probably related. The more advanced tests could help to identify
closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test
and add to it at a later date, using the same sample.

If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's
volunteer administrator at epsteindna_admin@...

Itzhak Epstein
New York, NY
iegen@...


Where is Varsovia, Polynesian? #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

I just found a ship manifest for a relative that says he was born in
Varsovia, Polynesian. Where in the world is that?? His boat sailed >from
Marseille, France to the US. He arrived on the Ship Roma on July 11, 1921 to
the Port of Providence, Rhode Island..
Thanks for any information! Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where is Varsovia, Polynesian? #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

I just found a ship manifest for a relative that says he was born in
Varsovia, Polynesian. Where in the world is that?? His boat sailed >from
Marseille, France to the US. He arrived on the Ship Roma on July 11, 1921 to
the Port of Providence, Rhode Island..
Thanks for any information! Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


Re: 1905 NY State lookup #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Mark, there's no name index to the 1905 New York state census for the Bronx,
but the assembly and election districts of addresses can be determined
through one of Steve Morse's One-Steps. At http://stevemorse.org/ , click
"NY Census AD/ED Finder: Obtaining AD/ED for the 1905/15/25 NY State Census
in One Step."

Steve provides a street index for the Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens,
and Staten Island state censuses for 1905, 1915, and 1925, with the exception
of Queens 1905 and Staten Island 1905.

Also, the Genealogy Division of the New York Public Library has "New York
County, 1905-1925 Street Index" on microfilm. The index includes the Bronx.
The microfilm of the census is also there.

The census is also available through LDS Family History Centers (according
to the LDS website, there are two in Mesa) and at the County Clerk's Office
- State Supreme Court, New York County, Division of Old Records in Manhattan.
Information about the Genealogy Division and the Division of Old Records is at
http://www.jgsny2006.org/research.cfm .

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY


Subject: 1905 NY State lookup
From: Mark Shofron <shofron@...>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 19:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 11

Genners:

Would someone with access please lookup in the 1905
New York State census, a listing for Hugo Nachman,
widowed with 3 sons, Harry, Jacob and Isador (or
Bernard). They are probably in the Bronx, perhaps
staying with in-laws, Carl and Esther Rothschild and
family.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1905 NY State lookup #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Mark, there's no name index to the 1905 New York state census for the Bronx,
but the assembly and election districts of addresses can be determined
through one of Steve Morse's One-Steps. At http://stevemorse.org/ , click
"NY Census AD/ED Finder: Obtaining AD/ED for the 1905/15/25 NY State Census
in One Step."

Steve provides a street index for the Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens,
and Staten Island state censuses for 1905, 1915, and 1925, with the exception
of Queens 1905 and Staten Island 1905.

Also, the Genealogy Division of the New York Public Library has "New York
County, 1905-1925 Street Index" on microfilm. The index includes the Bronx.
The microfilm of the census is also there.

The census is also available through LDS Family History Centers (according
to the LDS website, there are two in Mesa) and at the County Clerk's Office
- State Supreme Court, New York County, Division of Old Records in Manhattan.
Information about the Genealogy Division and the Division of Old Records is at
http://www.jgsny2006.org/research.cfm .

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY


Subject: 1905 NY State lookup
From: Mark Shofron <shofron@...>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 19:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 11

Genners:

Would someone with access please lookup in the 1905
New York State census, a listing for Hugo Nachman,
widowed with 3 sons, Harry, Jacob and Isador (or
Bernard). They are probably in the Bronx, perhaps
staying with in-laws, Carl and Esther Rothschild and
family.


people from Romania at Castle Gardens #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

Has anyone found any people >from Romania on the Castle Gardens database.
I know my Romania Branch came in to NY in 1886. I think I found them but
it says they were >from Russia. They came >from Iasi, Romania.
Unfortunately their name was "GOLD".
Researching for information on the family of Louis/Lazar/Eliezer Littman
Gold son of Shraga Fievel Gold born Iasi 1850's. Brother of Jacob of
Israel and Isaac >from Africa.
Thank you Respond privately, Gayle >from San Gabriel, near LA, Ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen people from Romania at Castle Gardens #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

Has anyone found any people >from Romania on the Castle Gardens database.
I know my Romania Branch came in to NY in 1886. I think I found them but
it says they were >from Russia. They came >from Iasi, Romania.
Unfortunately their name was "GOLD".
Researching for information on the family of Louis/Lazar/Eliezer Littman
Gold son of Shraga Fievel Gold born Iasi 1850's. Brother of Jacob of
Israel and Isaac >from Africa.
Thank you Respond privately, Gayle >from San Gabriel, near LA, Ca


Re: Czech search engine: Could ROZENBERK be a "sound-alike?" #austria-czech

Buzaitis and Petersen <bubbeleh@...>
 

ROZMBERK is the Czech spelling for Rosenberg. They were quite a powerful
family in the 14th and 15th centuries in both Western and Southern Bohemia.
However, I don't know how generally prevalent the name was so I'm not sure
whether is was also prevalent among the not so powerful. If you let me know
any villages you are aware of privately to my e-mail above, I'd be happy to
point you toward any sources of which I am aware.

Dena (Simacek-Svajgr) Petersen

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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Czech search engine: Could ROZENBERK be a "sound-alike?" #austria-czech

Buzaitis and Petersen <bubbeleh@...>
 

ROZMBERK is the Czech spelling for Rosenberg. They were quite a powerful
family in the 14th and 15th centuries in both Western and Southern Bohemia.
However, I don't know how generally prevalent the name was so I'm not sure
whether is was also prevalent among the not so powerful. If you let me know
any villages you are aware of privately to my e-mail above, I'd be happy to
point you toward any sources of which I am aware.

Dena (Simacek-Svajgr) Petersen

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Re: NYC marriage certificates #germany

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Brody" <tbrody10@...>

The marriage records for NY City are kept at two
separate agencies. Post-1950 records are kept at the
City Clerk's office.
The City Clerk's office is located at the Municipal Building, 1 Centre
Street, 2nd Floor South, New York, NY 10007, phone (212) 669-2400. Their
website http://nycmarriagebureau.com/about/requestbymail.html explains that
marriage certificates older than 50 years old can be requested by anyone for
a $15 fee (which includes a 1 year search) payable by money order or
certified cheque. I assume that this means there is no ablility for us to
search on our own.

Pre-1950 records are kept at the
Municipal Archives.
According to their website
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/home.shtml marriage
records at the Municipal Archives are only available to 1930. In person
searches are possible. The fee for a reader is $5 for the day with a $10
fee if you want a certificate printed. You can use your computer on site..
I asked. They do mention that not all marriages were registered.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia, NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia, NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Galicia;
MONDSCHEIN - Brod, Galicia;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC marriage certificates #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Brody" <tbrody10@...>

The marriage records for NY City are kept at two
separate agencies. Post-1950 records are kept at the
City Clerk's office.
The City Clerk's office is located at the Municipal Building, 1 Centre
Street, 2nd Floor South, New York, NY 10007, phone (212) 669-2400. Their
website http://nycmarriagebureau.com/about/requestbymail.html explains that
marriage certificates older than 50 years old can be requested by anyone for
a $15 fee (which includes a 1 year search) payable by money order or
certified cheque. I assume that this means there is no ablility for us to
search on our own.

Pre-1950 records are kept at the
Municipal Archives.
According to their website
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/home.shtml marriage
records at the Municipal Archives are only available to 1930. In person
searches are possible. The fee for a reader is $5 for the day with a $10
fee if you want a certificate printed. You can use your computer on site..
I asked. They do mention that not all marriages were registered.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia, NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia, NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Galicia;
MONDSCHEIN - Brod, Galicia;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Re: Looking for ancestors/descendents/relatives of the Chicago STOCK family, late 1800s-early 1900s #general

hachaver@...
 

Lucinda,
My best advice is for you to examine Chicago city directories from
that time period, looking for individuals with the last name stock and
occupation grocery or meat market on or near Diversey Street. From
there, once you know the first name(s) of the individual(s) you are
looking for, you can try to find them in the census.
I see that you are >from Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Public
Library's History and Genealogy Department has a large collection of
city directories >from American cities, including Chicago:
http://www.lapl.org/resources/indexes/directories.html

Best of luck,
Justin Consor
Jerusalem

Dr.P wrote:

Hello, cousins!
I'm looking for ancestors/descendents/relatives of the
Chicago STOCK family, late 1800s-early 1900s. They
owned a large grocery and meat market on Diversey
Street and may have lived there as well. Please reply
privately... and Thanks in anticipation of your help!
Lucinda Patten
beachwatergirl@...
Los Angeles, CA
---
Sender: "Dr.P" <beachwatergirl@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for ancestors/descendents/relatives of the Chicago STOCK family, late 1800s-early 1900s #general

hachaver@...
 

Lucinda,
My best advice is for you to examine Chicago city directories from
that time period, looking for individuals with the last name stock and
occupation grocery or meat market on or near Diversey Street. From
there, once you know the first name(s) of the individual(s) you are
looking for, you can try to find them in the census.
I see that you are >from Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Public
Library's History and Genealogy Department has a large collection of
city directories >from American cities, including Chicago:
http://www.lapl.org/resources/indexes/directories.html

Best of luck,
Justin Consor
Jerusalem

Dr.P wrote:

Hello, cousins!
I'm looking for ancestors/descendents/relatives of the
Chicago STOCK family, late 1800s-early 1900s. They
owned a large grocery and meat market on Diversey
Street and may have lived there as well. Please reply
privately... and Thanks in anticipation of your help!
Lucinda Patten
beachwatergirl@...
Los Angeles, CA
---
Sender: "Dr.P" <beachwatergirl@...>


help identifying a town on a manifest on Ellis Island site #general

No Name <janglo_cruise@...>
 

Hello,

I need help trying to identify at town on a ship
manifest I’ve finally managed to locate on the EIDB.
The entire manifest can be viewed at
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=100552110139

Dwore Grunberg is listed on line number 8 on the
manifest (there is also a possible cousin on line 11
coming >from the same town, and going to the same
uncle, Max Kaiserman in Pittsburgh, PA).

The manifest does list Kieff, Russia as the area, but
it’s the town in that vicinity that I’m interested in.
EIDB lists the town as Berlilowka. I think it’s more
likely the town of Pechaluvka or Karpilovka or
something of that nature. I’ve never heard of these
places nor have I had any success locating other
genners searching for this town.

Please respond privately to mglasser AT
netvision.net.il , unless there is something for
everyone to learn from.

Thanks,

Malkiel GLASSER
Jerusalem Israel

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen help identifying a town on a manifest on Ellis Island site #general

No Name <janglo_cruise@...>
 

Hello,

I need help trying to identify at town on a ship
manifest I’ve finally managed to locate on the EIDB.
The entire manifest can be viewed at
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=100552110139

Dwore Grunberg is listed on line number 8 on the
manifest (there is also a possible cousin on line 11
coming >from the same town, and going to the same
uncle, Max Kaiserman in Pittsburgh, PA).

The manifest does list Kieff, Russia as the area, but
it’s the town in that vicinity that I’m interested in.
EIDB lists the town as Berlilowka. I think it’s more
likely the town of Pechaluvka or Karpilovka or
something of that nature. I’ve never heard of these
places nor have I had any success locating other
genners searching for this town.

Please respond privately to mglasser AT
netvision.net.il , unless there is something for
everyone to learn from.

Thanks,

Malkiel GLASSER
Jerusalem Israel

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