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19th century Posen Province names #general

e l
 

Have you checked Luft, Edward, The Naturalized Jews of the Grand Duchy of
Posen in 1834 and 1835? I found several Posen Province names that you
listed there, including one >from Schrimm. It is available at
<http://www.avotaynu.com/books/posen.htm>.

Edward Luft

Subject: GLASS/GLAS and connections Pr. Poland & Berlin 19thC.
From: "bettina glass" <bettinaglass@...>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:18:41 +1000 X-Message-Number: 4

Still searching: (GLASS/GLAS, Schrimm & Berlin)-(ISAACS, TAPUSCH/TAPULSKI,
Marijampol (Lithuania/Ukraine)-( SHAFFRAN, Poland & England)- (MAIJER/MEYER,
SCHADE, GUTTMANN, Berlin)-(BRAUNSPAHN, SAMTER, Pr.Poland)-(LOHDE, Berlin &
Pr. Stargardt)-(DAVIDSOHN, JOEL, Berlin)-(FARIN, NERRIED, GLASER,
PANKE/BANKE, FABISCH/FEIBUSCH, SCHREIBER, ALMUS, Schrimm).
Some connections
are firm, others are tenuous. If any of these family names link to your
research in any way, please contact privately. Thank you, Bettina Glass, far
north Queensland, Australia.
bettinaglass@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 19th century Posen Province names #general

e l
 

Have you checked Luft, Edward, The Naturalized Jews of the Grand Duchy of
Posen in 1834 and 1835? I found several Posen Province names that you
listed there, including one >from Schrimm. It is available at
<http://www.avotaynu.com/books/posen.htm>.

Edward Luft

Subject: GLASS/GLAS and connections Pr. Poland & Berlin 19thC.
From: "bettina glass" <bettinaglass@...>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:18:41 +1000 X-Message-Number: 4

Still searching: (GLASS/GLAS, Schrimm & Berlin)-(ISAACS, TAPUSCH/TAPULSKI,
Marijampol (Lithuania/Ukraine)-( SHAFFRAN, Poland & England)- (MAIJER/MEYER,
SCHADE, GUTTMANN, Berlin)-(BRAUNSPAHN, SAMTER, Pr.Poland)-(LOHDE, Berlin &
Pr. Stargardt)-(DAVIDSOHN, JOEL, Berlin)-(FARIN, NERRIED, GLASER,
PANKE/BANKE, FABISCH/FEIBUSCH, SCHREIBER, ALMUS, Schrimm).
Some connections
are firm, others are tenuous. If any of these family names link to your
research in any way, please contact privately. Thank you, Bettina Glass, far
north Queensland, Australia.
bettinaglass@...


Marijampol ?? #general

bettina glass <bettinaglass@...>
 

Hello Group,

You have been very good at helping to solve my various puzzles. Here is
another one, please. Is anyone familiar with the town of Marijampol in
"Russia" ? I first assumed it was Marijampol in Lithuania and tried the
appropriate LDS microfilm (birth in 1842/44). Unfortunately I find Polish
very difficult to read in the handwritten records and just looked for names,
planning to concentrate on full translations after photocopies were
obtained. I couldn't find anything that looked remotely like *Rachel Isaacs*
for the child, or *Isaac/Isaacs* for the father. I have twice ploughed
through the entire film without success. Since then, I have located another
Marijampol, in Ukraine. Assuming this one would also have been quoted as
"Russia" on an Australian marriage application form in 1881, I have ordered
the appropriate microfilm, same birth date, same names, Mariampol in
Galicia. If anyone else out there has searched either of these films, do you
remember seeing the name *Isaacs*? I can't believe that there were no Isaacs
at all in the Lithuanian town. Maybe they are all in the Ukrainian town and
I will find plenty to choose >from or they are in Lithuania after all and I
just could not identify the names. Any suggestions? Rachel's maiden name has
also been quoted as *Tapulski, or Tapusch*. That is a long way >from
*Isaacs*. Does it prompt anything in anyone's memorybank?

Thank you,
Bettina Glass, far north Queensland, Australia.
bettinaglass@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marijampol ?? #general

bettina glass <bettinaglass@...>
 

Hello Group,

You have been very good at helping to solve my various puzzles. Here is
another one, please. Is anyone familiar with the town of Marijampol in
"Russia" ? I first assumed it was Marijampol in Lithuania and tried the
appropriate LDS microfilm (birth in 1842/44). Unfortunately I find Polish
very difficult to read in the handwritten records and just looked for names,
planning to concentrate on full translations after photocopies were
obtained. I couldn't find anything that looked remotely like *Rachel Isaacs*
for the child, or *Isaac/Isaacs* for the father. I have twice ploughed
through the entire film without success. Since then, I have located another
Marijampol, in Ukraine. Assuming this one would also have been quoted as
"Russia" on an Australian marriage application form in 1881, I have ordered
the appropriate microfilm, same birth date, same names, Mariampol in
Galicia. If anyone else out there has searched either of these films, do you
remember seeing the name *Isaacs*? I can't believe that there were no Isaacs
at all in the Lithuanian town. Maybe they are all in the Ukrainian town and
I will find plenty to choose >from or they are in Lithuania after all and I
just could not identify the names. Any suggestions? Rachel's maiden name has
also been quoted as *Tapulski, or Tapusch*. That is a long way >from
*Isaacs*. Does it prompt anything in anyone's memorybank?

Thank you,
Bettina Glass, far north Queensland, Australia.
bettinaglass@...


Re: Seeking DARTER Family: European origins #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Christopher Moncrieff writes:
"Is anyone able to help
me trace the Central European origins of the
DARTER family? My paternal grandmother was a Darter.
The family lived in Hertfordshire, England (UK), and
in North London. They were assimilated, secular Jews,
although >from their appearance and habits they were
clearly originally Central Europeans .........

"The name Darter appears to be fairly rare. It is not
English, and there are few if any Darters now in
Britain. The family most likely came to the UK during
the 19th century, in one of the immigrations.

"Initial research on Avotaynu and JewishGen confirms my
belief that they were probably Polish. There also seem
to be links to Galicia."

I was suprised to read Christopher's comments that
DARTER was a fairly rare name and *not English*. There
are certainly DARTER in the England and Wales censuses
every year >from 1841-1901 and in total there are well
over 1,000.

I have rapidly checked through the censuses and some
DARTER are mistranscriptions for PORTER and CARTER.
I can categorically say, however, that nearly 99.9
percent of the entries are of English, Irish and
Welsh ancestry. Had there been many DARTER immigrants
from Central Europe we might have seen them in the
1871 censuses onwards.

In fact, the only sign of foreign-born DARTER I found
was Maria born on the Ionian Island of Lante in 1901;
one or two >from the Cape and significantly this family
in the 1841 census who may well be Jewish - but the
fact the son has the same name as the father makes me
wonder. The first names suggest to me that the may be
of French origin.

Louis DARTER appears to be in the glass business, but
it is hard to decipher. All lived in Prescot,
Lancashire.

Parents:
Louis Darter abt 1799 Foreign Parts
Josephine Darter abt 1802 Foreign Parts

Children:
Mane Darter abt 1827 Foreign Parts
Polina Darter abt 1829 Foreign Parts
Louis Darter abt 1833 - born in UK
Honorine Darter abt 1836 - born in UK
Augusta Darter abt 1839 - born in UK

So this DARTER family came to England between 1830 and
1833 and then mysteriously disappears >from all further
censuses.

I also checked the huge Yad vashem database and there
is ony one DARTER victim, we remember here today:

Source: Yad Vashem Archive Documentation on Romania
(Various archival sources).

Last Name: DARTER
First Name: Herman
Name of Camp: Radauti, Detention Site
Name of Camp: Transnistria, Camp
Material type: list of ghetto/camp inmates from
Romania
Language: Romanian
Source Page number: JM-11.296 # 2

If DARTER is/was a Jewish family name >from Galicia
they certainly were rare - I can find none in the
Jri-pl database nor in Vienna which had many Galician
immigrants.

Celia Male [U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Seeking DARTER Family: European origins #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Christopher Moncrieff writes:
"Is anyone able to help
me trace the Central European origins of the
DARTER family? My paternal grandmother was a Darter.
The family lived in Hertfordshire, England (UK), and
in North London. They were assimilated, secular Jews,
although >from their appearance and habits they were
clearly originally Central Europeans .........

"The name Darter appears to be fairly rare. It is not
English, and there are few if any Darters now in
Britain. The family most likely came to the UK during
the 19th century, in one of the immigrations.

"Initial research on Avotaynu and JewishGen confirms my
belief that they were probably Polish. There also seem
to be links to Galicia."

I was suprised to read Christopher's comments that
DARTER was a fairly rare name and *not English*. There
are certainly DARTER in the England and Wales censuses
every year >from 1841-1901 and in total there are well
over 1,000.

I have rapidly checked through the censuses and some
DARTER are mistranscriptions for PORTER and CARTER.
I can categorically say, however, that nearly 99.9
percent of the entries are of English, Irish and
Welsh ancestry. Had there been many DARTER immigrants
from Central Europe we might have seen them in the
1871 censuses onwards.

In fact, the only sign of foreign-born DARTER I found
was Maria born on the Ionian Island of Lante in 1901;
one or two >from the Cape and significantly this family
in the 1841 census who may well be Jewish - but the
fact the son has the same name as the father makes me
wonder. The first names suggest to me that the may be
of French origin.

Louis DARTER appears to be in the glass business, but
it is hard to decipher. All lived in Prescot,
Lancashire.

Parents:
Louis Darter abt 1799 Foreign Parts
Josephine Darter abt 1802 Foreign Parts

Children:
Mane Darter abt 1827 Foreign Parts
Polina Darter abt 1829 Foreign Parts
Louis Darter abt 1833 - born in UK
Honorine Darter abt 1836 - born in UK
Augusta Darter abt 1839 - born in UK

So this DARTER family came to England between 1830 and
1833 and then mysteriously disappears >from all further
censuses.

I also checked the huge Yad vashem database and there
is ony one DARTER victim, we remember here today:

Source: Yad Vashem Archive Documentation on Romania
(Various archival sources).

Last Name: DARTER
First Name: Herman
Name of Camp: Radauti, Detention Site
Name of Camp: Transnistria, Camp
Material type: list of ghetto/camp inmates from
Romania
Language: Romanian
Source Page number: JM-11.296 # 2

If DARTER is/was a Jewish family name >from Galicia
they certainly were rare - I can find none in the
Jri-pl database nor in Vienna which had many Galician
immigrants.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon: June 21st Monthly Meeting #general

Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon (JGSO) invites you, your
family, and friends to our June monthly meeting.

Making use of LDS Resources
Presented by Shirley Bailey

Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Time: 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm
Place: LDS Lakeridge Family History Center
1271 Overlook Drive, Lake Oswego, Oregon
(The FHC is across the street >from Lakeridge High School.
It is in the rear of the LDS Church building. To get there,
take I-5 to I-205. >from I 205 take the first exit
Stafford Rd, left onto Stafford. Continue north about 2 miles.
Turn left at the first signal past the roundabout, onto
Overlook. The Church building is about 2 blocks on the left.)

Shirley Bailey is the Director of the Lakeridge Family History Center.
She will describe the many cd-rom, print, microfilm, and online
resources available at the Mormon Family History Centers, and she will
tell us how these resources can be used to further your family history
research. This event is *free* to all.

To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail
message to rondoctor@.... Once you are on the list, you will
receive periodic messages concerning Jewish genealogy. Your name and
e-mail address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon. For
more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web site
at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs/ ,
or call Joan Teller at 503-694-5646.

The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon: June 21st Monthly Meeting #general

Ronald D. Doctor <rondoctor@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Oregon (JGSO) invites you, your
family, and friends to our June monthly meeting.

Making use of LDS Resources
Presented by Shirley Bailey

Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Time: 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm
Place: LDS Lakeridge Family History Center
1271 Overlook Drive, Lake Oswego, Oregon
(The FHC is across the street >from Lakeridge High School.
It is in the rear of the LDS Church building. To get there,
take I-5 to I-205. >from I 205 take the first exit
Stafford Rd, left onto Stafford. Continue north about 2 miles.
Turn left at the first signal past the roundabout, onto
Overlook. The Church building is about 2 blocks on the left.)

Shirley Bailey is the Director of the Lakeridge Family History Center.
She will describe the many cd-rom, print, microfilm, and online
resources available at the Mormon Family History Centers, and she will
tell us how these resources can be used to further your family history
research. This event is *free* to all.

To be placed on JGS of Oregon's e-mail distribution list, send an e-mail
message to rondoctor@.... Once you are on the list, you will
receive periodic messages concerning Jewish genealogy. Your name and
e-mail address will not be distributed outside of JGS of Oregon. For
more information about JGSO and its activities, visit the JGSO web site
at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~orjgs/ ,
or call Joan Teller at 503-694-5646.

The JGSO is affiliated with the International Association of Jewish
Genealogical Societies.


How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to marry in the 1860s. #austria-czech

Pam <pam@...>
 

This is very interesting - and thank you for sharing the info - my own brick
wall has a few chinks in it now that we have hired a prof genealogist in CZ
who lives not too far away >from our MICHALEK ancestors - Belotin, Polom, and
Jesenik n. O. Moravia. We have been able to go back to an Anton MICHALEK m.
to Magdalena FIEBER - both of Belotin, then child Anton m. to Theresia RABEL
with child Anton (2-17-1835) m. to Magdalena SCHRAMM (7-27-1837 of Jesenik
n. O who produced my ggrandfather Josef. We have had so many false leads on
this Josef - but we have finally gotten documentation that he was born
9-15-1864 in Jesenik - however his parents were not married until 1868 - 4
years later - and the ceremony was in Vienna, Austria. We have not been able
to determine why the delay in marriage since both parties lived in the same
hometown and even shared the same house! So maybe, with your info, Anton
Michalek (the 3rd) was in the service and was not allowed to left before
they could get married - and she had to travel to Vienna in order to do so?
At least it might be another clue - as we 'think' and have been told that
MICHALEK could very well be Jewish origin.

If anyone has any insight into where I couldlook in Vienna - or any other
info - it would be appreciated.

thanks!

~Pam Frierdich-Staley~
Warrenton, MO
http://www.michael-steppig-family-tree.com
http://www.frierdich-staley-familytree.com
Looking for surnames of BANGERT, CINNAUGHT/CANNAUGHT, DIESEL, DILLON,
FIEBER, FIELDS, FRIERDICH/FRIEDRICH, GOLD, HATTER/HOERTER, KIEFER, KRAFT,
MEES/MAES, MENTEL, MICHALEK (MICHAEL/EAL), MITCHELL, PROBST, RABEL, RAPP,
REIS, SCHALLOM, SCHELLHORN, SCHRAMM, SCHUBERT, STALEY, STEPPIG, THOELE,
WEBER

Subject: How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to
marry in the 1860s.
From: Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:51:44 -0700 (PDT)

What happened when a Jewish soldier >from far-flung parts of the Habsburg
Empire [Bohemia, Moravia, Hungary, Galicia etc] stationed in Vienna in the
1860s, wished to marry? This question might be impossible to answer today
unless we unearth some "Rules and Regulations" in a military handbook about
just such a situation.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to marry in the 1860s. #austria-czech

Pam <pam@...>
 

This is very interesting - and thank you for sharing the info - my own brick
wall has a few chinks in it now that we have hired a prof genealogist in CZ
who lives not too far away >from our MICHALEK ancestors - Belotin, Polom, and
Jesenik n. O. Moravia. We have been able to go back to an Anton MICHALEK m.
to Magdalena FIEBER - both of Belotin, then child Anton m. to Theresia RABEL
with child Anton (2-17-1835) m. to Magdalena SCHRAMM (7-27-1837 of Jesenik
n. O who produced my ggrandfather Josef. We have had so many false leads on
this Josef - but we have finally gotten documentation that he was born
9-15-1864 in Jesenik - however his parents were not married until 1868 - 4
years later - and the ceremony was in Vienna, Austria. We have not been able
to determine why the delay in marriage since both parties lived in the same
hometown and even shared the same house! So maybe, with your info, Anton
Michalek (the 3rd) was in the service and was not allowed to left before
they could get married - and she had to travel to Vienna in order to do so?
At least it might be another clue - as we 'think' and have been told that
MICHALEK could very well be Jewish origin.

If anyone has any insight into where I couldlook in Vienna - or any other
info - it would be appreciated.

thanks!

~Pam Frierdich-Staley~
Warrenton, MO
http://www.michael-steppig-family-tree.com
http://www.frierdich-staley-familytree.com
Looking for surnames of BANGERT, CINNAUGHT/CANNAUGHT, DIESEL, DILLON,
FIEBER, FIELDS, FRIERDICH/FRIEDRICH, GOLD, HATTER/HOERTER, KIEFER, KRAFT,
MEES/MAES, MENTEL, MICHALEK (MICHAEL/EAL), MITCHELL, PROBST, RABEL, RAPP,
REIS, SCHALLOM, SCHELLHORN, SCHRAMM, SCHUBERT, STALEY, STEPPIG, THOELE,
WEBER

Subject: How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to
marry in the 1860s.
From: Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:51:44 -0700 (PDT)

What happened when a Jewish soldier >from far-flung parts of the Habsburg
Empire [Bohemia, Moravia, Hungary, Galicia etc] stationed in Vienna in the
1860s, wished to marry? This question might be impossible to answer today
unless we unearth some "Rules and Regulations" in a military handbook about
just such a situation.


Re: Czech search engine: Could ROZENBERK be a "sound-alike?" #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

This subject line has now resulted in five postings on a relatively simple
linguistic problem. We should all now know that ROSENBERG and ROZENBERK/
ROZEMBERK are synonymous [although we cannot reproduce the diacriticals
in the Czech spellings].

I am not a Czech-speaker and do not wish to sound repetitive, but before
sending a message to the SIG one should always consult the message archives.
Many of the subjects which a new member may be researching {or alternatively
established members may be starting on a new aspect of their research} may
have been discussed before on our SIG which has been going strong for 8
years. We now have a vast store of data in the message archives.

I recently mentioned that the *Auschwitz suitcase story* was a subject
three Siggers had already tackled. Similarly, the ROSENBERG story could have
been solved by *two mouse clicks* by looking at the Austria-Czech message
archives where we have five postings which appear under a key word search
*ROSENBERG*.

One is entitled: The Jews of Rozmberk [Rosenberg], Bohemia and this
confirms Hanus Grab's reply today.

Using the Austria-Czech message archives, and if you wish to be more
thorough, all the other message archives, definitely enhances research
and results in far more interesting and informative postings. The leads
and head start one obtains >from the archives can be invaluable. One can
refer to previous postings as a reference but extensive re-quotes are
not permitted according to prevailing Jewishgen rules.

Sadly, Yad vashem also provides many clues, and here as a final say on
the subject, let us remember the one ROZENBERK/ROSENBERK listed on this
database:
Name: ROSENBERK Maximilian; DOB: 28/07/1903
Source: Terezinska Pametni Kniha/Theresienstaedter
Gedenkbuch, Terezinska Iniciativa, vol. I-II,
Melantrich, Praha 1995, vol. III Academia Verlag, Prag 2000
1st Transport: Transport Dc >from Praha to Terezin on 09/06/1943
2nd Transport Transport Ds >from Terezin to Auschwitz on 18/12/1943
Victim's status end WWII: Perished

We remember here today, through Max ROSENBERK >from Bohemia, all the
thousands of ROSENBERG of variant spellings - ROIZENBERG, ROZENBERG,
ROSENBERG, ROZEMBERK, ROSENBERK, ROZENBERK who lost their lives in
the holocaust.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: There is a direct link to our SIG message archives at the end
of our Austria-Czech homepage. The archives can be searched by date order
[to look for any postings you may have missed whilst away], keyword
or author.


Re: How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to marry in the 1860s. #austria-czech

Wolf-Erich Eckstein <w.eckstein@...>
 

1. Was this renunciation demanded >from all brides or only Jewish brides?
What exactly were the benefits she renounced - pensions etc?
Yes, >from all, not only Jewish, and yes, pensions.

2. Did Wolf marry in a synagogue in Vienna? If so, his marriage should be
registered at the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde [IKG] and we should be able
to find it.
Yes, he did, and yes, it's registered.

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech re: Czech search engine: Could ROZENBERK be a "sound-alike?" #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

This subject line has now resulted in five postings on a relatively simple
linguistic problem. We should all now know that ROSENBERG and ROZENBERK/
ROZEMBERK are synonymous [although we cannot reproduce the diacriticals
in the Czech spellings].

I am not a Czech-speaker and do not wish to sound repetitive, but before
sending a message to the SIG one should always consult the message archives.
Many of the subjects which a new member may be researching {or alternatively
established members may be starting on a new aspect of their research} may
have been discussed before on our SIG which has been going strong for 8
years. We now have a vast store of data in the message archives.

I recently mentioned that the *Auschwitz suitcase story* was a subject
three Siggers had already tackled. Similarly, the ROSENBERG story could have
been solved by *two mouse clicks* by looking at the Austria-Czech message
archives where we have five postings which appear under a key word search
*ROSENBERG*.

One is entitled: The Jews of Rozmberk [Rosenberg], Bohemia and this
confirms Hanus Grab's reply today.

Using the Austria-Czech message archives, and if you wish to be more
thorough, all the other message archives, definitely enhances research
and results in far more interesting and informative postings. The leads
and head start one obtains >from the archives can be invaluable. One can
refer to previous postings as a reference but extensive re-quotes are
not permitted according to prevailing Jewishgen rules.

Sadly, Yad vashem also provides many clues, and here as a final say on
the subject, let us remember the one ROZENBERK/ROSENBERK listed on this
database:
Name: ROSENBERK Maximilian; DOB: 28/07/1903
Source: Terezinska Pametni Kniha/Theresienstaedter
Gedenkbuch, Terezinska Iniciativa, vol. I-II,
Melantrich, Praha 1995, vol. III Academia Verlag, Prag 2000
1st Transport: Transport Dc >from Praha to Terezin on 09/06/1943
2nd Transport Transport Ds >from Terezin to Auschwitz on 18/12/1943
Victim's status end WWII: Perished

We remember here today, through Max ROSENBERK >from Bohemia, all the
thousands of ROSENBERG of variant spellings - ROIZENBERG, ROZENBERG,
ROSENBERG, ROZEMBERK, ROSENBERK, ROZENBERK who lost their lives in
the holocaust.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: There is a direct link to our SIG message archives at the end
of our Austria-Czech homepage. The archives can be searched by date order
[to look for any postings you may have missed whilst away], keyword
or author.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: How a Jewish soldier in the Austrian army obtains the right to marry in the 1860s. #austria-czech

Wolf-Erich Eckstein <w.eckstein@...>
 

1. Was this renunciation demanded >from all brides or only Jewish brides?
What exactly were the benefits she renounced - pensions etc?
Yes, >from all, not only Jewish, and yes, pensions.

2. Did Wolf marry in a synagogue in Vienna? If so, his marriage should be
registered at the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde [IKG] and we should be able
to find it.
Yes, he did, and yes, it's registered.

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Re: Street Identification or area #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf <martyn@...>
 

Harris Alexander.

In the 1901 census (repeat 1901) he was living at 106 Houndsditch which is
on the borders of the City of London. Gun Street, Spitalfields is about 250
yards >from Houndsditch. It still exists and at that time was in the midst of
the wholesale fruit market, which was most of the Spitalfields area.

Harris Alexander according to the census was 26 years old, was a tailor
working for his own account >from home, was born in Russia Poland (whatever
that might exactly mean) and was a Russian subject. His wife Kitty was born
in Spitalfields and was 24.

Regards

Martyn Woolf


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom RE: Street Identification or area #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf <martyn@...>
 

Harris Alexander.

In the 1901 census (repeat 1901) he was living at 106 Houndsditch which is
on the borders of the City of London. Gun Street, Spitalfields is about 250
yards >from Houndsditch. It still exists and at that time was in the midst of
the wholesale fruit market, which was most of the Spitalfields area.

Harris Alexander according to the census was 26 years old, was a tailor
working for his own account >from home, was born in Russia Poland (whatever
that might exactly mean) and was a Russian subject. His wife Kitty was born
in Spitalfields and was 24.

Regards

Martyn Woolf


Re: Street Identification or area #unitedkingdom

Sandra B Landers
 

Response to finding Harris ALEXANDER:

In the 1910 England Census, Harris ALEXANDER, Age: 26 is living at 106
Houndstitch,County: London, Civil Parish: St. Botolph without Aldgate, Occupation:
Tailor, Born: Russia
Married to: Kathy, Age: 24, Born: London
Source Information: RG13/262
Hope this helps.
Sandy Landers,
Tamarac, Florida
_SBLdezunr@... (mailto:SBLdezunr@...)


Subject: Street Identification or area
From: carltonb <jgen@...>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 17:09:28 -0700
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I believe to have found the naturalization of a great Uncle.

His name was Lazarus Harris Alexanderowitz, which later
became Harris Alexander. His papers are dated in 1903.
I can not confirm any information in the papers. Though it
says he is married no wife is listed. It also does not give
his original nativity.

In his papers it was stated that before 1900 he lived at 31
Gun? Street Spitalfields E. and >from 1900 on he was living
at 106 Houndsditch EC or EG in the city of London.

Can someone help me determine where he was in the 1901 census.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Street Identification or area #unitedkingdom

Sandra B Landers
 

Response to finding Harris ALEXANDER:

In the 1910 England Census, Harris ALEXANDER, Age: 26 is living at 106
Houndstitch,County: London, Civil Parish: St. Botolph without Aldgate, Occupation:
Tailor, Born: Russia
Married to: Kathy, Age: 24, Born: London
Source Information: RG13/262
Hope this helps.
Sandy Landers,
Tamarac, Florida
_SBLdezunr@... (mailto:SBLdezunr@...)


Subject: Street Identification or area
From: carltonb <jgen@...>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 17:09:28 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

I believe to have found the naturalization of a great Uncle.

His name was Lazarus Harris Alexanderowitz, which later
became Harris Alexander. His papers are dated in 1903.
I can not confirm any information in the papers. Though it
says he is married no wife is listed. It also does not give
his original nativity.

In his papers it was stated that before 1900 he lived at 31
Gun? Street Spitalfields E. and >from 1900 on he was living
at 106 Houndsditch EC or EG in the city of London.

Can someone help me determine where he was in the 1901 census.


LONDINSKI #unitedkingdom

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

The surname LONDON was not uncommon among Jews in
Poland as can be seen at JRI-PL. A Russian adaptation
to LONDINSKI should not be a surprise.I would suggest
checking in Dr.Alexander Beider's book the origin of
this name.Unfortunately at the moment I do not have
access to it.
Jacob Rosen
Temporarily in Doha,Qatar


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom LONDINSKI #unitedkingdom

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

The surname LONDON was not uncommon among Jews in
Poland as can be seen at JRI-PL. A Russian adaptation
to LONDINSKI should not be a surprise.I would suggest
checking in Dr.Alexander Beider's book the origin of
this name.Unfortunately at the moment I do not have
access to it.
Jacob Rosen
Temporarily in Doha,Qatar