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SIG Archives #southafrica

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

The Southern Africa mailing list has been archived since its
inception.
from the JewishGen Home page in the Research Category, click
on Databases. In the General category, third item down...Specil
Interest Group Archived Messages
In the drop down box where it says all sigs, hit the down arrow,
select South Africa. Messages are archived up to Jan 1 as of
the moment.
--
Dr Saul Issroff


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica SIG Archives #southafrica

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

The Southern Africa mailing list has been archived since its
inception.
from the JewishGen Home page in the Research Category, click
on Databases. In the General category, third item down...Specil
Interest Group Archived Messages
In the drop down box where it says all sigs, hit the down arrow,
select South Africa. Messages are archived up to Jan 1 as of
the moment.
--
Dr Saul Issroff


Why Post Surnames We Research #general

Maria Krane
 

Hi Genners,
I felt I needed to comment about the posts concerning those of us who
post our laundry lists of names we are researching. I do want to say that I
have all my names in the JGFF. It isn't necessarily true that only the
people researching my surname will have information that is pertinent to me.
I have posted the names I am researching on various occasions and have gotten
responses >from people who are not related to me. This is especially
effective if you are trying to find a relative. I have had two incidents
where I have been able to find relatives of my husband's that we never met,
but were able to hook up with them because another Genner knew who we were
talking about. I have also been able to help other researchers that I know
when I see something that is pertinent to their research. I for one keep all
the information >from the surnames I am researching, even if they are not my
family. I try to send the research I've obtained to the person it belongs to
if I can, and look out for information that may help them. To some people it
may seem like a waste of time, but I have to tell you that these postings are
a good tool, too. Anything that helps another genealogist make connections
to his family tree is valuable.
Regards,
Maria Krane
MariaKrane@aol.com
Florida, USA
researching: KREIN/SHULDINER/OKIN >from Vegeriai and Zagare Lithuania,
ROCHMAN/HOFFMAN/RIMER/KATZ in Salakas, Lithuania, METZGER, KERBEL, LEVIN
in Kovno, Lithuania and RACHMAN/HOFFMAN in Svir, Belarus.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Why Post Surnames We Research #general

Maria Krane
 

Hi Genners,
I felt I needed to comment about the posts concerning those of us who
post our laundry lists of names we are researching. I do want to say that I
have all my names in the JGFF. It isn't necessarily true that only the
people researching my surname will have information that is pertinent to me.
I have posted the names I am researching on various occasions and have gotten
responses >from people who are not related to me. This is especially
effective if you are trying to find a relative. I have had two incidents
where I have been able to find relatives of my husband's that we never met,
but were able to hook up with them because another Genner knew who we were
talking about. I have also been able to help other researchers that I know
when I see something that is pertinent to their research. I for one keep all
the information >from the surnames I am researching, even if they are not my
family. I try to send the research I've obtained to the person it belongs to
if I can, and look out for information that may help them. To some people it
may seem like a waste of time, but I have to tell you that these postings are
a good tool, too. Anything that helps another genealogist make connections
to his family tree is valuable.
Regards,
Maria Krane
MariaKrane@aol.com
Florida, USA
researching: KREIN/SHULDINER/OKIN >from Vegeriai and Zagare Lithuania,
ROCHMAN/HOFFMAN/RIMER/KATZ in Salakas, Lithuania, METZGER, KERBEL, LEVIN
in Kovno, Lithuania and RACHMAN/HOFFMAN in Svir, Belarus.


Re: MARGOLIN in Vilna #belarus

J.S. <jsills@...>
 

There are many records for the 1900 - 1915 period in the Lithuanian
State Archives in Vilna. The name of the street may be Bilshaja
Pohulanka.

Nachman Kataczinsky
Wilmington DE

AIChernoff@aol.com wrote:

My parents shipboard immigration papers indicate a 'nearest relative' as
being a Joseph MARGOLIN in Vilna- Bolshaja Podaukoff, as best I can read
the writing. Are there any records of residents of Vilna in the 1912-
1915 time frame? And is the Bolshaja Podaukoff a street name? Any leads
on my pursuing the matter further would be welcome. TIA
Amoz Chernoff
Potomac, MD
(aichernoff@aol.com)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: MARGOLIN in Vilna #general

J.S. <jsills@...>
 

There are many records for the 1900 - 1915 period in the Lithuanian
State Archives in Vilna. The name of the street may be Bilshaja
Pohulanka.

Nachman Kataczinsky
Wilmington DE

AIChernoff@aol.com wrote:

My parents shipboard immigration papers indicate a 'nearest relative' as
being a Joseph MARGOLIN in Vilna- Bolshaja Podaukoff, as best I can read
the writing. Are there any records of residents of Vilna in the 1912-
1915 time frame? And is the Bolshaja Podaukoff a street name? Any leads
on my pursuing the matter further would be welcome. TIA
Amoz Chernoff
Potomac, MD
(aichernoff@aol.com)


Re: Address in NY in 1915 #general

Barbara Franchi <bf@...>
 

I know that New York City had a census in 1905; perhaps they had one in
1915. I found my grandfather's name in the 1905 one by looking at the
records in the New York Public Library. They are listed by address, so if
you had the address, you would be able to find many of the names of the
people living there. Many people, however, may have been missed, because
they were boarders or not home at the time of the census or the census
taker and the resident had no language in common.

Barbara Franchi (bf@nostalgia.com)

Researching:
PASSEL, GAN (Bobrka, Ukr) FRANK (Kis Varda, Hungary)
GOODMAN, NEWMAN (Novosad, Slovakia) FRANCHI, IACOPPI (Parma, Piacenza,
Italy)

On 1/15/00 4:09 PM AIChernoff@aol.com wrote

My parents' shipboard passenger manifest indicates they were going to
139 Monroe Street in New York in 1915. Is there any way to find out
who lived at that address in that year? Your help would be appreciated.

Amoz Chernoff Potomac, MD (aichernoff@aol.com)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Address in NY in 1915 #general

Barbara Franchi <bf@...>
 

I know that New York City had a census in 1905; perhaps they had one in
1915. I found my grandfather's name in the 1905 one by looking at the
records in the New York Public Library. They are listed by address, so if
you had the address, you would be able to find many of the names of the
people living there. Many people, however, may have been missed, because
they were boarders or not home at the time of the census or the census
taker and the resident had no language in common.

Barbara Franchi (bf@nostalgia.com)

Researching:
PASSEL, GAN (Bobrka, Ukr) FRANK (Kis Varda, Hungary)
GOODMAN, NEWMAN (Novosad, Slovakia) FRANCHI, IACOPPI (Parma, Piacenza,
Italy)

On 1/15/00 4:09 PM AIChernoff@aol.com wrote

My parents' shipboard passenger manifest indicates they were going to
139 Monroe Street in New York in 1915. Is there any way to find out
who lived at that address in that year? Your help would be appreciated.

Amoz Chernoff Potomac, MD (aichernoff@aol.com)


Werner #galicia

barry werner <bmwerner@...>
 

Hello all

I am interested in finding out about the following names;
WERNER Sanok, Lishner-Levi (y?) Sanok, Dresher (Drescher) Lublin Halberstat
(Halber) Lublin (?).

Thanks for all your help.

Barry Werner


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Werner #galicia

barry werner <bmwerner@...>
 

Hello all

I am interested in finding out about the following names;
WERNER Sanok, Lishner-Levi (y?) Sanok, Dresher (Drescher) Lublin Halberstat
(Halber) Lublin (?).

Thanks for all your help.

Barry Werner


Re: Americanized names #galicia

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 1/8/0 10:56:14 PM, Arlene Waters <carthay@linkonline.net>
writes:

<< I need possible Americanized versions. If you have come across these
names and have any suggestions, I would really appreciate them.

1. Bos Tsayon (is this name male or female? is there an Americanized
version?) Sounds like BasTzion, female version of BenTzion. Americanized
version Betty? Bessie?

2. Tseepa (female name - Americanized version?) Tzippa or Tsipora often
Americanized through its Yiddish version Feiga as Fanny? Birdie?

3. Mordechai (male name - Americanized version?) Morton or Max?

4. Mendel (male name - Americanized version?) Morris?

Just guesses. For more authoritative guesses I suggest that you consult the
work done by Warren Blatt, who looked at the Americanized versions of Jewish
names based on study of a large number of tombstones. Or the work of
Professor Jerry Esterson in Israel, who is doing similar studies.

Robert Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com

[MODERATOR note: I think we can conclude that there is no one-to-one
relationship between Hebrew/Yiddish/English names. Educated guesses are
the best anyone can do and many have been given.
This thread is now closed.]


Where's Cuxhaven #general

SelmaN@...
 

The S.S. "Araguaya" of the Royal Mail Steam Packet Co. (line)
left "Cuxhaven" on December 6, 1922, and arrived in New York on
December 19, 1922 (according to the manifest). According to
Morton Allen, the ship left >from Hamburg. Does anyone know
where and what Cuxhaven is?
Thanks!
Selma Neubauer
Philadelphia, PA USA
SelmaN@aol.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Americanized names #galicia

ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 1/8/0 10:56:14 PM, Arlene Waters <carthay@linkonline.net>
writes:

<< I need possible Americanized versions. If you have come across these
names and have any suggestions, I would really appreciate them.

1. Bos Tsayon (is this name male or female? is there an Americanized
version?) Sounds like BasTzion, female version of BenTzion. Americanized
version Betty? Bessie?

2. Tseepa (female name - Americanized version?) Tzippa or Tsipora often
Americanized through its Yiddish version Feiga as Fanny? Birdie?

3. Mordechai (male name - Americanized version?) Morton or Max?

4. Mendel (male name - Americanized version?) Morris?

Just guesses. For more authoritative guesses I suggest that you consult the
work done by Warren Blatt, who looked at the Americanized versions of Jewish
names based on study of a large number of tombstones. Or the work of
Professor Jerry Esterson in Israel, who is doing similar studies.

Robert Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com

[MODERATOR note: I think we can conclude that there is no one-to-one
relationship between Hebrew/Yiddish/English names. Educated guesses are
the best anyone can do and many have been given.
This thread is now closed.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where's Cuxhaven #general

SelmaN@...
 

The S.S. "Araguaya" of the Royal Mail Steam Packet Co. (line)
left "Cuxhaven" on December 6, 1922, and arrived in New York on
December 19, 1922 (according to the manifest). According to
Morton Allen, the ship left >from Hamburg. Does anyone know
where and what Cuxhaven is?
Thanks!
Selma Neubauer
Philadelphia, PA USA
SelmaN@aol.com


Re: Tomaszow - Poland. LOEWY #general

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

In a recent message Jonathon Borchard asked if there were any records on
Tomaszow, Poland

I have recently discovered that my GGGGGrandmother called LOEWY
(first name not known) died in Tomaszow, Poland October 18, 1836.
Does anyone know if there is a list of deaths for this town >from this
period??

Where can I find out about the town - I don't know anything about it at
all!!

The fact is there are two Tomaszow's in Poland. One is called Tomaszow
Mazowiecki and was in Piotrokow Gubernia and the other is called Tomaszow
Lubelski and was in Lublin Gubernia. Jewish Records Indexing-Poland has
Shtetl CO-OPs for both of these towns. The JRI-Poland database contains
data >from Tomaszow Mazowiecki for the year in question on the database and
it is recommended that the database be checked for a match
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl The source of this data is >from the LDS
microfilmed vital records. However, we are currently working on ordering
from the Piotrokow Polish State Archives the Tomaszow Mazowiecki vital
records >from the years that were not microfilmed by the Mormons. Stay
tuned for more information.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY
Tomaszow Mazowiecki
Shtet CO-OP Coordinator
JRI-Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Tomaszow - Poland. LOEWY #general

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

In a recent message Jonathon Borchard asked if there were any records on
Tomaszow, Poland

I have recently discovered that my GGGGGrandmother called LOEWY
(first name not known) died in Tomaszow, Poland October 18, 1836.
Does anyone know if there is a list of deaths for this town >from this
period??

Where can I find out about the town - I don't know anything about it at
all!!

The fact is there are two Tomaszow's in Poland. One is called Tomaszow
Mazowiecki and was in Piotrokow Gubernia and the other is called Tomaszow
Lubelski and was in Lublin Gubernia. Jewish Records Indexing-Poland has
Shtetl CO-OPs for both of these towns. The JRI-Poland database contains
data >from Tomaszow Mazowiecki for the year in question on the database and
it is recommended that the database be checked for a match
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl The source of this data is >from the LDS
microfilmed vital records. However, we are currently working on ordering
from the Piotrokow Polish State Archives the Tomaszow Mazowiecki vital
records >from the years that were not microfilmed by the Mormons. Stay
tuned for more information.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY
Tomaszow Mazowiecki
Shtet CO-OP Coordinator
JRI-Poland


Re: Fink in Sanok #galicia

Debbie Raff <seraff@...>
 

Several people have requested look-ups >from my Sanok book. Most have been
disappointed, including me, I might add! In checking for the surname FINK,
I may have found an interesting link between 2 Galicia newsgroup members,
and thought I would share. :-) [see FINK Jankiel in the information below]

Congrats! Yup, I found FINKs! Not everyone, who has asked me to check has
been so lucky. Even I can't locate any of my family names in this book.

FINK Berl
FINK Ernest
FINK Jakub
FINK Jankiel (there is a group picture on one of the pages with his name.
If the picture relates to the text above it than Jankiel FINK knew Eisig and
Ichel HERZIG(someone in this group had requested information on HERZIGs in
Sanok a couple of days ago)! Can you believe this! The caption begins
"Rada Miejska z r. 1868..." Using my trusty Polish dictionary, it looks
like this is the Sanok Town Council of 1868. The text uses the year 1867,
so maybe Jankiel is not in the picture. In any case, this is an outdoor
picture and the men all look rather dapper in their dress. The quality of
the photo is poor, which won't help with identification.

So, are you excited?
Debbie RAFF
California


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Fink in Sanok #galicia

Debbie Raff <seraff@...>
 

Several people have requested look-ups >from my Sanok book. Most have been
disappointed, including me, I might add! In checking for the surname FINK,
I may have found an interesting link between 2 Galicia newsgroup members,
and thought I would share. :-) [see FINK Jankiel in the information below]

Congrats! Yup, I found FINKs! Not everyone, who has asked me to check has
been so lucky. Even I can't locate any of my family names in this book.

FINK Berl
FINK Ernest
FINK Jakub
FINK Jankiel (there is a group picture on one of the pages with his name.
If the picture relates to the text above it than Jankiel FINK knew Eisig and
Ichel HERZIG(someone in this group had requested information on HERZIGs in
Sanok a couple of days ago)! Can you believe this! The caption begins
"Rada Miejska z r. 1868..." Using my trusty Polish dictionary, it looks
like this is the Sanok Town Council of 1868. The text uses the year 1867,
so maybe Jankiel is not in the picture. In any case, this is an outdoor
picture and the men all look rather dapper in their dress. The quality of
the photo is poor, which won't help with identification.

So, are you excited?
Debbie RAFF
California


Re: Lodz Indices Provide Breakthroughs! #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated 1/15/2000 10:25:02 PM EST, abc@netspace.net.au,
Lin Braun writes:

Hello
First, thank you to all the people who have made this happen!!!
Second, I have a real dumb question, I have gone to these lists and found
the relevant names but then I can't seem to be able to access any specific
info. i.e. who married, date of marriage etc. How do I go about getting
this
info?? Thank you very much in advance.
Lin Braun
searching MARKOWITZ,TEMPELHOFF
Lin:

As stated in the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland FAQ (Frequently
Asked Questions):

The goal of JRI-Poland is to help researchers to locate clues and aid
their research by "casting a wide net" into the records of the Jews of
Poland. A search of the JRI-Poland database is only a FIRST STEP
to obtaining additional family information. It is not intended to replace
a search of the actual vital records, but to serve as a finding aid to
help
focus a researcher on areas in which his ancestors might have lived
in 19th century Poland.

I suggest that a review of the FAQ be one of the first pages new researchers
visit. The FAQ is linked at the top of the JRI-Poland home page.

We appreciate your expression of thanks. Of course, there is another
place on the JRI-Poland web site to let you really show your appreciation
and help us continue the giant task we have taken on!

Click on the box "Support the Project" on the home page.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records indexing - Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Lodz Indices Provide Breakthroughs! #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated 1/15/2000 10:25:02 PM EST, abc@netspace.net.au,
Lin Braun writes:

Hello
First, thank you to all the people who have made this happen!!!
Second, I have a real dumb question, I have gone to these lists and found
the relevant names but then I can't seem to be able to access any specific
info. i.e. who married, date of marriage etc. How do I go about getting
this
info?? Thank you very much in advance.
Lin Braun
searching MARKOWITZ,TEMPELHOFF
Lin:

As stated in the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland FAQ (Frequently
Asked Questions):

The goal of JRI-Poland is to help researchers to locate clues and aid
their research by "casting a wide net" into the records of the Jews of
Poland. A search of the JRI-Poland database is only a FIRST STEP
to obtaining additional family information. It is not intended to replace
a search of the actual vital records, but to serve as a finding aid to
help
focus a researcher on areas in which his ancestors might have lived
in 19th century Poland.

I suggest that a review of the FAQ be one of the first pages new researchers
visit. The FAQ is linked at the top of the JRI-Poland home page.

We appreciate your expression of thanks. Of course, there is another
place on the JRI-Poland web site to let you really show your appreciation
and help us continue the giant task we have taken on!

Click on the box "Support the Project" on the home page.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records indexing - Poland